No sorry, there should be NO class restrictions, I'd generally prefer to see the entire class system being kicked or at least not mandatory (A class free system would not be that hard if not easier to do anyway).
Guilds should only restrict you by your talents, and NO I don't mean by "your skill X is 2 points too low" but by having you do a initiation test, if you fail you don't get to join.
If replayability is the thing you want have branching quest lines instead so different combinations of guild memberships give you different mission sets AND how you join them differs too. You could for example work as a middle man between two guilds or infiltrate one to sabotage it. Or work secretly for both the same time, for this you'd have to well balance which missions to take so they don't overlap and reveal you.

I like your idea of infiltration and/or secretly working for 2 or more guilds. I just don't like how you can become guild leader for every guild at the same time. I think of it as different "gangs". For instance, you cant become leader of 2 different motorcycle clubs, but you could infiltrate or secretly work for multiples or sabotage others. To expand on that, if you were caught working for multiple guilds you could be removed from 1 or all depending on the negative/positive attention you bring to the respective guilds.

I'm confused as to how the type of ore used in making a weapon effects damage. Why should an ebony dagger do as much as an iron one? Are both not really sharp? Maybe they could have different effects to justify as to why they're more powerful. Daedric and Silver might have the highest enchanting capabilities, but rusty iron might harbor some diseases (Tetanus would be a good one). P.S. Better diseases in general. You got a small stat reduction, so what? You can just get it healed later. If anything, some would be near impossible to get rid of as they are very resistant to a certain magic, while others might be more deadly. Some may just be nuisance diseases. It would be cool if your character actually looked sick, too.

3. Stop cutting skills

Here are my suggestions. Please take them in the spirit of someone that loves the Elder Scrolls series venting the things that have frustrated him mightily in the last half a decade.



1. Stop making the series dumber with every iteration. I understand your main focus is pandering to the casual console market, but I selfishly want more depth, not less. I realize I'm probably wrong for not wanting to play games while lying on my couch covered in chip-dust, but stop cutting things and making things banol. Yes that was an unfair generalization of console gamers and many simply prefer a system that no additional work or expense to keep afloat. But, the general point is entirely valid.

2. Go back to the Daggerfall character creation method or at least in that direction. Its much more interesting, it results in a MUCH MUCH MUCH richer role playing experience and much more character depth. So a few console kids won't be comfortable with some added complexity (probably a few advlts too). It will be a better game. If you want me to EVER believe that "you make the types of game you want to play" stop making them solely for the consoles design-wise. You wouldn't be amiss in adding in some of the political intrigue you used to do well. Or how about this - add an option in the beginning to use "classic character creation" or "Oblivion-style character creation"? I realize this won't ever happen in the next decade for any game due to the group mind rot, but I figured I'd toss it out there.

3. Stop cutting skills and start replacing the things you've cut that add entire new gameplay elements. I know you'll never do number 1 or number 2, but I'd love to see you add back all the skills that were in morrowind, and even some that were in Daggerfall (critical striking, etc). Don't ever tell us keeping a particular skill is too hard. That's lazy and it means "we'd rather ship than get it right". Cutting levitation was lazy and don't tell me that was part of the game you wanted to play because that's bunk. I know all about ship dates. I work in the industry. You're Bethesda, make the time to get it in.

4. Expand on the Radiant AI system as its fantastic, but either cut the voice acting or spend the extra money on a reasonable pool of voice talent. Its immersion-crushing to have the same voice actor talking to you from about 15 different important quest NPCs. Oh, and please stop zooming us in to talk to people. It stops immersion like a hummingbird crashing into a windshield. I know who I'm talking to, you don't need to pull me out of the game environment jarringly to make the point.

5. No more main quest that demands your attention at every step by throwing up Oblivion portals all over the countryside. You cannot roleplay your way around that unless you are playing a specific character type that doesn't give a rip about the world.

6. Stop being lazy with your bestiary and never include monsters/NPCs that level with you in a game again. By Lazy I mean if you don't have enough creatures to challenge higher level characters, make more. I know its a lot of work to create, animate, code and work out the kinks in new game assets. But, its the "correct" way to do things. Even if you need to change model colors and change a creatures stats and call it something else, do it. At any level you should have a chance of running into something that can clean your clock. But, you should never run into a grubby bandit or rat that is higher than level 5.

