Technically the nerevarine could be the dragonborn...

Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:18 am

He doesn't age and we don't know what happened to him after he left for akavir. Just a random thought.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:29 pm

Never aging is never part of being Dragonborn, plus the Nerevarine is the reincarnation of Nerevar which means the Nevevarine has the soul of a CHIMER (aka early dark elf), not a dragon!
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:38 am

Never aging is never part of being Dragonborn, plus the Nerevarine is the reincarnation of Nerevar which means the Nevevarine has the soul of a CHIMER (aka early dark elf), not a dragon!

I'm pretty sure being a dragonborn just means he was given the blood of a dragon by akatosh, not that he really has a dragon soul. I could be wrong though.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:31 pm

I'm pretty sure being a dragonborn just means he was given the blood of a dragon by akatosh, not that he really has a dragon soul. I could be wrong though.

Nope he's got the SOUL of a Dragon.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:20 am

but it could be possible for the Nevarar to have been dragonborn thus his reincarnation would also be dragonborn.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:34 pm

It was also in the prophecy that he was "dragon-born and farstar marked".

A lot of people, and it probobly was since Skyrm was so far off, saw that as saying they were from Imperial lands. However, there is nothng contradicting it. Nerevar Indoril could have been dragonborn. Its also left up in the air if the Nerevarine even actually IS the reincarnation of Nerevar, and not just someone who fits the prophecy closely enough to be used by Azura.

I roleplay that my Nerevarine is the Dovahkiin, but may or may not have been Nerevar.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:19 pm

Wasn't the Septim bloodline the only Dragonborn line? Wan't the pack between man and god essentially eneded at the end of Oblivion. Iff that is true then that means at that point there wasn't a Dragonborn? And with the return of the Dragonborn doesn't that mean Akatosh has once again accepted to protect the mortals of Nirn? Once Alduin returned so did the Dragonborn, and essentially, Akatosh. If I'm right (and I'm probably not), that means the Nervarine couldn't be the Dovahkiin.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:31 pm

From what was shown of previous dragonborns known dragonborns they always have a big impact on the events of tamerial. It could be possible any of the previous main characters were dragonborn but did not realize it due to the fact that no dragons were around. They always seem to suggest you were selected by the gods.

Wasn't the Septim bloodline the only Dragonborn line? Wan't the pack between man and god essentially eneded at the end of Oblivion. Iff that is true then that means at that point there wasn't a Dragonborn? And with the return of the Dragonborn doesn't that mean Akatosh has once again accepted to protect the mortals of Nirn? Once Alduin returned so did the Dragonborn, and essentially, Akatosh. If I'm right (and I'm probably not), that means the Nervarine couldn't be the Dovahkiin.

no, it was stated that no one is sure about the number of dragonborns and if any existed at the same time. The septiems are just the most famous since they united tamerial under a single empire.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:29 pm

Never aging is never part of being Dragonborn, plus the Nerevarine is the reincarnation of Nerevar which means the Nevevarine has the soul of a CHIMER (aka early dark elf), not a dragon!

Why can't a Chimer be a Dragonborn?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:52 pm

no, it was stated that no one is sure about the number of dragonborns and if any existed at the same time. The septiems are just the most famous since they united tamerial under a single empire.
I guess so. But Akatosh's "deal" was with the Septims. And the Nerevarine was part of a prophency in which he/she would be used by Azura, so why would Akatosh be involved in that (honest curiousity)
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:19 pm

I guess so. But Akatosh's "deal" was with the Septims. And the Nerevarine was part of a prophency in which he/she would be used by Azura, so why would Akatosh be involved in that (honest curiousity)
no i beleive his deal was originally with a famous saint who's name I forgot. It was like aleizia or something. as for the azura thing their is the fact she did not create him but reincardnated him as well as the fact the dragonborn can champion any god he so chooses to.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:42 pm

actually akatosh's deal was with allessia and shes so far no way related to the septims at all.

akatosh...well thats some murchy waters there. Lets say azura is a daedra and can manipulate or work in our reality or touch it whatever. Akatosh..wells akatosh is made up but was made real by allessia and only manifestes when call forth by a royality using that giant soul stone which we call amulet of kings. the amulet of kings does not work on any dragonborn and actually works on reg people also but under one condition...they all weither dragonborn or no have to be a king. There is the "real" akatosh thats an aedra and a......"fake" and i use that very loosely akatosh that was thought up and created by allesia.

like i said very very muddy waters there, hopefully soemone better with lore can explain.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:53 pm

actually akatosh's deal was with allessia and shes so far no way related to the septims at all.

akatosh...well thats some murchy waters there. Lets say azura is a daedra and can manipulate or work in our reality or touch it whatever. Akatosh..wells akatosh is made up but was made real by allessia and only manifestes when call forth by a royality using that giant soul stone which we call amulet of kings. the amulet of kings does not work on any dragonborn and actually works on reg people also but under one condition...they all weither dragonborn or no have to be a king. There is the "real" akatosh thats an aedra and a......"fake" and i use that very loosely akatosh that was thought up and created by allesia.

