[Miss Hayley]

Way back when prior to the release of oblivion, I had been visiting the forums for years in anticipation of it's release. The extended periods with little or no news were painful and frustrating. It seems that the cycle is being repeated this time around. It has been 4 years since the release of TESIV and from briefly browsing the forums it seems that there has not even been announcement that TESV is being worked on. There were some comments made back in 2008 by Bethesda’s Paul Oughton which indicated the next game in the series would see a 2010 release, but at this point in the game I would say this is not going to happen.

Now, prior to Oblivion's release there were times when the forums reached a fevered pitch of anticipation. During one of these times, I decided to leave and not return. Of course, I have stopped by on occasion to see if there have been any developments in the last few years and I have finally taken the plunge and signed up again to take part in the discussion but I find I'm disheartened already by the fact that Bethesda have not even announced that TESV is being worked on. 4 years and no news whatsoever? It's not like there have not been internal discussions of the fate of the series. I'm just amazed that there has been no news in 4 years.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm glad to be back and have an opportunity to take part in the discussions, but I'm worried about the experience being as frustrating as it has for me previously. Does anyone else feel this way? Have you felt this way before?

[Inol Wakhid]

Well, I think BGS is right on schedule if they announce it this year. Seems like with previous games they've announced 2 years after one games release, and then 2 years later it gets released. Example: Morrowind, released in 2002, Oblivion was then announced in 04 and released in 06. It has only been 2 years since the last game BGS developed. You have to go by Fallout 3, not TESIV.

[Cedric Pearson]

I just try to be patient. Besides, Todd has said that they will make another TES game, he just didn't say when.

[Ladymorphine]

I can wait. I' not even nearly done with the old games yet.

[Jessica Thomson]

A couple months and I will stop caring until its announced, but by that time I might even miss the announcement. I honestly think we wont get anything till sometime next year. I hope they take their time but they could at least tell us if they are working on it or not. <.<

[Ricky Meehan]

Honestly, the sooner they announce it, the sooner Zenimax will rush them to get it out on the shelves.

I think a small group of developers should secretly develop it and not even tell the rest of Bethesda about it. Then, announce it after it's 200% done and re-done and tested and overhauled and tested again.

[Eilidh Brian]

I can't wait to see some news, yet I'm not going anywhere. There's more to this forum for me than waiting for the next TES game, and so there's more reasons for me to be here than a dim hope for TES V.

[Stephanie I]

I voted another year or two, because that's when I'm hoping there'll be news, but I could go another 4 without any news.

I REALLY want to see some news on TESV, though. I really do.

[Emzy Baby!]

Does anyone else feel this way? Have you felt this way before?

Yes, in fact I am just plain frustrated and expletive'd off with the total lack of news or anything at all. Right now I periodically shoot angry looks at my copy of Fallout 3, <_<, because it is the reason there is not even a TES 5 on the horizon. :angry:

[Code Affinity]

The end will justify the means, in my opinion. If we don't hear anything for another two years, and don't get a release for four years, but the game is absolutely incredible and exceeds expectations, then i'll be more than happy.

If we get an announcement tomorrow, with a release in time for Christmas 2010, but the game is under par with a lack of depth and polish, then i'll wish they had waited longer for an announcement and taken their time to fine-tune and perfect the game.

I agree that an acknowledgement of the game's existence would be nice, but we've got enough evidence that it's being made as we speak, and at the end of the day... it's the quality of the final product that really matters. Whether they let us know sooner or later that it's in production, it's in production either way. If distancing themselves from the rabid fanbase and giving their developers space is what works best for them, then so be it. I'll be pre-ordering the collector's edition the second they choose to announce.

[Charlie Ramsden]

There seems to be a sense of entitlement floating around. There is no law that says they have to please the fans, no law that says the can't publish games, no law that says they have to release news of TES5. Bethesda doesn't owe you anything.

[Adam Kriner]

I would be really disappointed if it wasn't officially announced by the end of 2010. But I can live with that, it isn't as though I am actually waiting for the game, I have other things to do with my life as well.

[Yung Prince]

There seems to be a sense of entitlement floating around. There is no law that says they have to please the fans, no law that says the can't publish games, no law that says they have to release news of TES5. Bethesda doesn't owe you anything.

