There are ways of killing with one's hands. A punch in the stomach/mouth is not one of those ways.

I would like a group of weak enemies to be replaced with a solitary average enemy. And a powerful enemy to be replaced with lots of average enemies. This way you don't end a battle saying "finally that damage sponge is dead" but rather "I just killed so many guys! That was epic!"

Good idea, but it makes it so all enemies are the same level.

Not necessarily, if you were fighting groups of organized troops you would expect an officer to be present in most units or for there to be a rookie among them who behaves slightly differently.

I can't afford a PC to play TES V. Consoles can be serious platforms. They are cheap, reliable, easy to set up, and the only reason I can play Morrowind and Oblivion. The only games I care for anymore are Bethesda games, and I am a hardcoe, devoted Elder Scrolls fan. I've never played the PC versions of Morrowind and Oblivion. We can't all afford expensive PCs, and if the PC truly deserves to have Elder Scrolls games all for itself, then explain why the abomination that is World of Warcraft is for the PC, only. I truly am sorry if I went off-topic and/or seemed to be rude by saying that, but I don't like it when somebody tries to say that I don't deserve to be able to play my favorite games. Consoles are not holding back the series in any way.

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Why would the elders scrolls be changed for pc? it shouldn't the console and pc players should have the same rights. Now if you want to mod the game figure out how to mod it don't complain if you can't mod it well. And for all of those noobs that want it to be better for the pc will just make the game production to be longer stop thinking about your selves and let them do what ever they want to the game this is suggestion thread im not even sure if they really take these post into consideration.

Only in the sense that the TES dev's still can't figure out how to utilize more than one CPU core. :rolleyes: The hardware is a limiting factor. You could probably cobble together a PC with an anologous CPU and GPU (along with other the other bits and bobs) to the xbox 360 for $300 - the price of the console, nevermind the membership fees you have to dole out.

All that aside....

I'd definitely like to see more variety and creativity in weapon shapes. Khopesh, falcata, Kopis, Talwar... stuff from all over the world, not just Western Europe.

I'm not saying that I expect mods to be available for consoles, but I want to be able to play TES V.

Most PC users are ignorant...... they all want the game to be made better for the PC well i play both and i really don't care i hope they don't waste there time modding may make the game fun but it ruins the game...... the elderscrolls was made to be played as its original not by modding the crap out of it so everyone is in ninja costumes...... i mean by all means you can mod theres nothing wrong be take this into consideration that this game wasn't made to be modded so much.

i was replying to Psymon's post not urs

That's not true. The game was made to be played however people want and most PC users aren't ignorant, but when I am told I shouldn't play the game at all, I get upset. Most PC users aren't ignorant and mods allow the customization of games, which is a good thing. One's opinion about how to play a game is never wrong, but when a person says others shouldn't be able to play, I strongly disagree.

Nobody said that you shouldn't be able to play the game on a console. Some PC gamers, like me, just wish that the PC version doesn't get hindered by the console versions.

If mods were ruining the game nobody would download them, maybe it ruins your, but it doesn't ruin OUR.

Rofl i just really said this so people can comment what i wrote on, i like mods i like watching them being use i like to see what people make you take this too seriously try and relax take a break from the PC or something ............

The person I was replying to said "forget consoles", and wanting TES games to be more for PCs is basically saying that I shouldn't be able to play the game, or at least not a good version of it.

I don't understand how making the PC version better, in terms of mods(adding more features for example) hinders the console versions.

That person stated "forget consoles". I've also seen others write that they think TES V should only be for the PC. Also, how do consoles hinder modding?

Abandoning consoles would be a bad thing. However if a feature that would make the PC version better cannot be added to the console versions, they should still add that feature.

I agree. I believe the PC should get controls and menus designed exclusively for it, but so should consoles. More modding tools for the PC would also be good.

Less PC vs Console and more Ideas and Suggestions please. Moderators and Devs get bored with those meaningless 'mah pc iz bettah tan yous svckbox lolol11'.

(Well, thankfully you guys behave better than 'lolol11'; but I'm sure you get the point on where this thread should remain focused on)

Thanks


As for me, I'll chime in a comment I've put in before: Please keep it easy on the levelled loot/creatures/rewards/artifacts.

I don't want level 20 bandits in Ebony Armor chasing me to the ends of the earth; nor rats rushing at me from a mile away every few hundred yards. I want bandits in filthy leathers screaming in terror when they see Hyngvarr the Mighty unslinging his Daedric Battleaxe. Fame and Infamy should be cause for some adversaries/townsfolk to avoid you (or approach you).

More realistic responses from an enemy; and no gameworld that constantly levels with you.

No level 1-5-10-15-20 versions of the same artifact, but the real deal. After all, gamebalance is less of an issue in a singleplayer game, so it matters little if the player finds the Ring of Phynaster at level 3. Make it interesting to explore ancient tombs and caves (like Morrowind), and not with the knowledge of finding meaningless loot in every cave in every chest at level 1 (like Oblivion).

Also, no psychic guards who can sniff you (and everything you've stolen from a different city) from a mile away


Milt

+1

In Morrowind, exploring caves was one of my favorite things to do because I got things that were worth something. They weren't always artifacts, but it made it fun and worthwhile.

In Oblivion, I never eally did it because when I started, I only got crap and it took out some of the realness

More like drink a potion of restore health/pray to a god that likes you/go to a healer/sleep.

It isn't the CONSOLE limitations, it's the X-BOX 360 limitations. PS3 has more harddrive space and RAM than most PC's.


:flamethrower: XBOX

I think that also means less "PS3 vs. Xbox" too. We don't need this thread to be closed again.

Sorry if people read my comments so harshly certainly was not trying to bait or troll.

Please let me give a better take on my position and hopefully clarify. Yes designing the game with the console limitations as the ceiling is going to seriously impair what will be available for the PC. That is what I was getting at. I think, and I may be wrong, that this is what happened with Oblivion (but not Morrowind).

What I'm hoping for is that instead of designing for the console they design for the PC (upper end PC which in a year (after GOTY) will be middle range anyway) and then if need be gimp it for the console instead of the other way around.

The game was obviously meant to be modded (or why else release a construction set), and that Bethesda does allow modding AND they graciously give out their construction sets to make modding possible is amazingly cool. I'd say Oblivion is one of the best games to mod (better than Morrowind and Fallout 3 actually).

I feel for those who have not had the pleasure of playing modded oblivion, but I'm not trying to stop people from having it (how could I anyway) and I did say that there is no way that Bethesda can afford to ignore those profits.

This isn't really an argument that will remain anyway - as consoles get more sophisticated they will be able to do more - the consoles of today are supercomputers compared the atari console with one joystick and one button that I played with as a teenager.

So yes make console games and rake those profits in but do not have the console as the bar - set the bar higher (PC). Further, there is an untapped market for game content that can come from a game that is continually updated - people will buy new content even if it is expansions or even expanded game functions - I'd pay the cover price for Oblivion all over again for a more optimized game engine that used more ram and was truly multi-threaded. NWN was updated for some 7 years after release.

OK - just thought I should clarify that. Not trying to have an argument. Making my suggestion that is all. Once again sorry for any strife that may have caused.