10%, OF THE POPULATION, if you read the post I was replying to it would have made sense.

Think of the poor monsters. They were plagued by the Enclave.

hehe

They don't. Population of the UK: approx 60 million. Population of Greater London: approx 8-10 million.

As to Tenpenny, I wonder if he was on the same boat Moriarty was on?

And I disagree with the Rook, in that I like having the speculation room and don't see it as a dropped bollock.

Hah! the only people that believe that are within the M25.

Ice Age?! 0_o
Don't you mean like the Viking Age, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Vikings-Voyages.png from Norway to Iceland, from Iceland to Greenland and from Greenland to Vinland (Newfoundland)

And the Atlantic Ocean is probably full of http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/522/170182_full.jpg.

Ice Age was 15,000 to 20,000 years ago. People from Europe did not discover North America till 1000 AD. There was a mini Ice age about 800 years ago or so which scientists think is the reason why Vikings abandoned Greenland.

CALL OF CTHULU! YOU'RE AWESOME! *cough*

Also, Vikings are http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk171/fattoler/victor1983.jpg

I see what you r telling him now.

Well evn if it is then its is still possible.

And no I am not talking about the Vikings, Im actually talking about Europeans comign across during teh Ice Age, I wactched a documentary on CBC.



Nope, watched a documentary on CBC.

They didn't find the Americas until the late 1400s, Pre-Russia Russians found it during the Ice Age through Alaska... Maybe that's what you meant?

People first came to the Americas 15,000 to 20,000 years ago by crossing the Bering Strait land bridge created during the last Ice Age.

Vikings came to America in 1000 AD and settled in Newfoundland but later abandoned it, some think it was because of the natives.

Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I read about this a few years ago. Genetic mapping and some very ancient east coast digs have led a lot of archeologists to rethink the distribution of early man in America. The Bering strait migrations Styles points out are still accepted as the genesis of western early Americans, but there were racial and societal traits in the East that couldn't be explained unless there were migrants from Europe.
You're right.

What is the urban population to rural. Only counting England not Wales or Scotland

Anyone considered airships like Zeppelins? Would take the sea monsters out of the equation

Yeah, the BoS used http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061019104203/fallout/images/e/e9/Zeppelin_45.jpg, but they crashed in a thunder storm.

They probably aren't the only zeppelins...

That could be a possibility...

Unknown, but it wouldn't tell you much as there's still major urban places like Birmingham, Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield, Bristol, Bradford, etc.

hahah
on the zeppelins.

I dont think thye should be discounted just because the BoS had an accident.

if that logic were the case for every mode of transporation, none of us would ever get out of our seats.. and some people even fall out of those!

No, of course not.
I love zeppelins. My favorite shirt is of a zeppelin. I think zeppelins should be used again, I don't care if they can ignite and kill everyone onboard.

There seem to be more dangers now that pre-war though, Tycho spoke about huge, radioactive tornadoes, and then there's those huge thunderstorms which the BoS, by some mean twist of fate, just had to get caught into.
But in Fallout 3 and and most of New Vegas, the weather seem to be calm all the time.

I'd like some storms - huge duststorms, tornadoes, lightning storms - in F4

oh, for sure, everything is frought with peril in the setting...

I see no reason they couldnt slap a doppler on one of those puppies, just to get an idea of what they are against and plan their course on the fly.
And while zeppelins use hydrogen, I also find myself wonering about something much closer to a hot air balloon to get away from highly flamably inflatants.
A modeed flameraassembly to provide the hot air, perhaps.

I would definately like weather as well.
random encounter tornadoes. Dust sorms is something i didnt think of, but would be great as well. preception droppingto nil..
I got caught in a sandstorm in the colorado sand dunes national park once., it is intense.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2002/columbus.shtml

http://ironlight.wordpress.com/2010/03/19/stone-age-sailors-reached-america-18000-years-ago/

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/natureofthings/2011/codebreakers/





Yep I are posted article that talks about this.

Even if Eurpeans did make it to America during the Ice Age, they did it be moving along the massive ice sheet that connected Europe and North America. They were not moving across open bodies of water and it was not the main way the Americas became populated.

we still know of many groups traveling to the americas by means of ship, well before the industrial revolution..
tehre is evidence, which i remember seeing recently that the europeans (i want to say roman) traded with mayans, well before we thought was possible.

tjhen you have the polynesians that were seafarers up around 4.000 years ago.

how people got ehre throughout history shouldnt be a point of contention.

True but see below post, plus Tenpenny could have come on a refurbished modern boat. Maybe a plane eve. And whats to say that a Nuclear Winter of sorts ahs occured and sea levels are lower.



This as well, I also saw adn read articles about how the Ancietn Eygptians had Cocaine, which just so happens to be from the New World. This would go to show that in reed boats they corssed the south atlantic to get these items.