it'll pick up where it ended

hmm i really wonder what beth has instore for us technology wise, i mean look at what happened in fable, and on earth, i mean look at what changed from the midevil times to the rennasaince, and what if Tamriel has a lets say "industrial revolution" and technology is thrown 600 years into the future in a 200 year timespan, all i can say is i hope beth makes very minor changes, or they better pull it off if they jump the tech way in the future. i think 200 years might have been a little drastic in the time change.

You better duck, talking about "technoligical advancement" is dangerous around here, ESPECIALLY when mentioning fable in the same sentence...

But in that sence I'd love to see some technological advancements in the game or, if people keep claiming "It's a magical world, they don't need technology", make the game world REFLECT THAT because so foar it does NOT.

Thats a great question? Never thought about it...though if the game is 200 years after alot or very little could have changed.....its a very fine line...i'd think less would be best for the fantasy part but its a tough idea

Maybe in 200 years, somebody discovered a little bit about the Dwemer technology. I LOOOOOOOVED Dwemer ruins in MW. Going through them left such a mystery... to have only a little bit solved with their technology would be fascinating.

yes the dwemer ruins were fantastic waaaay better than the ayleids ruins of Cyrodil. Maybe they discover what happened to them and while they were gone they discovered different magic and technology... but they may only be apart of morrowind lore i don't know???

i mean the book from what ive heard is only 45 years after OB, that means theres still 155 years to go until the game, and lets say the second book covers 55 years of that time, that still leaves 100 years, and look at what humanity has come up with in the past few decades, for instance look at Daggerfall, DOOM, and duke nukem, and then compare them to Oblivion, and other games today, the technology in just 2 decades has been increasing at a pace so rapid that some software company has already come up with an AI that has the same metal functions and self thinking capability as a cat. so when you look at the time Tamriel has to develop between the second book and TESV alot could happen, or not happen.

Or they start figuring out this stuff themselves. Just because someone discoverd something first does not mean that knowledge is GONE, it's not like there's just one blueprint of it in the entier universe.
Good example, the romans and inca never met, yet both invented complex systems for water management independently.

There's nothing stopping them from developing very simple steam engines or even simple mechanisms.

if youve played the Rise of house Telvanni mod for MW it has a very amazing idea about were they went and how there trying to come back that actually is part of the main story line for the mod.

For sure...i just think for lores sake you don't want to have discoverd gunpowder yet? Maybe advances in metalurgy and maybe the loss of such artifacts as daedric made weapons and gear?

Except for daedric quest make daedric even more rare than morrowind

I'd actually be for gunpowder or a similar explosive to allow bulding simple explosives and bombs. And if you don't like the term "gunpowder" just call it blackpowder, just as valid.

and also look at the fact that daedra can influence the world of mundas, even though not directly, they could still cause alot of things to happen, i mean look at what the mythic dawn did and they did it just because a daedra told them to. so whats stopping them from wreaking havoc on mundas? what if the temple upsets a daeric prince? theres surely goin to be a huge religuos war like the crusades for the holy land, that would greatly change the way tamriel would develop, or what if the daedric followers won the war and that became the new main religion. or if one of the races from akavir decides to comquer tamriel? what happens if the sloads reappear? all of these factors have to be calculated into what will happen in the time period between the book and the game.

EDIT: but why would you need blackpowder when you have magicka that can do so much more, id rather roast my enemies to a crisp then try and blow them up. or in fact why need a bomb when a team of elite mages would have enough power to wipe out a whole town within minutes, without even going trough the gates?

Speaking of technological advances, according to lore there are cannons, at least in Hammerfell. I was playing Daggerfall recently and discovered this in a book in a Mages Guild Library

"Why was the Sentinel army so useless during the War of Betony?
The cannons were too heavy, so all three garbage scows sunk."

And for reference

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Jokes

We don't really need to worry about them going overboard with technology. For one, Todd Howard is awesome, and Peter Molyneux is an idiot.

