TES V Ideas and Suggestions # 173 : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:51 am

Welcome to TES V Ideas and Suggestions # 173

This thread is for ideas and suggestions for TES:V and to keep all the general discussion in one series of threads.

To discuss major issues, use a separate topic, such as the levelling topic.

Other general topics on this will either be closed or moved here.

Please at least try to read the previous few threads to avoid too much repetition: Note, there has been a lot of off topic and unnecessary discussion in past topics, please ensure that any posts you make in this thread are suitable to the subject being discussed. The moderators will be keeping a close eye on the content.

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» Tue May 17, 2011 9:14 am

Ahh, first post

well second I guess

Well you may have that opinion so shall i have mine. You need to look at this game also at a market perspective. I mean these people wnat there game to sell. And six always sells.

It doesn't sell when its banned. You don't see porm in the children section at the video store. You don't see AO games next to Super Mario at Gamestop.

Gamestop or EB Games, Future Shop and Best Buy, None of them would take a second look at a game with graphic sixual material. They would reject it outright and it would not sell.

I am, again, not talking about nudity or sixual lore. I am talking about hardcoe animated pormography. It would not sell because stores would not want to sell it.

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:24 pm

I want TESV to be a game that never loses its charm, and there's always a reason to keep playing, like how a lot of people keep on playing MW2, or Pokemon!

» Tue May 17, 2011 4:21 am

Ahh, first post

well second I guess

It doesn't sell when its banned. You don't see porm in the children section at the video store. You don't see AO games next to Super Mario at Gamestop.

Gamestop or EB Games, Future Shop and Best Buy, None of them would take a second look at a game with graphic sixual material. They would reject it outright and it would not sell.

I am, again, not talking about nudity or sixual lore. I am talking about hardcoe animated pormography. It would not sell because stores would not want to sell it.

Yeah, there are other types of games where this type of stuff can go, but not TES, this is a fantasy game that makes us feel like we're kids exploring a magical world full of adventure, adding this stuff will turn TES into:

''GRAND THEFT HORSE: IMPERIAL CITY''

I don't want to ruin the game's charm and how it makes me feel, I mean the House of Earthly Delights in Suran was pushing it.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:42 pm

The house of earthly delights made sense I guess. They just wanted to add something funny to their game. They knew that nobody would get aroused by it. Today though, people can make extremely graphic and attractive characters with computer animation and gaming. Its just a different ball game now.

Grand Theft Horse: Imperial City :lol:

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:47 am

Yes I agree, but if anyone walked into the room where you were playing Morrowind, and you happened to be in that building... It's kind of like Chora's den in Mass Effect, a What The Hell moment (Sit Up and Relax Option :mellow:)

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:35 am

Yeah. I just do not want that nervous feeling of my parents walking in when I have to go into the HoED for the fighter's guild quest. Or into Chora's Den in Mass Effect or Afterlife in ME2. Its just... bad.

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:44 am

I think Bethesda should avoid this in their next game, the Siren's Deception Quest was OK, but don't do some ME or GTA stuff!

Another Suggestion:

Our character should wear different colour underpants on everyday of the week!

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:32 am

Seriously? You don't want six in your game, so no one in the world should be allowed it? Personally, I don't like six or nudity in my games, but when it's a simple toggle to hide the six scenes/nudity, I really don't see the problem. Everyone doesn't have to play to your specifications. It's not even some kind of comprimise. If you don't want it, block it out. :shrug:

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:39 am

Seriously? You don't want six in your game, so no one in the world should be allowed it? Personally, I don't like six or nudity in my games, but when it's a simple toggle to hide the six scenes/nudity, I really don't see the problem. Everyone doesn't have to play to your specifications. It's not even some kind of comprimise. If you don't want it, block it out. :shrug:

You can have a toggle for nudity/no nudity, but a toggle for a six scene or not? It wouldn't be simple, you'd have to make and market the game twice, once with an AO rating for the version containing six scenes, once with a mature or Teen rating for the other version.

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:24 am

You can have a toggle for nudity/no nudity, but a toggle for a six scene or not? It wouldn't be simple, you'd have to make and market the game twice, once with an AO rating for the version containing six scenes, once with a mature or Teen rating for the other version.

What's wrong with blacking out the screen, removing the sound, and shortening the length when it's disabled? I'm guessing that if six is involved, children will be involved. A lot of us would want to have six simply for kids.

Also, Bethesda should stop going for the PG audience. How can you create a realistic working world when there's no dark elements to the whole game? Real life isn't nice and happy with rainbows. Even in a fantasy world.

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:25 am

What's wrong with blacking out the screen, removing the sound, and shortening the length when it's disabled? I'm guessing that if six is involved, children will be involved. A lot of us would want to have six simply for kids.

Also, Bethesda should stop going for the PG audience. How can you create a realistic working world when there's no dark elements to the whole game? Real life isn't nice and happy with rainbows. Even in a fantasy world.

If the game has the option for six scenes its going to get an AO rating. The Witcher took it about as far as you can go and still get a mature rating. No major company is going to make a game that limits its audience that much.

Also whats with thinking six is a dark element? My six life is nice and happy although sadly without rainbows

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:01 am

And when a game gets the rating of AO then video game retailers do not want to sell it. I think that the only exception might have been when GTA: SA got a AO rating. They removed the six and then they got a M rating. Bethesda will never implement pormography into the game. six scenes are fine, though I wouldn't like them in TES, just nothing extremely graphic is all I'm saying.