7. Realize that bears, wolves, and other rational wildlife do not exist to throw themselves at you in a fit of feral rage when you walk within a thousand yards of them. They run from humans for a reason. And don't talk to me about this being a game. Not a single human being enjoyed the "walk 15 feet and kill another suicidal animal" part of either of your last 2 games. I'm sick of having to mod all your games before they are tolerable. Remember the cliff-racer fiasco? Apparently, you didn't. Try to get that one on a bulletin board quickly.

8. I've seen you say over and over that Oblvion was larger than Morrowind. B.S. Morrowind was effectively about 3 times as large as Oblivion. I don't care about what you tell me, I care about how it feels. And even without fast travel from every location in the game, Oblivion felt smaller. A lot smaller. Probably because the game was one big valley that you could see the center of from just about everywhere.

9. Dynamically light objects from a distance this time around. This is just a small request. And no smart-alec comments included. It just felt funny that from a distance, the imperial city and all other cities looked like a crypt from the outside.

10. More quests like Hackdirt. More espionage type quests (not the banol ones, but the clever ones.

11. Please come up with more than 2 dungeon templates. I know that you have limited time. I understand if this one doesn't make it. I even can make rational allowances for why most ruins would look the same, they were built by the same people. But, sometimes you'd see a bandit hideout that didn't look lik every other hideout. Just a thought here, not critical.

I have more, but I need to get some work done on the game we're developing too!

In general, if you make a game that has the following philosophical breakdown:

60 percent Morrowind, 30 percent Oblivion (mostly the fantastic mechanical upgrades), and 10 percent Daggerfall

I'd be one happy gamer.


NOTE: this entire post is my selfish viewpoint. I fully accept that it is probably unrealistic with Bethesda's financial goals and I also understand that my view isn't necessarily right for anyone but me.

I remember only reading about what happened in the video and thinking it was amazing. But only because I thought it was all unscripted.

Fool me once...

-Radiant AI, the entire scene in Chorol was scripted.



I was Wondering why I couldn't find that woman and her dog!!!!

-SNIP-

that's becuase you weren't spending enough time in chorrol I found her and slaugther her and her three dogs with one of those No Gore mods in my Killing spree
her name is Rena Bruiant so if you want to find her stay in the chapel she visit frequently

While I agree with many things in your list (while disagreeing with a few the same time) you posted the EXACT SAME list at the beginning of this thread and just added one more line. At least wait till a new thread starts before reposting, better yet DON'T constantly repost your list but wait till you have a few new things together and then link back to your previous posts.

Also maybe be a bit more descriptive in what you mean at times, short and simple yea but a single word is a bit TOO short.

actually... if bethesda read these threads.. im sure they would rather be reading bullet points than lengthy descriptions. They probably dont even read the ones longer than a paragraph. theres a little advice for you champ.

also I want them to read my ideas hence the reposting of them.

actually... if bethesda read these threads.. im sure they would rather be reading bullet points than lengthy descriptions. They probably dont even read the ones longer than a paragraph. theres a little advice for you champ.

also I want them to read my ideas hence the reposting of them.

They probably dont even read

No I dont think they read these forums at all. They just use this stuff as ideas for the stuff Ma'iq says. They dont care.

Werewolves! And friendly Werewolves once you turn into a Werewolf. Bloodmoon said "Or join the Werewolves and indulge in your thirst for the Hunt". We were alone in Bloodmoon and every Werewolf we can across was hostile, cant they tell we were in the same family? I mean the Werewolves that attacked Skaal were together.

Previous poster mentioned "No Good and evil morality choices" I mean, how can we create a compelling character if we dont have any moral choices? Some of us like to be evil(Although I think evil is a poiint of view)

Here are my suggestions. Please take them in the spirit of someone that loves the Elder Scrolls series venting the things that have frustrated him mightily in the last half a decade.