Technology, so I've read, is tripling itself with each decade. This trend only truly began since around the late 19th century / early 20th. Considering TES has roots that are comparable with the Medieval/Renaissance Periods, which would mean it takes place roughly around maybe the 14th century. I'm no history buff, so don't hold me to this exactly. But I don't think we should worry too much about TES getting too close to COD.

If it does, though, then I'll be customizing my dunmer combat sniper with a scoped M21 and silencer. Maybe a heart-beat sensor if they're included.

but i doubt that its the type of cannon we are familiar with, its probably a device that amplifies a mages magicka when its cast on to it and that amplified magick then hurls the projectile into the air, but thats only a thought.

Because for magic to be effective you need to train, to build a magic army you need to train many.
To lead an attack with bombs you just need people who can THROW them... far easier to get if you ask me. Plus a bomb can put you full of shrapnels.

Also for characters that are NON MAGES obviously.


Ok, sorry but that sounds horribly like trying to "rescue" a point. They probably wrote it back then thinking it's not a big deal to mention cannons but now it just is in there.

Oh and btw. just for the ocasion people may say "It was just a JOKE, it doesn't count", it's in a IN GAME book meaning there must be a concept what a cannon is

good point, the rennasaince was during the 13th century so it was a long time ago, but also look at leonardo da vinci, he created blue prints for hundreds of new weapons and technology and he was alive during the rennasaince, so what if tamriel has a Da Vinci? and also look at the change from the 12th century mid-evil times the the 13th century rennassaince, its only a 100 year change and so much happend, but on the other hand tamriel isnt earth and therefore will not advance like earth, so mabey a great plague happens and almost everyone is wiped out and tamriel has to rebuild. but most of the technology was lost, this is highly unikely but its still a possibility.

Mage: Yay verily, what are these stone archways that hitherto cover this riverway?

Acolyte: I believe 'tis a bridge m'lord, for yon common folk to ambulate the water hazard.

Mage: Do they not know, that one simply needs a spell of water walking to traverse such aquatic terrain? thine stone arches giveth me sore eyes!

Acolyte: Aye, tis a shame m'lord.

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Wait, why are there bridges in TES again? Magic obviously replaces technology in this fanastical world...

To go along with the whole armour discussion, there really should be ways to display your sets in all their glory, like a mannakin that you can place your pieces of armour "in" it, and on the outside it shows the mannakin wearing the pieces.

This whole "200 years" thing is a rumor, you know...quite a few of them have come and gone. Remember the Shadow Realm? We've gone through several pages of stuff that much more belongs in the speculation thread than the suggestions. At any rate, major setting changes like a significant technological advance is unlikely to be something they'd decide based on suggestion. It would be a core decision made when they first start working on it.

good point on the bombs, and what i meant by the cannons was like i said, a thought, just a speculation. and when talking about the future you have to take in to account that everything is a possiblity.

and a very good point on the fact about mages having to be trained, but if youve read Brisngr, the 3rd book in the eragon series, the mages severe the nerve endings of the soliders on the same side as them, making them feel no pain, so the result is fearless soliders, so you dont necessarily have to train a whole army of mages, just enough mages to magically enhance your troops. but your point is still a valid one. and now that i see what you meant by bombs, i thought you meant massive destroy a city bombs not grenade tyoe bombs, i see where your coming from.

there has been tons of mods that do just that, and i think that with the ammount that they are used in mods of variuos typed that beth will probably make manequins in TESV, they have one in the KoTN expansion for the crusader armor.

With the novels coming out and being 40 years after Oblivion and if you've read the first one, setting some big changes all throughout Tamriel if tes5 is 200 years alot has happenened in 40 so imagine 200... that being said it could be 10 years after Oblivion?

yea ithink its time we put this discussion of technology to rest and focus on actual suggestion instead of our ideas and speculations of what will happen.

i was thinking and wouldnt be cool if beth would let us do mundane everyday things in TESV like fish or mabey include something like in MW crafting and let the player build fires and make armors and things.

the books are supposed to brodge the gap between the game and OB from what ive heard so it couldnt be 10 years after OB, probabaly about 5 years after the last book is what i think would be practical. but i wouldnt mind it being 10 years after OB, i hate when games change alot.