» Mon May 16, 2011 11:50 pm

If the game has the option for six scenes its going to get an AO rating. The Witcher took it about as far as you can go and still get a mature rating. No major company is going to make a game that limits its audience that much.

AO? :huh:

Here in England we deal with age ratings. (18, etc.)

Also whats with thinking six is a dark element? My six life is nice and happy although sadly without rainbows

Well apparently it is. I mean, people aren't allowed to know what it is until they're 16.

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:52 am

What I meant before is that I do not wish to see hardcoe pormography in The elder scrolls. This is what Azura wanted. I have nothing wrong with naked bodies or six scenes to the point of what Mass Effect and Dragon Age did. I have nothing wrong with sixual clothing or lore. I just dont want to see animations of intercourse and more importantly close up penetration. And actually even though I am an Atheist I think that [censored] houses and prostitution should count as sin.

Azura said: "I want too see six. And lots of it." and "and dont be discriminating. I want lots of kinds of six."

I mean seriously? Could anyone actually have this opinion?

EDIT:

And give me a break guys. I make one spelling mistake and you... ah what ever. Honestly, miners minors... that is one wrong letter.

its one letter that makes a lot of difference..

i had no idea what u were talking about

Well you may have that opinion so shall i have mine. You need to look at this game also at a market perspective. I mean these people wnat there game to sell. And six always sells.

Seriously? You don't want six in your game, so no one in the world should be allowed it? Personally, I don't like six or nudity in my games, but when it's a simple toggle to hide the six scenes/nudity, I really don't see the problem. Everyone doesn't have to play to your specifications. It's not even some kind of comprimise. If you don't want it, block it out. :shrug:

As to the rest of this crap, i personally would rather no nudity at all, unless they make the game in 2-3 years when i move out because if my mom walked in just as a nvde person was on she would flip out plus i would be really embarrassed. Also, if there was any nudity in it i probably wouldnt be able to get the game at all, or at least not for a year or 3 after it came out like what happened with Oblivion. Until i could provide concrete evidence that i could switch off the nudity or that it was changed to M because of a mod allowing nudity or something like that, so i'd rather not just have an option to block it out. So that would be my only problem with nudity, i love the series, the ones ive played so far at least, and would like to keep playing them ASAP, which would only happen if there was no nudity. On a different note, why do u want animated porm? If ur that desperate theres plenty of free porm sites.

Oh and Hircine AO means advlts Only which is basically 18+, and almost no stores will sell AO games, hell, im not even sure what place would sell one

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:25 am

On a different note, why do u want animated porm? If ur that desperate theres plenty of free porm sites.

Why do you want animated violence? There's plenty of movies.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:08 am

AO? :huh:

Here in England we deal with age ratings. (18, etc.)

Sorry, I live in Canada. Here (and in the U.S. I think) we go by "E" for everyone, "E10^" for people above the age of ten, "T" for Teen (13^), "M" for mature (17^) and "AO" for advlts only. You have to be 18 with ID in order to purchase these games. I have never seen an AO game before on the shelves.

Well apparently it is. I mean, people aren't allowed to know what it is until they're 16.

16? Thats a joke right? In grade 2 my class got "THE TALK" from the schools nurse.

» Tue May 17, 2011 4:00 am

imo the game should aim for an M rating. I don't care about nudity, I just want it to be more natural.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:59 pm

Why do you want animated violence? There's plenty of movies.

Come on Shades, don't be like that

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:24 am

Come on Shades, don't be like that

What? Even Pupp knows he made a bad argument.

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:54 am

Shades, do you want pormography in TES 5? I'm talking graphic depictions of penetration in different openings or "holes". 'Cause this is what Azura wants.

Shades, do you want animated violence in TES 5? Speak your mind Shades, and try as hard as you can not to be stubborn. I want to hear what you really think.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:28 am

Why do you want animated violence? There's plenty of movies.

What? Even Pupp knows he made a bad argument.

Bad argument my ass. why do i want animated violence? because i cant go out and shoot someone in the head with a bow, six however is not against the law.
oh all right mankar.

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:04 am

Now that is a good argument. ^^

Lets not insult him now, Pupp.

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:42 am

Well,

First there's the inclusion of six in a game because it's tasteful and appropriate... as in prosttutes in the temples in Daggerfall because that's how temples used to work in the classical era.

Second there's the inclusion of six in the game because nerds want to fulfill some fantasy of having cyber-six with a weird, blue alien.. as in Mass Effect.

Third, there's the inclusion of six in a game just to be obscene and make people say, "OMG Boobies! I can't believe it"... as in God of War.

Personally, I think those are all fantastic reasons to include six and nudity in a video game. Why not? It's entertainment.

Same goes for violence.

Neither is truly necessary. Both are fun.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:19 pm

AO? :huh:

Here in England we deal with age ratings. (18, etc.)

Well apparently it is. I mean, people aren't allowed to know what it is until they're 16.

And Bethesda makes and sells games in the US and elsewhere.
Personally I've got no objection to nudity or sixual elements in games.
My only objection to six scenes is that I can't imagine them being done well.
Bethesda will probably not want to include them because it would be commercial suicide. In the US extreme violence is more acceptable than six. :shrug:
Even the soft porm The Witcher contained had to be toned down for the US market.