TES V Ideas and Suggestions #154 : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:27 pm

Welcome to TES V Ideas and Suggestions # 154

This thread is for ideas and suggestions for TES:V and to keep all the general discussion in one series of threads.

To discuss major issues, use a separate topic, such as the levelling topic.

Other general topics on this will either be closed or moved here.

Please at least try to read the previous few threads to avoid too much repetition: Note, there has been a lot of off topic and unnecessary discussion in past topics, please ensure that any posts you make in this thread are suitable to the subject being discussed. The moderators will be keeping a close eye on the content.

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» Sat May 28, 2011 8:34 am

also leave the quest system alone people should not be forced to do someting fast or anyting this is a RPG no a life simulator.

The best RPG of the series has deadlines on most quests. That's a part of what makes it the best. The more realistic, the more immersive, the more meaningful roleplaying.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:06 am

Deadlines are good for a game the size of Daggerfall, but when were're talking Morrowind or Oblivion, deadlines are hollow. The overwhelming size of dagger gave emediacy to quests with deadlines, but when the mark is practically over the ridge, and the monsters on the way level with me, deadlines are absolutely, shamelessly hollow.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:47 am

Just throwing this into the cauldron; Daggerfall made you run accross a district for work...

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:41 am

The best RPG of the series has deadlines on most quests. That's a part of what makes it the best. The more realistic, the more immersive, the more meaningful roleplaying.

The best in the series by who's decree? Having time restraints on quests sounds like it'd do more harm than good. I enjoy being able to pick up four or five side-quests, and then take a quick look in my journal to see which one I prefer. Sure, perhaps it'd make it more realistic, but as has been said countless times before; games aren't for realism, they're to escape it. The feature would only end up causing undue stress, it wouldn't add anything actually fun to the game.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:51 am

you know what i would like to see new tech not in making the game but inside the game i don't mean 1600s or somthing like that like small changes not major like early guns and muskets and all of that maybe mechanical stuff etc

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:42 am

you know what i would like to see new tech not in making the game but inside the game i don't mean 1600s or somthing like that like small changes not major like early guns and muskets and all of that maybe mechanical stuff etc

Oh please no, guns I woundn't even mention it, and muskets? who the hell would use a musket againts a plate-wearing, axe wielding, oblivion spawn dremora lord?

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:56 am

Oh please no, guns I woundn't even mention it, and muskets? who the hell would use a musket againts a plate-wearing, axe wielding, oblivion spawn dremora lord?

Ah please mods, could you write that we can't suggest guns in the opening post? In big red caps?

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:58 am

Oh please no, guns I woundn't even mention it, and muskets? who the hell would use a musket againts a plate-wearing, axe wielding, oblivion spawn dremora lord?

Just want to point out that muskets can easily pierce plate, this is why there is no plate armor anymore. But I agree Ayuyu, that discussion leads to bad things.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:32 am

you know what i would like to see new tech not in making the game but inside the game i don't mean 1600s or somthing like that like small changes not major like early guns and muskets and all of that maybe mechanical stuff etc

DO NOT start another gun discussion-turned 3 page long argument, PLEASE.

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:21 pm

When the game comes out i want to see a CS with the game.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:29 am

When the game comes out i want to see a CS with the game.

How's that different to Morrowind and Oblivion?

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:59 am

How's that different to Morrowind and Oblivion?

I personally want to make mods for TES 5. Plus oblivion didn't come with a CS you have to download it.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:36 am

Often in Fallout 3, the voice-acting in dialogue would delay at least a second when you chose a response, or left conversation, etc. This should get fixed.
Make collision detection of objects more precise. It's a bit annoying when you pick up an object off a table and all other objects float up.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:24 am

The best in the series by who's decree? Having time restraints on quests sounds like it'd do more harm than good. I enjoy being able to pick up four or five side-quests, and then take a quick look in my journal to see which one I prefer. Sure, perhaps it'd make it more realistic, but as has been said countless times before; games aren't for realism, they're to escape it. The feature would only end up causing undue stress, it wouldn't add anything actually fun to the game.

If a quest doesn't have a time requirement, it should never be in a TES game. Not worth a damn.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:25 am

Oh please no, guns I woundn't even mention it, and muskets? who the hell would use a musket againts a plate-wearing, axe wielding, oblivion spawn dremora lord?

Everyone. Which is why we don't want guns. Every peasant with a gun could kill the greatest mage or knight with one easy shot. That's why we don't want guns.

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:04 pm

If a quest doesn't have a time requirement, it should never be in a TES game. Not worth a damn.

Now, I don't quite agree with that. Not ALL quests can be timed because not all demands can be met realistically in a time limit. Investigations, pilgrimages, quests for artifacts (although it depends on who is looking for what), etc can not be expected to do things within time limits because of their nature.

Bioshock 2 has given me many things to talk about. I'll leave most of those for later, but I'd like to mention spell combinations. In Bioshock, things all had their purposes and uses. Shock could do tons of damage to enemies in water, for example. Fire could light oil. I'd like to see things like that in TES V.

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:05 pm

I think time scale needs to slow down a bit. In Ob, we have a default time scale of 30. Whole day goes off in less than an hour. I'm thinking around 12~18. I'd also like to see some stores with different open hours. The rigid business time is somewhat inconvinient.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:31 am

Just throwing this into the cauldron; Daggerfall made you run accross a district for work...

Yep, I think we need waaaaaaaaaaaaay more distance between the quest giver and the quest objective.
And without everyone's favorite happy-go-lucky handy-dandy compass, it would actually be challenging.
Oh no, a challenge! We really don't want that! :shakehead:

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:45 pm

No wait i didn't say guns i said no changes which add things like guns just small changes completely miss understood me there

so this is what i said in simple

Small tech changes but not major ones like guns or muskets and when i mean small i mean small like small medieval mechanics

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:53 pm

Yep, I think we need waaaaaaaaaaaaay more distance between the quest giver and the quest objective.

Yes challenge is good but no sense sending you on the other side of the world on a small job. It all has to make sense. If it doesn't, I wouldn't make it that way.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:37 am

speaking of futher quest targets with Assassinations like the Morag tong and my favourite .................i keep thinking of brotherhood of steel lol i forgot there name but back to the point the targets should follow a more advanced routine so they don't do the same thing everyday maybe every 2 days they go to the market or another city or town etc

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:21 am

speaking of futher quest targets with Assassinations like the Morag tong and my favourite .................i keep thinking of brotherhood of steel lol i forgot there name but back to the point the targets should follow a more advanced routine so they don't do the same thing everyday maybe every 2 days they go to the market or another city or town etc

Edit: Sorry for the double post error with my browser

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:09 am

you know what i would like to see new tech not in making the game but inside the game i don't mean 1600s or somthing like that like small changes not major like early guns and muskets and all of that maybe mechanical stuff etc

If I may point something out about this post, Honor-Australia did not even mention guns as an option.

I do not want respawning treasure in dungeons, what's the point of exploring a dungeon if you can just go back later and get what you've sold or lost. When I explore a dungeon I search every corner because I don't want to come back again.

Stephen.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:25 am

Yes challenge is good but no sense sending you on the other side of the world on a small job. It all has to make sense. If it doesn't, I wouldn't make it that way.

Hostage situations, get as far away from the scene of the crime as possible. Stolen goods, same thing. There's probably a few more things justifying moving to the other side of the world.

Stephen.