1. Stop making the series dumber with every iteration. I understand your main focus is pandering to the casual console market, but I selfishly want more depth, not less. I realize I'm probably wrong for not wanting to play games while lying on my couch covered in chip-dust, but stop cutting things and making things banol. Yes that was an unfair generalization of console gamers and many simply prefer a system that no additional work or expense to keep afloat. But, the general point is entirely valid.

2. Go back to the Daggerfall character creation method or at least in that direction. Its much more interesting, it results in a MUCH MUCH MUCH richer role playing experience and much more character depth. So a few console kids won't be comfortable with some added complexity (probably a few advlts too). It will be a better game. If you want me to EVER believe that "you make the types of game you want to play" stop making them solely for the consoles design-wise. You wouldn't be amiss in adding in some of the political intrigue you used to do well. Or how about this - add an option in the beginning to use "classic character creation" or "Oblivion-style character creation"? I realize this won't ever happen in the next decade for any game due to the group mind rot, but I figured I'd toss it out there.

3. Stop cutting skills and start replacing the things you've cut that add entire new gameplay elements. I know you'll never do number 1 or number 2, but I'd love to see you add back all the skills that were in morrowind, and even some that were in Daggerfall (critical striking, etc). Don't ever tell us keeping a particular skill is too hard. That's lazy and it means "we'd rather ship than get it right". Cutting levitation was lazy and don't tell me that was part of the game you wanted to play because that's bunk. I know all about ship dates. I work in the industry. You're Bethesda, make the time to get it in.

4. Expand on the Radiant AI system as its fantastic, but either cut the voice acting or spend the extra money on a reasonable pool of voice talent. Its immersion-crushing to have the same voice actor talking to you from about 15 different important quest NPCs. Oh, and please stop zooming us in to talk to people. It stops immersion like a hummingbird crashing into a windshield. I know who I'm talking to, you don't need to pull me out of the game environment jarringly to make the point.

5. No more main quest that demands your attention at every step by throwing up Oblivion portals all over the countryside. You cannot roleplay your way around that unless you are playing a specific character type that doesn't give a rip about the world.

6. Stop being lazy with your bestiary and never include monsters/NPCs that level with you in a game again. By Lazy I mean if you don't have enough creatures to challenge higher level characters, make more. I know its a lot of work to create, animate, code and work out the kinks in new game assets. But, its the "correct" way to do things. Even if you need to change model colors and change a creatures stats and call it something else, do it. At any level you should have a chance of running into something that can clean your clock. But, you should never run into a grubby bandit or rat that is higher than level 5.

7. Realize that bears, wolves, and other rational wildlife do not exist to throw themselves at you in a fit of feral rage when you walk within a thousand yards of them. They run from humans for a reason. And don't talk to me about this being a game. Not a single human being enjoyed the "walk 15 feet and kill another suicidal animal" part of either of your last 2 games. I'm sick of having to mod all your games before they are tolerable. Remember the cliff-racer fiasco? Apparently, you didn't. Try to get that one on a bulletin board quickly.

8. I've seen you say over and over that Oblvion was larger than Morrowind. B.S. Morrowind was effectively about 3 times as large as Oblivion. I don't care about what you tell me, I care about how it feels. And even without fast travel from every location in the game, Oblivion felt smaller. A lot smaller. Probably because the game was one big valley that you could see the center of from just about everywhere.

9. Dynamically light objects from a distance this time around. This is just a small request. And no smart-alec comments included. It just felt funny that from a distance, the imperial city and all other cities looked like a crypt from the outside.

10. More quests like Hackdirt. More espionage type quests (not the banol ones, but the clever ones.

11. Please come up with more than 2 dungeon templates. I know that you have limited time. I understand if this one doesn't make it. I even can make rational allowances for why most ruins would look the same, they were built by the same people. But, sometimes you'd see a bandit hideout that didn't look lik every other hideout. Just a thought here, not critical.

I have more, but I need to get some work done on the game we're developing too!

In general, if you make a game that has the following philosophical breakdown:

60 percent Morrowind, 30 percent Oblivion (mostly the fantastic mechanical upgrades), and 10 percent Daggerfall

I'd be one happy gamer.


NOTE: this entire post is my selfish viewpoint. I fully accept that it is probably unrealistic with Bethesda's financial goals and I also understand that my view isn't necessarily right for anyone but me.