In Dark Messiah I pretty much just kicked everyone down some cliff, and that wasn't least bit appealing after the first time. No creature flies like that when you kick them with a basic front-kick. And they do nothing to prevent it. Meh.
Actually each melee strike/kick is lethal in FEAR which I mentioned, but it's actually damn dangerous to go that near any enemy! So that's not overpowered, as in Messiah.
In Daggerfall you could kick in doors. And noses. Kicking needs to be in but in a meaningful way.

Like I said, I knew I would get quoted on that so again. I am not suggesting a system like the one in Assassins creed I am merely suggesting that it is a very believable and fairly complex system with lots of options for a number of combat situations and that games with sword fighting would do well to learn from this system this includes TES series

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In Dark Messiah I pretty much just kicked everyone down some cliff, and that wasn't least bit appealing after the first time. No creature flies like that when you kick them with a basic front-kick. And they do nothing to prevent it. Meh.
Actually each melee strike/kick is lethal in FEAR which I mentioned, but it's actually damn dangerous to go that near any enemy! So that's not overpowered, as in Messiah.
In Daggerfall you could kick in doors. And noses. Kicking needs to be in but in a meaningful way.

That reminds me of something. I liked being able to break open locked doors(with a weapon an unarmed) in Daggerfall, so I want that in TES V, but to balance it, perhaps it should be based on one's strength and perhaps magical locks(as seen in Daggerfall) could be brought back to the series.

Didnt play Daggerfall but sure like this idea, just one thing, with unarmed... is that like punching the lock? I dont think that would work very well

I would like to see medium armor aswell as light and heavy. Also a different method of repairing each type. For example.

Also swords to not need repairing so frequently, but they do need sharpening with a whet stone every now and again. Oh and daedric gear should not be so wide spread, it should be very rare and only the very richest people should have access to it, not a lowly bandit!

Oh and joinable bandit and cult factions for evil characters. And necromancy, gotta have necromancy.

I find the repair system in TES games a bit tedious since you are always tapping thing with the repair hammer working out dents. You would fight off a few zombies or a few man and they you'd pull out the hammer, and they you'd fight again....they pull out the hammer. I would far prefer a much more gradual degradation system where you only bang out dents and repair things once a day. Can't it just be a give that if you shield ins a bit 'dinted' you put your foot on it to flatten it out or that if your sword was bit dulled you whet it sharp again. Must there really be a tedious system to repair thing even five minutes?

Because let's all be honest in a dungeon we are all probably pulling out those stupid repair hammers all the time....so why do it? Why does it have to be a tedious system of stopping bring up the hammer in inventory, tapping out the dent, etc. Why can it just be a given that if you have the hammer and you have the skill your armor and weapons stay in 'good condition' all day long? Its not like in MW2 or Battlefield Bad Compnay 2 we're all pulling out virtual rags and lube to unjam our guns. In Heavy Rain we don't pull out a pencil sharpener so that Madison Page can take notes about the Origami Killer. In StarCraft we don't have to complete build orders in triplicate and file paperwork to OSHA to make sure our tank factories are up to code!

There is a lot of stupid busy-work in an Elder Scrolls game that nees to be dumped and replaced with stuff that might be fun or interesting to do. When we make our games as tedious as real life we miss the point of why we play.

Necromancers and bandits aren't necessarily evil. Necromancers were once part of the Mages' Guild and their practice is legal, but in Oblivion, the Mages' Guild betrayed them. I felt sorry for them. Necromancy isn't an evil practice. Studying the dead isn't an evil practice, but rather an educational practice that may provide knowledge about how human bodies work and how to correct problems within the body. Necromancers study anatomy and physiology. Also, bandits, like thieves, may be the poorest of the poor who are forced to do unpleasant things to scrap together a living. Many bandits may be bad people to lazy to obtain money in honest ways, but some of them may have been unable to find any honest work and are fighting for a living in any way they can. Necromancers aren't evil, though. Why be evil just to be evil? They want to study in peace, but they were betrayed, and many Mages' Guild members clearly don't approve of what Traven did to them.

I know the Lore about necromancy, but thank you. I never said that Necromancy specificly was evil, but that it, as well as 'evil' factions, should be put in the next game. I'm just for a LOT more factions that Oblivion had.

In response to the previous posts about evil facitons and evil in general, can we please drop this primitive concept made up for children to tell them what they may or may not do?

Almost nothing in life is evil or good its just shades of gray so please no more of this evil-good stuff in the game. If anything it should be based on opposing factions

Just give me the option to either save the world or let all hell break loose and I will be happy... :flame:

No! The story should be about stopping a threat with morality issues. I shouldn't have to stop hell, again. I should have something more around Morrowind, where there is good in the main bad guy, but he's going about it the wrong way, or he's doing good, but the empire will suffer financially, and they want him to look bad. Considering the emporer is now gone, it's more about the beaurocrats. Also, the guilds should be about money a lot, and there should be corrupt heads.

Just give me the option to either save the world or let all hell break loose and I will be happy... :flame:

I would like it if my character would get wet after getting out of water, or while I'm in the rain. There wouldn't be any gameplay differences, it would just be a nice immersive graphical effect. Unless I'm mistaken, it's not too much development. There would just be drips from me, a wetter looking texture, and my hair may be flatter.

The effect would last 1-2 minutes after I leave water/rain.

