In the main quest line of oblivion. when you get to the "paradise", Mankar Camoran tells you that Tamriel is just another Deadric realm.. But you never get the answar.. is that true? what do you think?

I think that it could be true (an easteregg from Bethesda) and that you actually fights for the wrong guys.
But on the other hand, I think that we would hear more about it in the game.

You know, where people know the answer.

I know the answer.

But, people on this sub forum don't.

Maybe you should ask somewhere else.

You know, where people know the answer.

In the main quest line of oblivion. when you get to the "paradise", Mankar Camoran tells you that Tamriel is just another Deadric realm.. But you never get the answar.. is that true? what do you think?

In a sense, yes it is, but in my opinion there are enough fundamental differences that it shouldn't be called one...

one COULD argue that mundus/Nirn was the *First* "Daedric Realm"--- With all the others being created from cosmic leftovers...... But, on the flipside, the other daedric realms are metaphysically the equivalent of oranges to apples, when compared to Mundus.

Also in all fairness, there's enough evidence to support the Mankar's claims that I was happy that it went in. The idea really flips the idea of Tamriel on its head.

Imagine the Oblivion realm of Attribution's Share, for example, with eight powerful daedra (one of which is Boethiah) wielding divine power over their realm, and all their subjects bound to the whims of that power; now imagine it under an ur-theology and creation myth(s) as complicated as anything on Tamriel, where the myriad mortals of Nirn were, to the denizens of the Eight Divines of Attribution's Share, in fact, "daedra".

This realm would be surrounded by the Void, just like Tamriel, in turn surrounded by Aetherius, and who's to say that the big hole known as the Sun doesn't hit their shores, as well?

Lorkhan the Padomaic could be exactly what the Mankar says he is: the dead Lord of a lost daedric realm whose "gods" are powerful Liars.

one COULD argue that mundus/Nirn was the *First* "Daedric Realm"--- With all the others being created from cosmic leftovers...... But, on the flipside, the other daedric realms are metaphysically the equivalent of oranges to apples, when compared to Mundus.

@Prowler: Can't you still see a night sky in Mehrunes' pocket-realms or in the Shivering Isles?

It's a pretty good question; after all, the mortal Grummites were said to be the original inhabitants of the Shivering Isles. But if it was a Daedric realm, then why are there no Daedra for which Mundus is their home realm? Or do they merely reside in Akavir? So many questions unanswered...

But if it was a Daedric realm, then why are there no Daedra for which Mundus is their home realm?

Er. That's us, dude.

But why do men and mer not retain their memories of past lives when they reincarnate?

Because as I said, Nirn and the Daedric realms are fundamentally different... or maybe you could somehow attribute it to this realm's Prince being dead (some cool memory-tied-to-princes-oversoul-and-since-Lorkhan-is-dead-ppl-lose-memory type thingy)...

But Daedra cannot die. Sure, his heart survived, but when daedra are banished, their hearts remain in their lifeless bodies.

But why do men and mer not retain their memories of past lives when they reincarnate?

They can die alright. I wouldn't know how I'd go about killing or soul trapping them if they couldn't.

But Daedra cannot die. Sure, his heart survived, but when daedra are banished, their hearts remain in their lifeless bodies.

The biggest difference between mortals and Daedra is the way they are immortal.

Mundus is something else... It was made by Aedra, and is made of them and their energies.

The problem with this is that it surmounts to saying "They're immortal, just in different ways", and then the description of how humans are immortal containing the definition of what makes them mortal. You can anolyze the mortal condition on Nirn and say "well, they're immortal in this way", but in the end 'that way' doesn't make them any less of a mortal...

The only real difference between the Aedra and the Daedra is that the Aedra made Mundus and the Daedra didn't. Well that and the Aedra seem to be more alligned to Anu. Both are the et'Ada or Original Spirits.
The point was sorta that mortality on Nirn isn't quite the same as mortality here on Earth. At least if you don't take reincarnation into account in which case both mortals and Daedra are mortal, except that the Daedra know everything about their past live.