I believe everyone is aware that this is the case and I don't believe anyone here has a sense of 'entitlement' in any way. Fans of the series are simply frustrated at the lack of news and are entitled to be so if they choose, it doesn't mean that they believe Bethesda should be catering to them in any way. They are simply fed up with being kept waiting for a simple answer to the question they posed to Bethesda. Is there going to be a TES 5 'yes' or 'no'. Nothing to do with 'entitlement'.

[Albert Wesker]

There seems to be a sense of entitlement floating around. There is no law that says they have to please the fans, no law that says the can't publish games, no law that says they have to release news of TES5. Bethesda doesn't owe you anything.

Todd owes me $1.34, I'll have you know.

[A Lo RIkIton'ton]

I can wait. I' not even nearly done with the old games yet.

Same here. I still need to beat most of Tribunal, all of Bloodmoon, and I haven't even really started Oblivion again in a serious manner.

[Ymani Hood]

Maybe Bethesda just have a really sadistic sense of humour and have already developed tesV but are just holding it back, so if we just quieten down about it they'll release the game.

[KRistina Karlsson]

It's not inconcievable that the reason they have yet to announce anything is because they don't have anything to show, mind you, I'm not saying that they're not working on the game, I could certainly believe that they are, and I do HOPE that they are. We must remember here that after Oblivion, Bethesda also developed Fallout 3, so it's not like Bethesda hasn't developed any new games since Oblivion, so it's not necessarily unreasonable that we have not heard anything new about any new Elder Scrolls games. Still, I hope we hear something soon, if the utter absence of news keeps going on like this, people might start losing interest, maybe I'll stop coming here regularly if this continues (though for now New Vegas probably gives me a reason to come keep coming back, and since I'm currently playing Morrowind I still check the Morrowind mod board to see if there are any new mods of interest occassionally.) though I'll still drop in on ocassion to see if there's any news of an Elder Scrolls V, I think. And while I can wait, that doesn't mean I want to.

I'm sure that once the next game is announced though, even if there's no information on it other than the fact that it will exist and the title, this place will gain a lot of new life, likely there will very quickly be increased activities in both the realm of suggestions and speculations.

There seems to be a sense of entitlement floating around. There is no law that says they have to please the fans, no law that says the can't publish games, no law that says they have to release news of TES5. Bethesda doesn't owe you anything.

Of course there's no law that says they have to please the fans, however, there's also no law saying that anyone needs to give them money if they don't make the games they want. I for one don't give a rat's behind about any of the games currently in development that Bethesda is publishing except for New Vegas. If Bethesda wants to publish games unrelated to Fallout or the Elder Scrolls, that's fine with me, but that doesn't mean I'll automatically care about the games simply because they have Bethesda's name on them. I'm already interested in Fallout and the Elder Scrolls, but to get me interested in the other titles Bethesda is publishing, there needs to be something to give me a reason to pay attention.

And Bethesda still does need to make money, while I'm not saying they're not making money now, I know there are people who would be willing to pay money for another Elder Scrolls game, seeing as I'm one of them.

Maybe Bethesda just have a really sadistic sense of humour and have already developed tesV but are just holding it back, so if we just quieten down about it they'll release the game.

I don't think that developing games, then not releasing them even once they're ready just to toy with fans is a wise business decision, seeing as Bethesda can't actually start making money from the game they invested in until copies of it start being sold, and besides, developers usually like to announce their games BEFORE they're released, and show screenshots, trailers and reveal various pieces of information about the game in order to generate hype.

[Breanna Van Dijk]

Honestly, the sooner they announce it, the sooner Zenimax will rush them to get it out on the shelves.

That. I honestly don't understand why people get so impatient; I find it unlikely that people ONLY play Elder Scrolls games, that in the time between releases they spend years just sitting on the floor and melting. An announcement will just make any anticipation even worse because you'll have a tangible, existing thing to be waiting for, and it will only pressure the company to hurry production in time to meet an arbitrary release date. Perhaps that's WHY nothing is being announced? It's fairly well known that a number of things in Oblivion (scaling, compass, lack of flying enemies) came about because of complaints in Morrowind, and also fairly well known that a lot of stuff that was planned for Oblivion never made it: better AI, political factions, bigger map. If they're actually using this time to make sure they don't "overfix" complaints from Oblivion and get what they want in there with a more flexible deadline, then I hope they keep their mouths shut.