Posted 03 May 2010 - 03:31 PM
- A physics based world and characters movement. My character should be able to crawl, creep, walk, run, jump, climb, swing, and grab in the world. All environmental objects from trees to buildings should be made to be climb, leapt over, or walked upon. FINE MAKE IT RPG SKILLED BASED. That’s workable because the skill numbers just mean how fast you move, how high you can leap to climb, and how far you jump. But, the world needed to be based on physics people can understand.

- It bigger world map made to a more realistic scale. I don’t want the whole continent; I just want the map of Skyrim we get to be 8x larger the Oblivion's map. It should take a while to walk from one side of the map of Skyrim to another. No fakery of hiding things with twisty roads or weird hills. The map should be vast, and they should use the procedural tools to help them make the bigger map, and then they go in an tweak small bits and place the buildings, ruins, tombs, shrines, etc.

- Capital city 10x larger...more people, more buildings, more areas

- More logical economy based on finite resources. No more stuff just lying around in boxes, barrels, bins. Very real possibilty of having to pick weeds in the woods to scraqe a few coins at the start of the game.

- Fighters, Mages, or Rogues are DIFFERENT paths with exclusive skills. All classes have checks and balances. There is no blending of skills! A fighter will never wield anything beyond very basic magic or sneak. A mage will never touch metal weapons/armor or have anything beyond low level athletic abilities. A Rouge will never be tough/strong or have the book smarts to cast anything beyond a very basic spell.

- Items in a dungeon belonging to enemies have value to those people/monsters. If you sneak into a dungeon and steal a necromancer’s items (cloths, books, weapons, potion/spell creation tools) then s/he is SOL. The economy is real! They need to get more money; so they can: go into a town, buy more items, and trudge back to the dungeon with the new supplies.

- Dungeons remain clear of defeated enemies for 20 game days. No re-sacking the same dungone every three days. If you've cleared some place out it is EMPTY for a long time.

- Festivities, dancing, civic events that just happen on certain dates.

- Real legal system based on “if” the crime is witnessed, if you were sceene being supspsious, and if the guards catch you if you're a suspect.

- Less weapons and armor that can be recovered and sold (defeated enemies have BROKEN armor & weapons of which only one pieces or NONE may be recoverable) This is part of the REAL economy you will never make much money on weapons or armor...N-E-V-E-R!

- All armor must be fitted by a town black smith (no matter what level you are you cannot fit your own armor). Fitting takes a full forge, full set of tools only available in towns.

- All weapons can only be repaired a set amount of times before “irrecoverable failure”. Before the least two repairs items will be ‘tagged’ as “Worn Out”. The longest lasting weapons will be those bought in a shop since they are new. Weapons and armor are INVESTMENTS.

- Since weapons and armor are no longer easy LOOT...dungeons will have more gold, gems, rare items and antiquities.

- More voice actors

- Relationships (both platonic and romantic)

- More animals in the wilderness, mostly harmless too.

- No danger on well traveled roads, bandits once cleared off a road do not reappear for 20 game days. Roads you clear often will be less and less likley to attract bandits.

- Monsters only appear in truly out of the way areas unless area is under attack. Well maintained road will never have monsters near them or on them. BUT the world in bigger so there are more out of the way places!

- No attempt at a T-Rating ever again. Make it a hard-M from the start

I pretty much disagree on everything you say except

- Capital city 10x larger...more people, more buildings, more areas

- More voice actors

- Relationships (both platonic and romantic)

- No attempt at a T-Rating ever again. Make it a hard-M from the start

but besides those few things you are a complete idiot its a game, maybe a the best game ever and what your suggesting is get turned in to a SIMS based game
if anything there needs to be more animals and monster on the road because i get bored if i want to walk some where and there are no monsters, animals, or bandits and whats the deal with the 20 days thing that's way to long for them to respond
the relationship thing im a little iffy on but thats no a bad idea


... I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CHOSE A DAEDRA AS A RACE!!!

In response to the previous posts about evil facitons and evil in general, can we please drop this primitive concept made up for children to tell them what they may or may not do?

Almost nothing in life is evil or good its just shades of gray so please no more of this evil-good stuff in the game. If anything it should be based on opposing factions

Spoken like a Sith...


As far as repairs go, I would actually like to see a hybrid of the TES and Fallout 3 repair system.

I pretty much disagree on everything you say except

- Capital city 10x larger...more people, more buildings, more areas

- More voice actors

- Relationships (both platonic and romantic)

- No attempt at a T-Rating ever again. Make it a hard-M from the start

but besides those few things you are a complete idiot its a game, maybe a the best game ever and what your suggesting is get turned in to a SIMS based game
if anything there needs to be more animals and monster on the road because i get bored if i want to walk some where and there are no monsters, animals, or bandits and whats the deal with the 20 days thing that's way to long for them to respond
the relationship thing im a little iffy on but thats no a bad idea


... I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CHOSE A DAEDRA AS A RACE!!!

- More voice actors

but besides those few things you are a complete idiot its a game, maybe a the best game ever and what your suggesting is get turned in to a SIMS based game

if anything there needs to be more animals and monster on the road because i get bored if i want to walk some where and there are no monsters, animals, or bandits and whats the deal with the 20 days thing that's way to long for them to respond

... I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CHOSE A DAEDRA AS A RACE!!!

first of awesome reply

second i dont rightfully agree but that depends on how they do it

me personally it think it should stay the same or have a mini game