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Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is D000-45E4 Directory of C:\Games\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins08/22/2010 06:40 PM.08/22/2010 06:40 PM ..08/19/2010 07:05 PM ComponentDLLs05/20/2010 07:55 PM 326,144 ConScribe.dll08/22/2010 06:40 PM 134 ConScribe.ini05/20/2010 07:57 PM 138,031 ConScribe_readme.rtf02/05/2009 07:49 AM 147,456 FastExit2.dll08/22/2010 05:18 PM In Use05/20/2008 09:08 AM 46,080 OBSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll05/19/2008 01:53 PM 386 OBSE_Elys_Uncapper.ini01/26/2010 05:07 AM 332,800 sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll08/20/2010 11:52 AM 2,470 sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.ini01/26/2010 05:04 AM 33,624 sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.txt08/21/2010 08:42 PM Storage 9 File(s) 1,027,125 bytes 5 Dir(s) 372,283,105,280 bytes free
Active Mod Files:00 Oblivion.esm01 DLCShiveringIsles.esp02 nGCD.esp03 nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp
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; -------------; nGCD.ini v1.0; -------------; All of the values used in nGCD calculations can be adjusted here, with the; exception of skill influence ratios which are found in nGCDSkillSpread.ini.; I have included settings not actually used by nGCD's standard configuration,; for those who would like to experiment. The default for each value is listed; after a semicolon.;; You can have individual configuration per character by making a copy of this; file and renaming it like this: nGCD - Character Name.ini; So if your character is named Gabo gra-Nozak, her settings would be contained; in the file named: nGCD - Gabo gra-Nozak.ini; If no unique file exists for a given character, the generic nGCD.ini will be; used. This same character-naming method can be used for nGCDSkillSpread.ini.; - CLEAN -; Use this option to cleanly remove nGCD from a saved game, as described in; the nGCD Readme.; - ASSERT -; This option disables nGCD's optimization checks, causing it to run its full; process every frame rather than only when key changes are detected. This is; useful for troubleshooting, and also for those who would like to test out; changes to the other settings from the console, because otherwise they would; not take effect immediately in game mode.set nGCD.CLEAN to 0 ; 0set nGCD.ASSERT to 0 ; 0; Class Attributes and Luck; -------------------------; After all the skill calculations are complete and their attribute influence; has been calculated (see nGCDSkillSpread.ini), each attribute is in that same; magic 0.0 to 1.0 range. Before being multiplied by AttrMax, this value is; again exponentiated based on your race, birthsign, and whether the attribute; is favored to your class. The formula is:; exponent = 1 - ((RacialAttr + ClassAttr) / AttrMax); RacialAttr is detected automatically.; - ClassAttr -; The amount that "class favored" status adds to your base attribute modifiers.; - ManageLuck -; If disabled, nGCD will not enforce a value for Luck, allowing other mods to; control it. Settings below only apply if this is enabled.; - LuckAlwaysIncreases -; When disabled, nGCD will not increase your Luck unless it is one of your; class attributes. Enabling this causes Luck to increase for all characters.; - LuckGetsClassAttr -; Determines whether or not Luck receives the ClassAttr bonus when selected as; a class attribute. Enable this if you enable LuckAlwaysIncreases, or if you; want slightly faster Luck progression when selecting it as a class attribute.; - ForceBaseLuck -; If set to 0 or higher, this value is used in place of the character's racial; base Luck value.set nGCD.iClassAttr to 5 ; 5set nGCD.bManageLuck to 1 ; 1set nGCD.bLuckAlwaysIncreases to 1 ; 0set nGCD.bLuckGetsClassAttr to 1 ; 0set nGCD.iForceBaseLuck to -1 ;-1; Skill and Attribute Ranges; --------------------------; - SkillMax -; Before calculations are performed, base skill values are divided by SkillMax; with the assumption that the result will be between 0.0 and 1.0. If you use; a mod which allows skill progression over 100, set SkillMax to the highest; value that mod allows.; - AbilitiesReduceSkillMax -; In Vanilla Oblivion, Fortify Skill abilites are added to your base skill; values. The 100-cap on skills includes any Ability bonus; for instance if; you have 70 Acrobatics and Fortify Acrobatics 30 you are considered to have; 100 Acrobatics, gain the Master perk, and cannot advance the skill. To avoid; reducing your character's potential, nGCD reduces SkillMax for skills which; have a bonus from Ability effects; in the example above, the SkillMax for; Acrobatics would be set to 70. In certain situations, such as vampirism, you; can gain and lose Fortify Skill effects; this causes some fluctuation in; your character's attributes and level. If you dislike the side effect, you; can set this option to 0. Additionally, if you use a mod which lets your; skills progress past 100, adjustment is unnecessary and you should set this; to zero.; - AttrMax -; After all other calculations are performed, and assuming none of your skills; are higher than SkillMax, your attributes are also a value in the 0.0 to 1.0; range. These are multiplied by AttrMax to yield the final attribute score.; - AttrCap -; nGCD will not set an attribute higher than this value. This does not affect; any calculations, it only truncates any higher value. For instance, if you; set