I see your reasoning, and it's sound. However, I feel like if you are a "master" of a certain school then you should be able to do certain god-like feats in that school after putting in so much time. Sure, if you just walk around hitting the spell button over and over then it'll go quicker but if you just play and you actually make it to master (in anything other than alchemy lol) then you've put a LONG time into that skill and if your playing a magic centric character you ought to be able to reap real epic rewards. On;y recently with video game technology have we been able to accomplish this type of feat and I think it's time to amp up the telekinesis.

Only if the first high-level mage you fight picks you up and drops you from 1000 feet in the air.

Player gets extra special Dragon Shout powers. Any "generic" magic we want for the PC should be usable against the PC.

I agree that once your a master of something you should be able to do something incredible but just not flinging people about like rag dolls, it's just not in the lore and is something you might think of one of the tribunal being able to do. Now, say you can pick up bigger and bigger things because when you become a master of alteration it reduces the speed at which your magicka drains from weight so you can pick up a nice sized boulder or some cart or something, I don't know, but just not picking people up and flicking them like a booger.

Edit: However I would be fine with being able to levitating someone with the limitations on levitate that I explained above. It's just that if you could pick up someone with telekinesis, then you could hold them in place while you beat them to death with your sword or blast them with spells. It would just turn into an overpowered spell like levitation used to be.

Sure! As long as I have Slowfall I'll be fine with that

A great spell with so few uses. It really needs improving, you should be able to cause damage to enemies by hurling huge objects at Master level. I hope they do improve it!

Agree with Sleign' s take on telekinesis. :thumbsup:

Anyone who thinks Telekinesis was useless has never played a thief who knows Mysticism, that′s all.

I just hope the spell isn't as buggy as it was in Oblivion.

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I would like to see this, I have thought about it it should be more intuitive to use as well, I think the old telekinesis spell was clunky.

It would make sense for it to be in alteration thats where I think it would be, I dont see why they would axe the spell.

Hmmm, that would be nice, until you decide to throw a sword in the air for no reason. Then a guard comes at you with a sword in his face "STOP, you violated the law"

You shouldn't do things like that around people like you shouldn't practice Conjuration in town :nono:

Well said well said, it would be asking for, misfortune. :shifty:

Where does it say in lore that you couldnt pick someone up with Telekinesis? And if it is in lore, lore is not concrete.

They already said that all the effects of Mysticism will simply be moved to other skills.

If you read the GI article it makes it clear that the spell that should have been the offensive version of telekenisis is going to be a dragon shout, throwing enemies backwards.

I just hope its not a sign of things to come with dragonshouts overshadowing spell effects to the point that its not worth bothering with magic.

Thats what I have said several times, "lore is not concrete" its not set in stone an d reguardless what people want things change.

It doesn't say you can't pick up people in the lore, that's the point really. As for lore not being concrete, your right but it's highly unlikely that it will be added. I'm okay with telekinesis being able to manipulate objects like corpses or other objects to use against people as offense but picking people up and tossing them aside like Force Unleashed doesn't fit TES lore at all and not to mention that is a feature that would be game breaking. We shouldn't be putting in things that are obviously exploitable....

Dragon shouts will probably be like Powers - powerful spells you can only use once a day. I imagine they will limit you to just one dragon shout (regardless of how many you know of them) per day. So you'll be inclined to use them sparingly.

I'd like to see it become more of a Bioshock Telekinesis. Being able to hurl items at people and cause damage.

I don't want to be that guy but... if it's in the lore that you can't lift living beings I'd like to see a little proof and just as soon as I'm done writing this I'll go looking for myself (just to show I'm not lazy ). Also, if it's never been done before it makes more sense that it's a limitation of the technology at the time the games were made rather than a lore issue unless there's a specific reference in the lore which states it (fairly) clear. I don't want to fling someone a 1000 feet away but I sure would like to lift some bandit up and drop him off a cliff as I think that'd be hilarious.






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I found in the lore that telekinesis seems to only be used on "objects". It didn't give any reason but it never mentioned having previously been used on people or creatures. However it never states that you CAN'T use it on people and if you think about how mysticism works it seems likely that it would be possible given the use of teleportation and other mysticism effects work on people just fine.

id like for it to be removed from the game for a more useful spell or something.

Being a compulsive cleptomaniac in any RPG I have ever played, I definately want this one in game. If it can be improved to suit combat purposes, all the better.

hope its not lame

Well think about it. Try holding something with one hand that is constantly writhing and trying to get free. That would basically be like trying to hold a person with telekinesis. It only makes sense that you can't pick up a living thing with telekinesis. A corpse yes, because it isn't trying to get free, but living things, no, leave that to a Daedric prince to do.

If telekinesis became useful in combat, I'd roll a character whose soul purpose is to kill people ala telekinesis.