Now that would be one scary city ruler...


Or one of the wizards. Yo!

I do not wish to appear as coarse as a beach (as in the seaside not life's a) but the reason 'I failed to mention that fact' is because I was not privy to this information, I may have seen it but it left my brain which is why I 'selfishly neglected' to add that information.
Anyway even in this modern world are you telling me that you have never for example: been asked to go out, you reply 'why?', and they say 'why not?' and you agree to it. That is effectively the same as 'just because', I can understand the need to have proper defined reasons but sometimes you don't need a reason. It is also fun when sometimes tries to reason with you but cannot because you don't have a reason.



I think the real question is what level of naughtiness occured for him to suspend his disbelief of Skyrim. [Very poor joke intended there]

Being asked to go out is something completely different than being referenced in a game. That's considered a honorific, a sign of respect for that person for their accomplishments. But alot of people have accomplished some great things, why should one person just arbitrarily get singled out for acknowledgement and not the others, which is what the original post was suggesting.

It would be great to see a Pratchett reference in Skyrim, whether or not it would be 'a sign of respect' or an acknowledgement, or 'just because' wouldn't matter in the least - if the player knows Pratchett's work, he'll get the gag - if not, it will pass him by. It won't matter, unless it matters. :confused:

Ok so I'm no good with metaphors/similes the ideas get lost in the scenario, what I was trying to pull across is that there is no in depth reason or string of reasons for you to go out but you do anyway. On review it is very poor but that is what I was trying to put across.

As for why Terry Pratchett should be referenced well it is just a discussion, I thought it would be an interesting thing to do, besides it may not even happen. Someone can just be arbitrarily singled out for reference, there is such a thing as doing things on a whim, if that is what I suggested in my first post then there we are. Like I said I think he is a good writer and I like what he writes, for me I need no further reason, I enjoy toying with different ideas that can be used to inject a little comedy into the game. If you would like further/better reasons then that is down to you, but I'm afraid I don't think past the superficial. I just wanted to discuss funny ideas.

Whats Discworld like?

Sounds like its full of gags and references.

It is

Terry Prattchet has himself described the Discworld as a geographical pizza (without anchovies)

And a lot of the books contain parodies on folklore and other books.

Sounds like my kind of series.

:)

I voted no, simply because I think that a fandom that has nothing to do with TES should simply stay out of TES. Just because both Discworld and TES have magic and guilds and what-not is not enough reason to put Discworld references into Skyrim, and skip other series that also share the same basics. If one of the devs happens to be a big Pratchett fan and puts one small well-hidden easter egg into the game for fun and giggles, then okay I guess... those who haven't read Discworld won't get it, but please no clear in-your-face references you can't avoid.

Besides, not everyone likes Discworld (I don't, can't get into it). I do like Harry Potter, LotR, the Chronicles of Narnia and the Chronicles of LonTobyn for example, but I wouldn't want to see any references to those in Skyrim either. Lets not mix up fandoms, please? TES has its own awesome world with its own awesome references, it doesn't need any others IMO.

But Bethesda has a habit of putting in easter eggs that have nothing to do with the game whatsoever.
Names of real world restaurants, sports teams, references to star wars, the skeleton of indiana jones.. and pokemon.
There can be an easter egg of Terry in if the developers like his work, just like anything else.
And what really helps the case is that Terry has often said in public how much he appreciates Oblivion.
I would really love to see some small reference. It doesnt have to be big. I would actually prefer a small in-joke that people not in the know would be oblivious to, but people that get it smile.
Like how I never realised Pikachu was in Morrowind, till someone who knew pokemon better pointed it out to me.

If you were talking about the skeleton and refridgerator in NV.

No, Morrowind

from the UESP:
"The body of Indiana Jones can be found in the Omalen Ancestral Tomb. Apparently a rock fell on his leg, dooming him to a slow death. There's a scroll that records his last thoughts, signed "Indie". "

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:A_dying_man%27s_last_words

I know and like I said I don't mind small easter eggs. You just pretty much repeated what I said If they really want to put in a Discworld easter egg by all means, go for it. Just as long as it stays small, you know. I wouldn't like it if, for example, it's a quest reward that's also a easter egg/reference to whatever because than it'd be pretty much unavoidable. And easter eggs are only fun if you stumble upon them without ever expecting it. But that's just how I see it.

Pikachu was in Morrowind? 0_o Durr I missed something.

Oh I forgot about that.

Silly me.

From the UESP:
"Peke Utchoo

In Mudan Grotto there's a skeleton called 'Peke Utchoo', which sounds quite similar to the Pokémon Pikachu. Whoever put the skeleton in also included a note that reads, "If anyone shall ever find me, I hope I am able to bring them to laughter." The note was probably put in to make sure that the player realizes that the skeleton is meant to be a joke.

[edit] Other Pokémon References

Encountered during the Main Quest, there are a few locations which reference Pokémon in their names. In Ilunibi, there's a section called Marowak's Spine. In Arkngthand, there's a Weepingbell Hall. In the Urshilaku Burial Caverns, there is a section called Kakuna Burial."

And here was me thinking for years that weepingbell hall had something to do with the sixth house bell hammers.

Oh right! Now I remember! Thanks for freshing up my memory. I guess that's my cue to start playing Morrowind again.

Easter Eggs and gags lighten the mood during long excursions and exploration sessions, whether it be an Indiana Jones reference, a Pokemon reference or a nod to the great Terry Pratchett, I am all for an 'in' joke here or there. If used sparingly and not too glaringly obvious, and certainly not something that interferes in any way with the dynamics of the game of course.

I'm basically not interested in any OOC references at all in an RPG, but if there has to be some, then it should be sufficiently obscure that it doesn't break immersion.

If folks really want this sort of thing, then I suggest a "Wild Wasteland" toggle.

Yeah, the ability to toggle gags or Easter Eggs on/off would be the best way to go, that way everyone is happy - insomuch as us gamers are ever completely satisfied eh?

using that logic, then i dont see why any easter egg should be included into any game. the point is just fun sillyness that links TES games to the real world in a comical manner, usually.

a reference?
A draugr dressed in a santa claus suit claiming he is santa, then turning out to be some god of death in disguise(or something like that)
haven't read any of his work but i saw the hogfather movie and thought it was pretty cool

It pails compared to the book. You should check it out.

Back to the topic: I would love a subtle Pterry reference or two to be added - up to the designers of course.
But then there are always mods. Oblivion has its fair share of mods that include their own Discworld references, without breaking the feel of the game at all.