AttrMax to 125 and AttrCap to 100, all the calculations will be done; assuming a maximum value of 125, causing faster advancement, but you still; won't gain attributes over 100 due to the cap. This value cannot be set; higher than 255, and will have no effect if it is higher than AttrMax.; Settings below which cause adjustments to AttrMax will also adjust AttrCap.; - AbilitiesObeyAttrMax -; An "Ability" is a permanent spell effect. Some mods use them, and they're; how a birthsign grants an attribute bonus. Normally this kind of effect; cannot make an attribute go over 100, and nGCD preserves the standard; behavior by subtracting any Ability bonus from AttrMax for that attribute.; If you have +10 Agility from The Thief, for instance, nGCD will calculate; Agility as if AttrMax were 90 (assuming it's set to the default 100). When; your Ability modifiers are added, your attributes will still obey the; maximum. If you would rather allow Abilities to push you over the normal; cap, set this to 0.; - RacialAttributesOffset -; This value is added to the racial attributes for nGCD's calculations. For; instance, setting it to -20 would cause racial attributes of 30, 40 and 50; to generate nGCD base attributes of 10, 20 and 30.; - RacialAttributesRatio -; After offset, The racial base attribute is multiplied by this value to set; the final value for each attribute. (Options below also use this modified; racial value.); AttrMin and AttrMax, rather than between AttrMin and (AttrMax + AttrMin).; - AttrMin -; This value is added to calculated attributes. If you set this to -1, racial; base attributes are treated as a bonus and have no influence on gain rates.; - AttrMinRaisesAttrMax -; By default, calculation ranges are constrained to yield results between the; specified AttrMin and AttrMax. If this option is enabled, AttrMin is also; added to AttrMax; this is primarily intended for use with racial minimums,; i.e. AttrMin -1; some settings below work only in this configuration.; - RacialAttributesBaseValue -; - RacialAttributesBaseLuck -; If AttrMin is set to -1 and AttrMinRaisesAttrMax is enabled, this sets the; racial attribute value which will cause the normal AttrMax/AttrCap attribute; values to be generated. Higher racial attributes will increase the cap, and; lower ones will reduce it, by the difference between the actual racial value; and this number. For instance, with this value set to 40: an attribute with a; racial base of 30 will generate a maximum value of 90, a racial base of 50; will generate a maximum value of 110, and a racial 40 will have the default; cap of 100. Luck is calculated from a separate base value. These values are; not relative to the offset or ratio calculations above! Set them according to; base racial attributes, even if nGCD is using modified numbers elsewhere.; - RacialAttrMaxRatio -; This is a multiplier to the AttrMax adjustment as described above. With the; previous example and this value set to 2.5, a racial attribute of 30 will; cap that attribute at 75 and a racial 50 will cap at 125.set nGCD.iSkillMax to 200 ; 100set nGCD.bAbilitiesReduceSkillMax to 0 ; 1set nGCD.iAttrMax to 200 ; 100set nGCD.iAttrCap to 200 ; 100set nGCD.bAbilitiesObeyAttrMax to 0 ; 1set nGCD.iRacialAttributesOffset to 0 ; 0set nGCD.fRacialAttributesRatio to 1.0 ; 1.0set nGCD.iAttrMin to 0 ; 0set nGCD.bAttrMinRaisesAttrMax to 0 ; 0set nGCD.iRacialAttributesBaseValue to 40 ; 40set nGCD.iRacialAttributesBaseLuck to 50 ; 50set nGCD.fRacialAttrMaxRatio to 1.0 ; 1.0; Skill Exponent; --------------; After division by SkillMax, the each skill is raised to an exponent which; depends on its class status. These too are between 0.0 and 1.0, guaranteeing; the final result also conforms to that range. Note that exponentiation of; fractions yields a higher result with a lower exponent.; - SkillExpBase -; This is the default exponent for skills which are not modified by any of the; following. The other modifiers are added to this (note that they are negative; values). The final exponent may not be less than 0.; - SkillExpClass -; Exponent modifier for class skills.; - SkillExpSpec -; Exponent modifier for class specialization skills (Combat, Magic, Stealth).; - SkillExpRaceFlat -; Exponent modifier for any skill with a racial bonus, regardless of how much; the bonus is.; - SkillExpRaceScale -; Exponent modifier for any skill with a racial bonus, multiplied by the value; of the bonus.;; The additional columns in this section are alternate recommendations. The; third column is recommended if you would like character class to play a; stronger role than normal in nGCD. The fourth is if you would rather have; class play no role at all.set nGCD.fSkillExpBase to 0.98 ; 0.98 1.0 0.95set nGCD.fSkillExpClass to -0.05 ;-0.05 -0.1 -0.0set nGCD.fSkillExpSpec to -0.03 ;-0.03 -0.05 -0.0set nGCD.fSkillExpRaceFlat to -0.0 ;-0.0 set nGCD.fSkillExpRaceScale to -0.0 ;-0.0 ; Level Determination; -------------------; Level is computed from the total value of all skills, adjusted according to; the following values.; - SkillLevelBase -; Before being added to the level pool, skills are multiplied by this value,; plus any of the following values which apply. Base skills are used, not the; fractional values generated by the formulas described previously.; - SkillLevelClass -; Added to SkillLevelBase for class skills.; - SkillLevelSpec -; Added to SkillLevelBase for specialized skills.; - SkillLevelRaceFlat -; Added to SkillLevelBase