[Beat freak]

I agree with Rhekaird here. Also, a lot of what was weak in OB seemed to have been fixed in FO3. I can only expect an even more superior product from the things Beth learned from FO3 that made it weak, and add some other goodies too. Also, I don't expect the 1 outfit thing, that's a FO3 shtick.

[Horse gal smithe]

i still have a lot of faith that the next installment is, in fact, in production and will probe to be a monumental title.


that said, i have completely run out of things to say about it. i've got a mile-long list of other games that have been announced to keep me busy.

also, with each passing day without an announcement my confidence in the game grows. the gaming industry has become more and more about marketing and advertising in the past 5 years, and i'm more than happy to see a developer keep it's mouth shut and work on the title itself and not worry about any hype-fest promotional events/teasers/exclusivity items etc.

[Smokey]

I can wait. I' not even nearly done with the old games yet.

This is true for me, as well. The longer Bethesda works on TES V, the better it will be, and I'm in no rush because I'm still enjoying the older Elder Scrolls games. A mix of Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, and occasionally Arena is still enough to keep me satisfied for at least a year or two.

[Krystina Proietti]

There seems to be a sense of entitlement floating around. There is no law that says they have to please the fans, no law that says the can't publish games, no law that says they have to release news of TES5. Bethesda doesn't owe you anything.

^ There's one of these in every thread about every highly anticipated games ever. Apologists who have nothing to add to the conversation. They simply wanna shame everyone else for talking about a game they want to come out, while ignoring the fact that, that's the whole point of the forum to begin with.

One Little Nugget of Hope:

I did here that Game Informer's Andy McNamara tweeted this on June 7th:

"Got the cover art in today for the next issue. Giant sequel not at E3, and the art...well, fantasy nuts are gonna crap themselves"

[nath]

^ There's one of these in every thread about every highly anticipated games ever. Apologists who have nothing to add to the conversation. They simply wanna shame everyone else for talking about a game they want to come out, while ignoring the fact that, that's the whole point of the forum to begin with.

One Little Nugget of Hope:

I did here that Game Informer's Andy McNamara tweeted this on June 7th:

"Got the cover art in today for the next issue. Giant sequel not at E3, and the art...well, fantasy nuts are gonna crap themselves"

That has to be TES V. The timing and conditions are all perfect.

[Lyd]

That has to be TES V. The timing and conditions are all perfect.

Dude, seti, this has been all over the forums for the last two weeks. How have you not seen it?

[^_^]

Perhaps "entitlement" is too strong a word.

Fans of the series are simply frustrated at the lack of news and are entitled to be so if they choose, it doesn't mean that they believe Bethesda should be catering to them in any way. They are simply fed up with being kept waiting for a simple answer to the question they posed to Bethesda. Is there going to be a TES 5 'yes' or 'no'. Nothing to do with 'entitlement'.

Bethesda has already told us that http://www.gamesas.com/?showtopic=1029880&, they are making another TES game. By giving us that little "yes" Bethesda did more than they had to. Most companies don't promise sequels and its certainly not something gamers should demand as we do with TES5.

Of course there's no law that says they have to please the fans, however, there's also no law saying that anyone needs to give them money if they don't make the games they want.

I wasn't saying there was. If you don't care about the games they are publishing, thats perfectly fine.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1098102-are-you-annoyed-that-there-was-no-news-at-e3/ (or frustrated, etc.) that there was no announcement at E3. This is not because Bethesda promised an announcement and did not deliver, in fact, they specifically stated that there would be no announcement - twice. And yet people felt like Bethesda let them down by not announcing TES5. Most entries on the blog recieve at least one "yes but where is TES5" comment. Its the expectation that Bethesda owes them something, and entitlement is the best word I can find.

There's one of these in every thread about every highly anticipated games ever. Apologists who have nothing to add to the conversation. They simply wanna shame everyone else for talking about a game they want to come out, while ignoring the fact that, that's the whole point of the forum to begin with.

Theres also one of you in every thread, who feel the need to label people with whom they disagree mean names. I have no idea if you're paying attention to the speculation thread, but I've been posting in it for the past few weeks as much as anyone else. I want TES5 as much as the next person here. I know all the rumors, and I have my own expectation for when TES5 will be announced. What I am adding to the conversation is the point that despite how ever much we want this thing, we are not obligated to receive it.

[edit] in case its not clear, I too sometimes fall into the entitlement camp.