like i said very very muddy waters there, hopefully soemone better with lore can explain.

you lost me with this. I always assumed they were one in the same and that the akatosh we see is only an avatar not him personally. Like him lending some power to the mortal the pact was made with. I'm no where near an expert on lore so I could be completetly off on this.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:30 am

no i beleive his deal was originally with a famous saint who's name I forgot. It was like aleizia or something. as for the azura thing their is the fact she did not create him but reincardnated him as well as the fact the dragonborn can champion any god he so chooses to.
Right, but the deal extended only to the Dragonborn that contolled the Empire, which soon became the Septims.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:44 pm

you lost me with this. I always assumed they were one in the same and that the akatosh we see is only an avatar not him personally. Like him lending some power to the mortal the pact was made with. I'm no where near an expert on lore so I could be completetly off on this.
The amulet of Kings held a prtion of his power. When Martin released it he infused his Dragon blood with it and permanatly banished Mehrunes Dagon from Mundus. That power was then returned to Akatosh, ending his pact with mortals, essnetially rendering us of no use to him. But he returned his power to the mortals witht the Dovahkiin, in order to stop Alduin. So Akatosh is still helping mortals, eventhough he has no need to. Why?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:50 pm

The amulet of Kings held a prtion of his power. When Martin released it he infused his Dragon blood with it and permanatly banished Mehrunes Dagon from Mundus. That power was then returned to Akatosh, ending his pact with mortals, essnetially rendering us of no use to him. But he returned his power to the mortals witht the Dovahkiin, in order to stop Alduin. So Akatosh is still helping mortals, eventhough he has no need to. Why?
but who is to say that they are his only instrument and that between the oblivion crisis and birth of our dragonborn he did not create other dragonborns to carry out his will. The aedra are very indirect so such acts would be the only way for them to manipulate the world in major ways without being direct as the daedra are.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:53 pm

but who is to say that they are his only instrument and that between the oblivion crisis and birth of our dragonborn he did not create other dragonborns to carry out his will. The aedra are very indirect so such acts would be the only way for them to manipulate the world in major ways without being direct as the daedra are.
True, but the nerevarine was born before the Oblivion Crisis.

But I guess it could be possible that he was dragonborn, because Akatosh surely saw the threat that Dagoth Ur and the Tribunal posed. But why? He wasn't there to slay dragons or light the dragonfires. So why make him Dragonborn?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:36 pm

True, but the nerevarine was born before the Oblivion Crisis.

But I guess it could be possible that he was dragonborn, because Akatosh surely saw the threat that Dagoth Ur and the Tribunal posed. But why? He wasn't there to slay dragons or light the dragonfires. So why make him Dragonborn?
that was just showing that the pact may have never been broken.

Also when was it ever suggested that tht was their only purpose. Did septiem only light the dragon fires? Did our character drop dead after defeating alduin? Other purposes for the dragonborns existence could exist that we have no clue about. It is all speculation but I've seen nothing forcing the dragonborn only to fulfill these roles and no others.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:09 pm

that was just showing that the pact may have never been broken.

Also when was it ever suggested that tht was their only purpose. Did septiem only light the dragon fires? Did our character drop dead after defeating alduin? Other purposes for the dragonborns existence could exist that we have no clue about. It is all speculation but I've seen nothing forcing the dragonborn only to fulfill these roles and no others.
True. All we've been told that a dragonborn can do is light the dragonfires (which has no more use), and absorbing dragon souls. There could be millions of other things they can do.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:23 pm

True, but the nerevarine was born before the Oblivion Crisis. But I guess it could be possible that he was dragonborn, because Akatosh surely saw the threat that Dagoth Ur and the Tribunal posed. But why? He wasn't there to slay dragons or light the dragonfires. So why make him Dragonborn?
that was just to show that akatosh may have never broken the link. Also why would akatosh give someone the soul of a dragon if their only task was to light fires. Why have a dragonborn kill his own children. It seems likely that the dragonborn is meant to be a leader of some kind. Septeim was an emperor, and as stated by paarthunrax all with the soul of a dragon have an urge for power.

edit- thought my other post got deleted some how when I couldn't see it and reposted. left it since it was a different response.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:43 am

that was just to show that akatosh may have never broken the link.

Also why would akatosh give someone the soul of a dragon if their only task was to light fires. Why have a dragonborn kill his own children. It seems likely that the dragonborn is meant to be a leader of some kind. Septeim was an emperor, and as stated by paarthunrax all with the soul of a dragon have an urge for power.
That's what I was thinking. I originally thought the Dragonborn would become emperor because of his ability to light the dragonfires, but then I remembered that they no longer exist.

Maybe the dragons are Akatoshs last link to Mundus. Maybe that's why he chose the Dovahkiin to slay Alduin. Maybe that's why the blades, an order essentially dedicated to him, want you to kill Paarthurnax. Akatosh knew Alduin was returning, knew that he would raise the other dragons. Maybe he let it happen so the Dovahkiin could destroy their souls. Maybe Akatosh is tieng up loose ends, and you'll be the last one. :l
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