for skills with a racial bonus, regardless of amount.; - SkillLevelRaceScale -; Multiplied by racial bonus amount, then added to SkillLevelBase.; - SkillLevelDivisor -; The level pool is offset by an amount computed from both starting and current; skills, to guarantee all characters start at level 1 but have the same cap.; It is divided by this value (rounding down) to yield actual character level.;; Extra columns are the same as described in the previous section.set nGCD.fSkillLevelBase to 0.75 ; 0.75 0.5 1.0set nGCD.fSkillLevelClass to 0.50 ; 0.50 1.0 0.0set nGCD.fSkillLevelSpec to 0.25 ; 0.25 0.5 0.0set nGCD.fSkillLevelRaceFlat to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fSkillLevelRaceScale to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.iSkillLevelDivisor to 28 ; 28; Health, Magicka, and Magicka Regeneration; -----------------------------------------; Each of these derived attributes is controlled by a similar set of variables.; First, there is a flat base value. Next, each attribute is modified by a; multiplier and added to the base. Then the skill influence total (defined in; nGCDSkillSpread.ini) is multiplied by a flat value, and by each of the; attributes, again with a modifier. The skill results are added together, and; divided by the SkillDivisor. This is added to the base for the final result.; Magicka regeneration is in points per second. Finally, if the outcome is less; than a specified minimum, the minimum is used instead.;; - ManageHealth -; - ManageMagicka -; - ManageRegen -; If one of these is set to 0, nGCD will not calculate that attribute, allowing; other mods to handle any or all of health, magicka or regeneration. Setting a; value of -1 will restore vanilla Oblivion behavior for Magicka or Regen. The; -1 setting also restores the vanilla game settings for Health, but because of; the different mode for setting level this will not cause you to gain health; by the vanilla method: use this setting only if you wish to use another; retroactive-health mod which assumes but does not force the vanilla settings.; - RegenDuringSleep -; - RegenDuringWait -; Set these to 0 if you use any other mod which controls Magicka regeneration; during sleep or while waiting, respectively.set nGCD.bManageHealth to 1 ; 1set nGCD.bManageMagicka to 1 ; 1set nGCD.bManageRegen to 1 ; 1set nGCD.bRegenDuringSleep to 1 ; 1set nGCD.bRegenDuringWait to 1 ; 1set nGCD.fHealthSkillFlatMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fHealthSkillStrengthMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fHealthSkillIntelligenceMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fHealthSkillWillpowerMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fHealthSkillAgilityMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fHealthSkillSpeedMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fHealthSkillEnduranceMult to 5.0 ; 5.0set nGCD.fHealthSkillPersonalityMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fHealthSkillLuckMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.iHealthSkillDivisor to 700 ; 700set nGCD.fHealthBaseStrengthMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fHealthBaseIntelligenceMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fHealthBaseWillpowerMult to 0.7 ; 0.7set nGCD.fHealthBaseAgilityMult to 0.7 ; 0.7set nGCD.fHealthBaseSpeedMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fHealthBaseEnduranceMult to 0.6 ; 0.6set nGCD.fHealthBasePersonalityMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fHealthBaseLuckMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.iHealthBaseFlat to 0 ; 0set nGCD.iHealthMinimum to 0 ; 0set nGCD.fMagickaSkillFlatMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaSkillStrengthMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaSkillIntelligenceMult to 2.5 ; 2.5set nGCD.fMagickaSkillWillpowerMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaSkillAgilityMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaSkillSpeedMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaSkillEnduranceMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaSkillPersonalityMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaSkillLuckMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.iMagickaSkillDivisor to 700 ; 700set nGCD.fMagickaBaseStrengthMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaBaseIntelligenceMult to 0.65 ; 0.65set nGCD.fMagickaBaseWillpowerMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaBaseAgilityMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaBaseSpeedMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaBaseEnduranceMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fMagickaBasePersonalityMult to 0.35 ; 0.35set nGCD.fMagickaBaseLuckMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.iMagickaBaseFlat to 0 ; 0set nGCD.iMagickaMinimum to 0 ; 0set nGCD.fRegenSkillFlatMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenSkillStrengthMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenSkillIntelligenceMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenSkillWillpowerMult to 0.072 ; 0.072set nGCD.fRegenSkillAgilityMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenSkillSpeedMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenSkillEnduranceMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenSkillPersonalityMult to 0.028 ; 0.028set nGCD.fRegenSkillLuckMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.iRegenSkillDivisor to 700 ; 700set nGCD.fRegenBaseStrengthMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenBaseIntelligenceMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenBaseWillpowerMult to 0.026 ; 0.026set nGCD.fRegenBaseAgilityMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenBaseSpeedMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenBaseEnduranceMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenBasePersonalityMult to 0.014 ; 0.014set nGCD.fRegenBaseLuckMult to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenBaseFlat to 0.0 ; 0.0set nGCD.fRegenMinimum to 0 ; 0.0
