No you didn't a few days after the ghouls move in peacefully Roy murders the human residents anyway. Its a scripted event no way to avoid it outside of PC mods.

It's not bigotry when they really *ARE* going to massacre you and eat your brains. After I found out what happens, I reloaded and settled for murdering Alistair Tenpenny, and otherwise left all the ghouls outside (but alive). It's the closest I could find to a "good" ending. Tenpenny deserved it for comissioning the destruction of Megaton, even though I stopped that particular scheme.

As sympathetic as I am to the plight of Ghouls, I don't think helping the Ghouls in this case is 'good'. Showing they, at the request of Roy, murder the residents regardless, I think killing 3 ghouls is more fair than butchering a whole tower. If the Tower wants to live in it's naive bigotry, more power to them. I have better things to do than worry about an out of the way Tower's ego.

I think the fact that the Tenpenny Tower Resident's fears prove to be well founded when they drop that bigotry and decided to give the ghouls a chance, tells me that the bigotry is not naive. At least in this particular case.

The reason it happens is because of Roy. In general their bigotry is naive. Ghouls don't eat peoples brains, or act like zombies (Barring ferals). That's like deciding that because the Enclave's plan was to kill off all non-enclave, all Enclave wanted to butcher the mainlanders, which as the Remnants show, there were many who did not agree with this.

Regardless. Had they maintained their policy of "keeping out the ghouls because they turn feral" they would have lived. Thus, they weren't really being naive. They were being cautious, and their caution proved to be justified.

Perhaps they were naive in automatically thinking that ghouls=zombies (as in traditional "shufflers") but the point still remains that it is true that most ghouls appear to turn feral at some point. Roy, in my opinion, was showing signs of going feral. Their bigotry is not unfounded.

Also despite Roy being the main instigator, the other two in his gang followed him right in step.

It is bigotry when they fear and hate ghouls without knowing any of the facts about them like they don't eat peoples brains and they aren't all feral.

Kill all zombies.
The wastes are better off without these mutant scum corrupting it.

Well...the residents of Tenpenny Tower do seem to be a bit luxurious, not researching into things, such as feral/non-feral ghouls. I guess it's fair to say that the residents, aren't quite sure of the harm, that the ghouls might or might not inflict, to them. The reason that you would probably receive bad karma is cause it's sorta like an act of being close-minded and not opening your tolerance to a different "race". It's like being racist. And in the game...the residents of Tenpenny Tower are viewed as racists or "skinnist" towards ghouls, which is mean and bad.

So siding with them, can be a bad thing. However, if you like ghouls and want to get them into the Tower, WITHOUT having them kill any of the residents, just ask Tenpenny, once you meet up with Roy in the sewers. Tenpenny will give you a list of people to convince, so that ghouls can come stay in the tower. You can either convince those certain people, to be okay with ghouls, entering their homes or threaten them(With a speech check) that ghouls will move in and tell them to pack their things.

Once you got all approvals from all of the people on the list, head back to Tenpenny and inform him. He will tell you that it is okay, for ghouls to stay there. Then you just walk back to Roy Phillips and tell him the good news. He walks to the Tower and then him and his ghoul friends, appear there.

If you go upstairs to Tenpenny's room, you will see blood swiped across the edge of the bathtub.


Talking with Roy, he tells you that him and Tenpenny "met up" for a long-awaited meeting.

With this...you can have ghouls stay at the Tower, along with having Tenpenny dead and gone(Note: You might not wanna do this, if you haven't finished the "You Gotta Shoot 'Em In The Head" quest, as Tenpenny is involved in this).

I have no personal preference on which side I choose. On my first playthrough, I got the mask. What did I do? I put it on Butch for fun.

And a few days later Roy slaughters the rest of the human residents

Accept the mask for helping the ghouls, run back to Tempenny Tower, kill them all myself

I love how helping the ghouls slaughter a bunch of people is considered the good karma option by the game.

Tenpenny will listen to reason and I see no reason why Tenpenny is a bad guy. Just some old guy living out his life. The fact that the ghouls killed Dashwood was the last straw...

That's Bethesda 4 u!

Well technically you get good karma for trying to get them to live peacefully together. You get bad karma for actually helping Roy attack the tower.

It is a tough call and the quest left me feeling robbed.

Nice, Victor Grey ^^. Yeah, my first time going back after working it out with all involved..... I was upset too. I cut off every ghoul's head I could and lay them down in a row at the base of the stairs behind Gustavo's front desk. Think of it like a head on a pike in front of the castle kind of warning.

I simply popped Roy's head off with a double barrel shotgun after coming back to Tenpenny Tower for the first time and finding out what happened. Then I proceeded to confront other ghouls to find out what they had to say about me finishing off Roy. Of course when I came back downstairs most other ghouls had apparently already left with the exception of Roy's lacky, who attacked me and I returned the favor with the same shotgun. Now unfortunately Tenpenny Tower sits a ghost tower in my game, a sore reminder of one of my character's bad decisions.

I didn't know Tenpenny was involved in a few other shady things around the Wasteland though, until I read a couple of posts here. I'm gonna wanna look into that next play through.

Shady? Like what? Sure he had a slave but that's not really shady.

LOL I bet you felt really good after that!

Well, yea, my fear of Reaver's got the better of me and I opted to help Roy for selfish reasons (to get the mask) -.-

I think during my 2nd play-through, I will kill Roy and his croonies!

its one of the first places i went too after megaton. hated those snobs. one of the best quests imo.

LOL

You're basically deciding between three options:

-Tenpenny and his residents want the Ghouls to leave because they are afraid of the uncertain, and Ghouls are definitely an uncertainty for them. This is because they are very isolated from the world, and are not used to them. They are simply afraid and don't know what to expect, so they simply want them gone.

-Roy wants inside Tenpenny Tower, but isn't let in, and he keeps trying. After a while I think he just doesn't care anymore, and simply wants to prove his point to Tenpenny.

1. You go into the cave and kill Roy Phillips+ his followers, (you can side with Tenpenny Tower even after you get the ghoul mask), and everything goes back to normal.

2. You simply slaughter the humans inside the tower, which can be accomplished two ways. You can kill them all yourself, or use the feral ghouls.

3. You come to a peaceful solution that isn't all that peaceful. Roy Phillips gets picky, even after being let in, and decides to kill everyone in Tenpenny tower (including completely innocent people such as Dashwood) and dumps them in the metro.

I almost always side with Chief Gustavo and his plan to get rid of the ghouls.

First time I played I sided with Tenpenny, the second time I played I sided with the ghouls because of the mask that Roy gives you the Ghoul Mask that is very useful in the metro tunnels