I really like the thought of a couple big nasty hostile tanks. Not dumb tanks like most video game tanks have become, but hard tanks that even when you are maxed out, and have good weapons it will still take good tactics to destroy.

Im not sure what model tank would have been in fo world pre war, but the U.S. could not have scrapped all of their tanks in 10 years before the war.

The Boomers getting the B-29 up on bio-fuel opened up a can of worms to me. A lot of groups we have see, and ones we have not would be able to restore a few pre war tanks IMO.


The new engine ( I would hope ) won t have half of the stuff in the game half way under the ground.

What are your thoughts on 2 tanks in a fo game?

What model would it be?

What should its stats be?

What should damage it, and how much damage should each weapon type cause to it?


Tank Talk......

Well, we've not see anything that says the NCR don't have tanks. They just don't have them in Vegas.

My theory on why.

Because Power armor was replacing the tanks in most conflicts, they didn't bother with nuclear cells for tanks plus a nuclear powered tank would wipe out it's own side if it was destroyed. So they probably still ran on conventional fuels - which were in short supply anyway.

So more tanks phased out to preserve fuel for the remainder.

Now say the NCR have some tanks. They aren't going to want to waste precious fuels having them drive long distances, so they'd have them ferried around via trains (Possibly a major reason the NCR are restoring the railroad) that way fuel is conserved and they don't have to worry about a tank breaking down miles from any NCR depot.

In fact, tanks are often ferried long distances on trains in our world. So it's nothing out of the ordinary.

SInce the railroad is still out of action and with the Powder Gangers and Legion giving the NCR problems with restoring it, they haven't been able to move tanks to the front (or even major supplies hence the under equipped nature of most NCR units)

Entirely possible too that politics have kept the tank company (or companies) close to the NCR Capital as a show of force for the citizenry reguardless of the fact the front is several states from the capital. (Again real life example: During WW2 the Soviets kept several tank companies in Moscow as a show of Soviet might despite the German army never getting anywhere close. Granted most tof those tanks were multi-turret giants that were useful only for parades and useless in battle)

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M48 Patton

HP:2500
DT:200
DAM:Cannon:300
50.cal:60
100% Resistance against:Small arms,Energy weapons(Except Guass),HE missles,Fat man(No armor penetration,NBC over pressure) and Anything unarmed.
Can only be destroyed by taking out its weak spots:Main gun,Coxial gun,Treads And Engine.
Immune to damage anywhere else.
A Tanks a Tank!

That would be a hardass tank. I LOVE IT!!!!!

That would be an overpowered tank. It's a 1940's tank and it's immune to a lot of 2070's-and-beyond weapons? I mean, of course immune to small arms (it is anyways, if it has a DT of 200) but energy weapons, explosives, etc? It can withstand a nuke? Hardass WW2 tank, I say.

ah, but it would not be a 1940's tank. It would be a 2070's tank. It would just look like it's from the 1940's.

It would have had to have been heavily altered in the 137 years after WWII.

I mean, they had lazers and giant communist-hating robots.

Acutally it was devolped to fight in a nuclear enviroment during the start of the cold war.Energy weapons cant pierce metal armor,they cant pierce a tank!

Plasma melt through metal (like the industry plasma cutting tool), and laser is supposed to cut a person in half in a split second (not turning him into a tiny pile of ash, look at Fallout 1 and 2.)

Plasma doesnt last long enough to cause a reaction and laser,well your comparing a tiny,fleshy human to a 50 ton,120mm armored Tank!

I am comparing weapon technology too futuristic for our time to a tank from 1953.

Why will it be immune to missiles? "Immune to damage anywhere else than guns, treads and engine". So basically, we can just render it immobile and without weapon, but what about the crew? Can't we kill them with like, I dunno, electrical weapons or intense heat?

I think plasma based weapons should do some damage to it.

Like Urban plasma rifle -12hp per round
Plasma caster -35hp per round.


It would be a major discussion on how these tanks evolved. In 2060 it would look like a M-48 Patton, but would have to be upgraded as everything else is. It would be big think tank time for the devs.

If it was some weak peice of crap like those ones in OA, then they may as well not even have them. I want to have to do hit and runs, then have it chase me. Hopefully there would be places to get away.

Immune to HE missiles,And the tank would start to burn if you take out the engine.

I don't like the idea of tanks, because it screws over some characters. What if you're an Unarmed or Melee character? What are you going to do, run at it and punch the barrel off? The enemy you guys have described would be utterly unbeatable for such a character.
Tanks as part of a cinematic event (a la Liberty Prime massacring Enclave vertibirds) or just lying around ruined would be fine, but not as a player enemy that's immune to everything except Tesla Cannons and Plasma Casters.

I also have a hard time believing that tanks could resist energy weapons; I'm convinced that's another reason they're obsolete in the Fallout universe. Power-armored troopers are actually able to take cover from energy weapons fire and can blow a tank apart with them in seconds. Plasma is , as mentioned, an industrial cutting tool adapted for military purposes; it'll go through armor like butter.

Without a doubt plasma should have some effect on it depending how advanced the armor became. There has never been much talk of them, because there have not been any. Regular wwll armor plasma and laser would have a huge effect. With some kind of future fo armor laser may do nothing, but I think plasma would always have some effect.


As for the charecter builds. I ve never built a melee guy that can t use ranged weapons and explosives at least a little. When they see the tank, I guess its time to go find a telsa cannon lol. They are pretty nasty no matter what your stats are.

I guarantee you they have tanks. They couldn't have gotten rid of all the tanks they had that's practically impossible.

Fallout Tactics had vehicles, and a tank. So yah....

Have it have damage resistance similar to Power Armor in the old games, resistant to just about everything except Heavy Caliber Guns, Gauss Rifles, Explosives, and Energy Weapons.

How about a modified one? Oh and Fallout diverges from our timeline when WW2 ends.

Indeed.
What I think, if there would be a tank in-game, is that you should be able to take it out with more than the combative skills. Like maybe with Science, you can hack its computer or something, shut the thing down or at least partially.
Maybe there could be a way to get the hatch open, jump in there and beat the crew to death if you are melee/unarmed. Maybe with a high strength (Hercules' Bigger Cousin) you just rip the hatch open, haha!
(and if you have high Speech, you can talk the tank from shooting you, hahaha!)

But anyways, I'd just say that the tank would be in cinematics, or they could just stand at the base of NCR with the reason that maybe the fuel supply lines get raided all the time, which has rendered the tank a stationary cannon. Rather that, than it being an enemy that is immune to most of all damage in the game.

How heavy you talking?

Browning M2 heavy.

There are none...

There was in Tactics, there were tanks in Tactics as well.

Tanks would be very fun, though they should be susceptible to plasma. As it would eat through the armor, like it should with power armor.