[Becky Palmer]

TES4Edit allows for selecting a group of placed objects and toggling VWD.

Cool thanks I'll try that

[Ally Chimienti]

Those Morrowind pics look great! :clap: Gnisis here I come. :twirl:

[Laura Mclean]

I started playing around with your heightmaps this evening, starting with the Hammerfell High Rock map. Very impressive. This really opens up possibilities for things down the road.

I noticed one minor thing I figured I should report. Immediately to the west of a portion of the High Rock coast there is a section of the sea where the water is missing. It's a large rectangular area that's clearly visible from land. I'm assuming the water height just wasn't set correctly in these cells.

When standing at the tree located in cell -128, 51, position -519752, 211096, 6779, and looking west, the area is visible.

[candice keenan]

I started playing around with your heightmaps this evening, starting with the Hammerfell High Rock map. Very impressive. This really opens up possibilities for things down the road.

I noticed one minor thing I figured I should report. Immediately to the west of a portion of the High Rock coast there is a section of the sea where the water is missing. It's a large rectangular area that's clearly visible from land. I'm assuming the water height just wasn't set correctly in these cells.

When standing at the tree located in cell -128, 51, position -519752, 211096, 6779, and looking west, the area is visible.

thx for reporting

in this version the surrounding seas have not been edited yet so there will be probably cells having a wrong water height

I am working on a major update of all maps ...will fix this as well

cheers

[SaVino GοΜ]

thx for reporting

in this version the surrounding seas have not been edited yet so there will be probably cells having a wrong water height

I am working on a major update of all maps ...will fix this as well

cheers

Will you create the LOD trees and etc.? For some reason, now that I moved my Oblivion installation out of Programs, LOD Gen will not work.

Nice job to all of the recent stuff.

[Marta Wolko]

Figured I would point something funky out too. There's a land tear between Valenwood and Elseweyr at -3, -46 and -2, -47.

[aisha jamil]

Will you create the LOD trees and etc.? For some reason, now that I moved my Oblivion installation out of Programs, LOD Gen will not work.

Nice job to all of the recent stuff.

no I would have to generate new lod data for every update or new mod adding or editing lod objects

Figured I would point something funky out too. There's a land tear between Valenwood and Elseweyr at -3, -46 and -2, -47.

checked ingame and did not find any problem -3 -46 is exactly on the new road from Corinthe to Senchal/Thorval...probably you haven't updated all files properly ?

cheers

[JESSE]

UPDATE !

first of all I would like to show you the current version of my complete tamriel heightmap including all provinces and nearly all islands now as for example Solstheim,

Telvanni Islands, Topal Island etc etc...

the complete map has a total of 12 x 9 quads (118 quads), a map seize of 12288 x 9248 and is divided into 12 different esps and patches at the moment....


http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27235-1-1278848786.jpg


what I plan to do is .. improving the last parts ( mainly eastern Morrowind)... then export the complete map ( 118 raw files ) and improve the single raw files using

GEO Control 2 :drool: which is probably the best avaible terrain editing programm on this planet and which I have it on my computer now :woot:

finally I will try to import and merge everything back into ONE file....means the complete Tamriel heightmap as one esp...

I know this will probably mess up some of the work done already...but will make everything much easier in the future....

my thoughts are... using just one heightmap as a master plus one esp for every province (where all the region and other data will go)

modders will be able to merge their stuff into this province esps or use them as master files together with the tamriel heightmap....


thoughts ????


onra

[kirsty joanne hines]

Impressive... Very impressive, Onra! :foodndrink: Maybe you can start playing the game in 2016 now!

I know it's more convenient for future projects. But... What will this mean for the Senchal region? I really don't hope I have to start all over again because the heightmap is moved to the uber master esp. :huh:

[DarkGypsy]

Impressive... Very impressive, Onra! :foodndrink: Maybe you can start playing the game in 2016 now!

I know it's more convenient for future projects. But... What will this mean for the Senchal region? I really don't hope I have to start all over again because the heightmap is moved to the uber master esp. :huh:

It'll mean a bit of technical fiddling in TES4Edit to transfer data around, such as comparing each old land record with the new to drag your edits across.
Might help to create a child worldspace of the current Tamriel worldspace, copy/paste in place all your placed objects into it, then break the parent worldspace link, swap Heightmap ESPs, recreate the parent worldspace link, and copy back to Tamriel worldspace your objects. That would probably work. Alternatively, set all your placed objects to persistent, swap Heightmap ESPs, then change them back to non-persistent - persistent objects won't care if the cell Form IDs change.

