Rather than clearing the Xbox 360 cache, go to FONV under System Settings>>>Hard Drive>>>Games. There is a file titled something along the lines of "Patch 3." Delete it. When loading FONV select "cancel" when asked to download the patch. When loading a save file the DLC error message still appears, but your save files should be able to load. Mine did.

Hopefully this works for everyone as a temporary fix until another patch is out!

Yes, but all the stuff that the previous patch solved will be gone too. You'll be playing the release date version of the game.

Yea, no that doesn't work for getting my game to work past my level 6 guy. This is a good idea and all, but a no go for me. I even did that, then tried downloading an older character which worked for about 5 minutes, just enough time to get into a scraqe when my game and system froze up again. Thanks Bethesda. I don't mean to jump on the bandwagon, but wow, whoever is in charge of testing patches like these needs to be fired. This is unreasonable, and any longer than a week for a patch on this thing is really destroying all publisher cred you once had with me. I can appreciate the effort, but doing something like this to your loyal customers, who are willing to spend hundreds of hours and plenty of money buying and then freely advertising your product to their friends just comes off as a real big SCREW YOU to your "fans". I understand this kind of thing happens with a game as complicated as this one, but really, REALLY? Come on guys (and gals), for many people this is unforgivable. You didn't even get hacked! This is purely a lazy oversight with too little time put into testing, and that is just unprofessional.

Occasional hiccups happen with games as massive as the Fallout series. In all honesty I don't know why people are so surprised. Bigger Game = Bigger Chance for a bug to slip by. People are spoiled on small area games with little to no hiccups in the games. Yes, it's frustrating, but these things happen. There are other games for you to play other than FNV.

Ruined, I didn't awhole lot of freezing issues with the Crackdown and Just Cause series; as I posted in another topic. Although others may have. Those maps are rather big, especially Just Cause 2. If it takes about 2-5 minutes to fly from end of the map to the other in a fighter jet in JC2, that huge. And not to mention all of the activity still occuring on ground level at altitude. With that said, I agree there is alot activity, but there needs to be more attention to detail. Here's an idea, disregard the beneficial glitches for now and fix the catastrophic ones. Priorities. They've got a grea series with this title and TES. I'm really looking forward to Skyrim and Rage. As I stated, I surmise the real issue is the programers aren't allowed enough time to ensure the product is of quality work. If so, please speak out about and demand such. I imagine we gamers will support them, or I will.

Yes, I agree with your point, and I agree there needs to be more attention to detail, but what I don't agree with is the people that expect a game as vast as Fallout, TES, Crackdown 1&2 (yes I've read complaints about those too...though the number where few), or Just Cause (though I haven't really played this so I can't comment or speculate.), to come out completely bug free. The idea that a game can be released without a single bug is farsicle. Yes, FNV has more bugs than the average game, but if you were trying to compete with Companies like IW, 3arch, or EA, and pushed out a game you know people are waiting for, then I can guarentee your game wont come out completely spotless either.

Bethesda's main problem with FNV is that they released it waaaay to early to try and compete with the other big games coming out around that time, like Medal of Honor or CoD: Blops for instance. As of now Bethesda is scrambling around trying to find all these bugs, their causes, and a safe and effecient way to fix them. These things take time, some people just don't understand this it seems.

I agree as well there isn't a 100% bug-free game. I have had some freezing in my case I can safely say in all games in my library. I whole-heartedly agree with titles being released way too early. I don't think most fans would mind alittle more time for polishing before release. To be honest, I shouldn't be commenting as I have no idea what's going on. It would be better if Bethesda informed us about exactly is going on. I just don't want to seem be always complaining about something. Educate me about what's happening and I'm likely to give more leeway.

Exactly, my whole thing though is, it's the people that just complain, dont ask for information, or rather, complain just because they can; jumping on the bandwagon so to speak.

In all honestly, I wouldn't have minded waiting a while for FNV, i mean I technically did since I could only finish the game after the game came out with the Wild Card playthrough, other than that, I couldn't really do anything. But there comes a time when you have to realize that sometimes, things just can't be helped.

It's unfortunate sometimes. And I agree. Jumping on the bandwagon isn't productive, yet there are those who wish not to be. Just like things can be helped, there are those can't be as well.

Too true, expecially in this day and age.

I did think of something regarding the deleting the patch fix this thread claims. I see it on my console, but if I delete it, would it also delete the previous patches as well? I mean, do these patches overwrite themselves? I agree it's unfortunate in this day and age. Though sometimes I fall into that category 'til I realize I'm not being part of the solution.

I don't beleive so, I've deleted patches in the past and it was fine.

Ahhh, I usually do too, but more often than not I try and help things along.

So do I. Vigilance is always a virtue desired. Well deleting it seems to have worked. I can now atleast finish the Ceaser's Legion arc.

Agreed. Thats good. :thumbsup: Least you can play now.

I've worked doing software quality control, and there is no possible way to release "bug-free" software. And most fin-depth games go through a nerfing period with patches. The fact that I saw a message on my screen, went to a forum and found a response and suggested fix from the developers themselves says "quality" to me.

Ideally, no game would ever need a patch.

Ideally, no patch would ever cause a problem.

Ideally, every user would be aware of every potential issue and fix.

Realistically, the patch was released, issues arose, and a reasonable solution was provided. Job done in my book. The patch still needs fixing, but the company is functioning properly as far as I can tell.

I have to say I am glad when I see a possible issue, go to the developer's site and see discussion of the issue. EA would typically would delete all this and not bother to post something until the problem was solved. NOT a superior PR strategy, IMHO.

I much prefer the company being a partner in this because of the way they are handling it. It could certainly be worse. I've rarely seen something handled better.

Completed Arizona Killer, Render unto Ceaser, and Veni, Vidi, Veci. Now all I have left is to run around and get the Desert Survivalist Achievement, then complete Dead Money.

Congratulations! :vaultboy: Yeah haha, i'm still working on the DS acheivement. :sadvaultboy:

Oh yeah, I have 5086 or so points of 10,000 so far. I like to get the Desert Salad but the pinion nuts don't appear often. I was planning to just load on food and hotkey them and use stimpacks for emergency. I have found hardcoe to be abit easier as stacking different foods and other Aids speed recovery very quickly. I figure I just have to run around making everyone my enemy. The whole of the Mojave out for my head should speed that achievement along nicely. Then it's off to Dead Money.****Oh, has the patch for the patch (v1.3) been released yet?

Hmmm... you know you have a great idea right there. Thanks for the tip. haha.

Yeah, it was released at about 5am or so, though I guess a small number of people are still having problems.