I am guesssing he came on a boat. I am sure it was not easy. We will never know because Bethesda can't write, they have no imagination. They had a chance to tell a great story and what did we get? An old man with an accent and a Dev had to say "yeah he is from the UK." :down:

Well, this is true.

Sometimes I wonder if Bethesda leaves stuff sketchy on purpose, just so people will continue to talk about it. I've seen various creators in different media allude to doing this.
Then I remember that the main trading river in Oblivion doesn't actually reach the sea.
*sigh*

Beth can write and they do have imagination. But their focus (and success) in F3 was on moment to moment gaming experience and for obsessives like me the game is frustrating. Fun, absolutely. But pretty damned shallow.

Well in the same article the dev does say the gameplay trumps the story. Not not about the Tennpenny thing, but just that he said it at all.

I see what the dev is saying, but not with something like this. He has alot of info we all want to know, and most people ended up chucking him off the tower at one time or another.

please don't get too hung up on prehistoric migrations that may or may not have happened.

This is the 21st century. There has been a nuclear war. A raging Atlantic, that may or may not have huge seabeasts, insane hurricanes and tornados, radiation. Back to the question: how do you cross it?

A Zeppelin is great because it's old-skool tech, can be filled with brahmin-gas, and can avoid the waves and sea-beasts. Downside is that savage lightning storms would potentially blow it away/turn it into a flameball.

Old-skool warship has to negotiate all of the above, BUT is armour-plated, steel, has weapons. How to man it/run it though.

And we're overlooking the obvious 3rd choice: submarine. Surely, hidden out in the depths, they would have avoided the worst of the nuclear war. And they are designed to run for months, years. A sub or two could still be seaworthy 200 years later (with a little maintainence). Has the advantage of avoiding the huge waves, radiation and storms. Still has to face sea-beasts, if such things exist. But I'm sure seabeasts have learned not to try to chew on a sub, bad for your teeth

I vote submarine.

I'd like to mention that it is said that Moriarity 'ended up in this country as a baby.' Perhaps he and Tenpenny made the same journey. Maybe Dukov was there too.

I understand there are 'raging seas' but the travel thing is far from impossible. As mentioned, the BoS uses airships, and other flying machines are also entirely possible (Vertibirds, The Boomers). Ships didn't all vanish either, Rivet City is still floating, and in-game the people were considering putting it back together.

The min trading river never reaches the sea? What?




How is the atlantic ragin, the moon still exists so the tides are in check and I truly doudt there are super destructive super giant super beasts plaguing the ships crossing the ocean. Really, com on.

The Enclave released the FEV mere hours before the nukes struck. Abominations and perversions of nature sprung up every where because of it (it wasn't just the radiation that warped the natural world.) Who's to say that the same didn't happen to oceanic life? Even with out the FEV (irl) we have species of man eating squid and others said to grow over 60ft. in length (and theorised to be able to get MUCH larger.) Jellyfish the size of a small bus. Apex predators like the various species of shark, can't forget them. What about other marine life? What of such organisms like fire coral, sea anemones, rock fish, and salt water crocs? The potential is there.

Try swimming from the Imperial City to the sea. It's pretty funny.

Indeed, I don't doubt there is mutations in the sea life. Think of the possibilites, stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa0SY6RYJIo
or this: http://bit.ly/hw82Js

See, I love how people say that the rest of the world is dead. But yet, most wastelanders I come across aren't of vault decent. I mean, look at Megaton. And onto the rest of the world at Vaults, I can guarantee that the UK or France were more caring to their people then those fascist Enclave.

indeed! heck, even Maxons group encountered raiders when they left meriposa.

Uhmmm bud, those things IRL dont just eat boats, things are not gonna grow to be 500 feet long, it is perfectly plausible for people to travel across the oceans.

You can do it, you go past Bravil and Leyawiin and out into the bay adn then the sea? Seriously, Im not getting it.

Whales have been seen meauring in up to 100 feet, a creatures being five times as big seems possible if you look at rad scorpions and stuff like that. The biggest land living dinosaurs where estimated at 120 000 kg and about 200 ft long and im not sure about the sea living dinosaur but I think they where even bigger. A 500 ft monster is possible in the fallout universe, atleast IMO

I do find myself wondering how much of the sea life would be killed off by the percussion.concussion forces of every nation on the planet being nuked back into the stone age.

I wont argue there wouldnt be gaint sea life in the fallout universe.. it makes sense.

but just like people still going outside and the like, I think people would stillgo inthe water, despite the elevated risk.

Yah but do you really think that something like a giant prehistoric whale is gonna waste its time eating a boat.

If it is 500 feet, then it goes something like this.

500<300<200<100<50<25<15<10<5
Its not gonna eat some boat. Plus would the Oil Rig not have been assualted by these monstrosities.

I mean giant sharks these days do not attack fishing vessels, so bigger ones might ram you boat if they come up for air, but they ahve bigger problems.

The oilrig had automated defences and great whites attack humans even if they are MUCH bigger.

Why cant a boat have defences?


I find myself wondering how the oil rig would have defended its legs

Well it most likly had anti-air and water defences but im thinking how they would defend themself from subs, a very real threat, so they probably had some sort of underwater defence system

well i would hope they had defenses if there were sea. monsters. but.. i still wonder what those would be.... would lasers be effective in water or would the water bend them? i think that torpedoa could be bad as a choice becasue is your target is moving too fast you risk messing up the rig from the percussive nature of an underwater explosion...... plasma? hmmmmm

A huge sea monster wouldn't be able to travel that fast :wink_smile:

Why are bloody whales attacking boats, they want to eat things not bite steel.

they probably wouldn't, unless they are like the shark in jaws and are after the piecies of meat inside that steel can :rolleyes:

The river is blocked by Leyawin. Honest. A boat couldn't get by.
Wow, this is off topic.

On Topic-- Maybe Tenpenny just hiked the transAtlantic tunnel?