[Lizzie]

UPDATE !

first of all I would like to show you the current version of my complete tamriel heightmap including all provinces and nearly all islands now as for example Solstheim,

Telvanni Islands, Topal Island etc etc...

the complete map has a total of 12 x 9 quads (118 quads), a map seize of 12288 x 9248 and is divided into 12 different esps and patches at the moment....


http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27235-1-1278848786.jpg


what I plan to do is .. improving the last parts ( mainly eastern Morrowind)... then export the complete map ( 118 raw files ) and improve the single raw files using

GEO Control 2 :drool: which is probably the best avaible terrain editing programm on this planet and which I have it on my computer now :woot:

finally I will try to import and merge everything back into ONE file....means the complete Tamriel heightmap as one esp...

I know this will probably mess up some of the work done already...but will make everything much easier in the future....

my thoughts are... using just one heightmap as a master plus one esp for every province (where all the region and other data will go)

modders will be able to merge their stuff into this province esps or use them as master files together with the tamriel heightmap....


thoughts ????


onra

WOW!!! nice work Onra! cant wait for a release that looks outstanding!

[Deon Knight]

Wow, oh my! That truly is Tamriel. One big master file for the heightmap seems like a good idea. It's gonna need lots of GB, though...

[Sabrina Schwarz]

Looks great onra! And I like the idea of a single esp with all height data in it, and then individual province esps.

[Marion Geneste]

UPDATE !

first of all I would like to show you the current version of my complete tamriel heightmap including all provinces and nearly all islands now as for example Solstheim,

Telvanni Islands, Topal Island etc etc...

the complete map has a total of 12 x 9 quads (118 quads), a map seize of 12288 x 9248 and is divided into 12 different esps and patches at the moment....


http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27235-1-1278848786.jpg


what I plan to do is .. improving the last parts ( mainly eastern Morrowind)... then export the complete map ( 118 raw files ) and improve the single raw files using

GEO Control 2 :drool: which is probably the best avaible terrain editing programm on this planet and which I have it on my computer now :woot:

finally I will try to import and merge everything back into ONE file....means the complete Tamriel heightmap as one esp...

I know this will probably mess up some of the work done already...but will make everything much easier in the future....

my thoughts are... using just one heightmap as a master plus one esp for every province (where all the region and other data will go)

modders will be able to merge their stuff into this province esps or use them as master files together with the tamriel heightmap....


thoughts ????


onra

Awesome onra.

I can't wait till this is all completed.

[Karl harris]

UPDATE !

first of all I would like to show you the current version of my complete tamriel heightmap including all provinces and nearly all islands now as for example Solstheim,

Telvanni Islands, Topal Island etc etc...

the complete map has a total of 12 x 9 quads (118 quads), a map seize of 12288 x 9248 and is divided into 12 different esps and patches at the moment....


http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27235-1-1278848786.jpg


what I plan to do is .. improving the last parts ( mainly eastern Morrowind)... then export the complete map ( 118 raw files ) and improve the single raw files using

GEO Control 2 :drool: which is probably the best avaible terrain editing programm on this planet and which I have it on my computer now :woot:

finally I will try to import and merge everything back into ONE file....means the complete Tamriel heightmap as one esp...

I know this will probably mess up some of the work done already...but will make everything much easier in the future....

my thoughts are... using just one heightmap as a master plus one esp for every province (where all the region and other data will go)

modders will be able to merge their stuff into this province esps or use them as master files together with the tamriel heightmap....


thoughts ????


onra

Choice mate way to go,.. thank you for all your hard work


Here a (maybe thick ) thought

Is it at all possible to copy the ne Highmap data into the current province esps like Summerset,.. etc that way the likes of StarX maybe just have a lot of adjustments to suit new land levels etc
and still be able to use the current master esp along with the new highmap?

BTW

When can I get my hands on a TESAnnwyn image to start painting a map,.. no pressure mate lol

[John N]

Here a (maybe thick ) thought

Is it at all possible to copy the ne Highmap data into the current province esps like Summerset,.. etc that way the likes of StarX maybe just have a lot of adjustments to suit new land levels etc
and still be able to use the current master esp along with the new highmap?

The problem is the Form IDs. Every single entity in an ESP has a unique Form ID within that ESP - but it's not unique to any other ESP (the first two characters in the Form ID are dynamic, and change depending upon your load order, but the rest of the Form ID could be identical to one in another ESP). When you merge ESPs together, any matching Form ID found in both ESPs causes a conflict problem, which is resolved by the ID of one being changed to a new ID in the resulting merge. Now if a mod (such as StarX's) places objects into a cell created by a master ESP from Tamriel Heightmaps, when Onra takes the Tamriel Heightmaps ESPs and merges them all together, there's a fair chance that the Form ID for the cell(s) used by the dependant mod will change. This will then break the other mod, as only persistent-placed objects will appear in-game (the non-persistent objects having been placed in a cell whose Form ID no longer exists).