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Active Mod Files:00 Oblivion.esm01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9.5]02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5b]03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5b]04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]07 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]08 Better Cities Resources.esm09 Progress.esm [Version 2.2]** TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp** TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.10]0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]0D SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30]0E Better Cities .esp0F Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp10 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]11 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ PW_MorrowindFog.esp12 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]13 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]14 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]15 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp++ Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp [Version 0.1]16 Distant Chapel Bells.esp17 Cities Alive At Night.esp18 WindowLightingSystem.esp19 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp1A ImprovedSigns.esp++ Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp [Version 1.01]1B Willful Resistance.esp [Version 4.0]1C Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 4.2.2]1D sr_super_hotkeys.esp [Version 0.54]++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++ RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp** mz_Shields_SI.esp1E KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2]++ FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9]1F Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]20 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]21 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]22 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]23 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]** OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]24 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]25 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]26 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]27 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]28 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]29 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]2A Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 1.0]++ FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp [Version 2]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]2B Blood&Mud.esp2C Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]2D FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]2E Better Cities - House price patch.esp [Version 1.0]2F Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]++ Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp30 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1]31 Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 1.0]32 nGCD.esp33 nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++ nGCD Skeleton Key.esp34 ProgressGSD.esp [Version 2.0]35 ProgressMBSP.esp [Version 2.0]36 ProgressRBSP.esp [Version 1.0]37 ProgressRacial.esp38 ProgressArmorer.esp [Version 1.0]** Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp** Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp39 Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp3A bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]++ bgBalancingEVCore - Limr'l.esp3B bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]3C bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]3D SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]3E SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]++ SM_NoSpellLights.esp [Version 0.70]++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]3F Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp40 Better Imperial City.esp** [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp++ Real Lava 1.3.esp++ Visually Enchanted Fire.esp++ Visually Enchanted Frost.esp++ Visually Enchanted Shock.esp** Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp [Version 4.2.2]** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]41 Bashed Patch, 0.esp42 Streamline 3.1.esp
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IIRC, in vanilla, the only thing it does other than adjust skills (and even then, not above 100) is affect your betting odds in the arena. And that's done with a script. The skill adjustment is the only in-engine effect.
» Fri May 13, 2011 9:10 pm
IIRC, in vanilla, the only thing it does other than adjust skills (and even then, not above 100) is affect your betting odds in the arena. And that's done with a script. The skill adjustment is the only in-engine effect.
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