Now I've already suggested two possible ways for StarX to avoid problems, but there's also a couple of things Onra could do at his end to avoid problems instead.
1) When merging, Onra can ensure that the ESP StarX is dependant on is highest priority, so that ESP's Form IDs will be retained and the IDs from any other ESP will be changed.
Problem here is that StarX isn't the only modder using Tamriel Heightmaps, other modders are using different Heightmap ESPs - they cannot ALL be set to highest priority.
2) Before merging, each modder using a Heightmap can send their ESP (no resources needed, just the ESP) to Onra (and stop working on their mod briefly). Onra can then use TES4Edit to fix the Form ID range in each Heightmap ESP to a unique range, while also having everyone else's ESP loaded into TES4Edit (so that they will be updated to match the new Form ID range for the cells from the Heightmaps ESPs). Once this is done, Onra can merge the Heightmaps together and release (removing the old separate ESPs from public access) and send back each modder's updated ESPs for them to resume working on (using the newly merged single Heightmap ESP & separate Region-related ESPs).
Problem here is ensuring that Onra receives the ESP(s) from every modder currently working dependant on the Tamriel Heightmap ESPs.

Option two is the best route, in my opinion - it's probably the easiest (especially for everyone who isn't Onra, since he'd be the one doing all the work) and it's certainly the tidiest.
But if Onra is unable to or not willing to do either of these options, it will be down to the modders such as StarX to try what I suggested earlier once the new merged Heightmap ESP is released.

[^~LIL B0NE5~^]

Well I'd definitely be willing to send my esp ro Onra if he is willing ot do the work

Saves me messing around in TES4Edit

[Batricia Alele]

Edit: Very delayed double post.

[Maria Leon]

Well I'd definitely be willing to send my esp ro Onra if he is willing ot do the work

Saves me messing around in TES4Edit

Same here. I will probably screw things up bigtime! :bonk:

I have a nice info update for Senchal: Grond (from TesAlliance) made some nice progress on the Jurad City Tileset interiors! The picture he showed was awesome. It's still a WIP, so I can't show any pictures yet, just thought it was some good info for peeps that want to use Jurad City houses for their mod in the future.

[Eire Charlotta]

hey everybody...

just want to tell you that Valenwood and Elsweyr ( and probably Summerset) will not be "merged" into the complete tamriel map....we will keep this (as it is now) for different reasons...first of all a complete tamriel map including Valenwood and Elsweyr would not be compatible with Ilianas mod. Also the Valenwood Elsweyr map is so far the best developed file including full detailed regions new roads and last but not least with Star X Senchal we have a very promising project close to a playable version....
For the other provinces I will try to create one complete heightmap as well as esps for every single province containing region data etc

cheers

[Samantha Wood]

Wondering if it will be possible for other region modders to create patches/merges/fixes to work with your heightmaps - thinking of what Vorians wrote above.

so wish this approach was the way it started back 3-4 years ago.

I appreciate less esp - thanks.

[maddison]

Kia Ora


display name is already in use

Thank you very much for that realy enlightening wee tut mate, it exsplains a lot of the issues I had way back playing around with merging mods, tryig to add
somebody's race or weapons/armor mods to my player house, would have been better to esmify then looking back at it.

I did say I was greener n hemp lol and that wee write up helped me heaps

Thanks again

[Eric Hayes]

wohoo

short progress news ...

as stated before Valenwood, Elsweyr and Summerset will not be changed or remade...all other provinces ( Hammerfell, High Rock, Skyrim, Morrowind

and Black Marsh) will be completely overhauled and finally go in one master heightmap ....

landmasses have been finished and I am currently improving the whole thing using Geo Control 2 ..

here two screenies I made during testing today, showing the new erosion and landscape filtering ....

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27235-1-1279058114.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27235-2-1279058114.jpg

cheers

[Ludivine Poussineau]

wohoo

short progress news ...

as stated before Valenwood, Elsweyr and Summerset will not be changed or remade...all other provinces ( Hammerfell, High Rock, Skyrim, Morrowind

and Black Marsh) will be completely overhauled and finally go in one master heightmap ....

landmasses have been finished and I am currently improving the whole thing using Geo Control 2 ..

here two screenies I made during testing today, showing the new erosion and landscape filtering ....

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27235-1-1279058114.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27235-2-1279058114.jpg

cheers

:drool:

Can... can I buy you dinner sometime? :wub:

[Project]

wohoo

short progress news ...

as stated before Valenwood, Elsweyr and Summerset will not be changed or remade...all other provinces ( Hammerfell, High Rock, Skyrim, Morrowind

and Black Marsh) will be completely overhauled and finally go in one master heightmap ....

landmasses have been finished and I am currently improving the whole thing using Geo Control 2 ..

here two screenies I made during testing today, showing the new erosion and landscape filtering ....

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27235-1-1279058114.jpg

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27235-2-1279058114.jpg

cheers

Wow!

I'm so going to clean up my Oblivion files in preparation for this.

Onra you're awesome! :bowdown: