Hey KC, ST JOSEPH here and no I am not mis remembering it did have that just not to the extent that I described, as I was describing what I wanted to see added at the same time, house Hlaalu stronghold quest had a mine (Shurdan-Raplay egg mine) attached to the quest that was just across the bridge /river next to it that you had to clear of blighted creatures, then you hired miners and guards for your newly acquired egg mine. You can actually look up this quest at " The Unofficial Elder Scroll Pages"

ive been brainstorming on this for a while and i agree enemies should have different battle tactics, some should try and sneak up on you (idk how that'd work w/ third person) and maybe there are killer plant that wait 4 u to get close, and you need to be paying attension to where your going or you'll step on one and itll bite you idk. and maybe a crab that can dig so fast it practically flies through the sand and the only way you can hit it is by sidestepping it and slashing it as it zooms by (or perhaps dropping something in its path). and maybe a sleeping monster that you have to sneak past or it'll wake up and pummel you. and maybe some froglike creature, idk im working on concept art for some of these

Yes I'd like many enemies, including certain NPCs to sneak up on you to attack.
Of course, battle music would have to be reserved for open battle, not for mudcrabs seeing you a mile away and slowly crawling towards you.
This could also add a horror, suspense element to the game, which would be greatly welcomed, and it doesn't have to be intended. For me, the fear of the unknown, of wondering where that monster is hiding, is far greater than the fear of my character dying and reloading a save.

exactly, i almost think that beth should even go as far as to remove battle music alltogether, though i will miss them epic tunes :whistling:

WOW.... Is all I have to say, the game is cool even though I hadn't the slightest clue I was doing for the first 6 hours of the game... Picking locks and stealing crap--sure, it wasn't the objective--it was fun roaming aimlessly.

My buddy liked all that readage that the elder scrolls/Oblivion had with it, I hope they continue that inside the next comming game. I didn't really care for it, Im just a calypso upon that game.

crafting weapons
Not many games have forging inside of it--besides New Vegas--Forging is breaking down materials into the raw components and basically making something unique.
Sure when you look at all the technical stuff that can encumber with it, you could always just do a simpler approach... Using model textures, model shapes, and allow the ability to inter-exchange them. Being able to select different handles, and different shapes of blades/maces/hammers and able to color them. See having those interchangeable parts in a model would allow very small changes and not require massive code and billions of other shapes and sizes of objects.

Witnesses
Everyone has had some type of annoyance with this... No one saw you hit that guy upside the head... Why the big fuss?? Then you have a bunch of ppl flocking accusing you of this and that -- All you wanna do is just say hey, he started it. All better.
This concept can be placed into a context... I think. Because, when you hit someone an they yelp or something other -- A character could run in there and say, "hey, what happen". If you are not very intelligent you could say something like "He STARTED IT!" or if you were intelligent you could say " He went that way, lets go get him!" fooling the witness. Unless your weapon is covered in blood and/or you have it drawn, they wouldn't suspect you.

Better looking races...
Not saying the concepts need work, but the characters themselves could look better. They look like fugly people. The orcs look like they slammed into a wall running and they hit very--very--hard. Them reptillian ppl, kinda look like that some guy loved the geico comercials to much and fell in love with an iguana and... Yea, they just don't really look unique. Each race should possibly do something differently--like those cat ppl can run on all fours; lizard ppl climb stuff or heal/ regenerate magic in sunlight because their cold blooded(?); Orcs just are brutally strong/large.
The concepts are already good but they should look more unique.

Nothing was ever to wrong with the game, but probably should update the graphic engines...

Orcs should look more vicious as their nature implies.

I like the idea of forging weapons. It's pretty likely that it will be included in the next game. But who knows, maybe not. It probably won't be as in-depth as changing handles and blades though.
The witness idea could also be pretty interesting. It definitely has potential, and I wouldn't mind seeing it carried out but I'm not expecting anything like it in the next game.

And I don't have a problem with how the races are in the games. They seem fine to me.

What I've missed in oblivion was knives which you could throw at bad guys if I am an agent I should use something like that, I ain't no robin hood type marksman or something. Speaking about weapons, would be really awensome if you could dual-wield swords, in first person that would be something new, right? What is more, I really missed something like results based on your bad/good actions, yeah sometimes people say something ugly about you if you have a lot of infamy ,but still that's not enough I am speaking about exclusive items, spells , maybe item sets if you are good or bad character, maybe stats add which depends on your status. Almost forgot, the newspapers, it would be so sick to do crimes (like you can in oblivion steal crap from shops) and read about it in the newspapers, or gain bounty and being chased by bounty hunter guild or something. By the way, diseases in morrowind was really good why in oblivion are only vampires? Wheres lycans?

Lycans left when they decided to make all the people look like they have down syndrome and the orcs stopped being bad asses and started being morons.

and whatever happened to the daggerfall wereboars :nope: only bethesda knows, all de can do is hope they migrated to skyrim (or wherever TESV tates place though i hope its skyrim)

Combat Advantage

I was thinking about how to add some more flavor to combat and I figured advantage would be a good thing to add. I am not just talking about skill level, but position (ie, attacking from the side) and elevation to offset either the damage directly or just be an added as an advantage variable. In OB and MW I have attacked and been attacked from the side and blocking was still effective, and that was confusing.

So, as far as implementation I suggest there be two variables added:

player_angle - this would take the facing angle off of the grid system, then when one player attacked another it would act as a zero for the defenders angle. Just for starters a step function inside trig function. Or just bonus values for different sets of angles (front 90, then a smaller 15 degree window, 45 degree window on the sides, 15 again, and 90 on the back)


player_elevation - Maybe take into account player height or maybe not. But the gist of it is fighting uphill is harder. Again player elevation is measured off of a grid and then compared during attacks.

I think I posted in the speculation thread thinking that was this one. Oops. Anyways, I'm getting tired of OB and Fallout and I'm hungering for the next ES. Some of these ideas are great. And Schnell I really like that advantage/disadvantage idea. In fact, taking it a step further, they could implement something similar to Fallout 3 (OF course, I don't want "magic VATS" or guns since neither belong in ES) but locational damage. For instance, I shoot an arrow, this arrow fell short of my targets heart, but it landed in his leg. Immediately consequential of that action, he cannot run, and he now has a bleed/pain effect. Bleed effects are damage over time, and that would only effect those parts of the body likely to contain a large blood vessel, IE: neck. Pain, on the other hand would be more common, since more than likely if locational damage was added, getting a neck or head shot is devastating. Pain would just add a debuff to damage, speed and willpower. But to avoid this being an annoyance, you might have to use poisons, a charge attack, or crafted weapons.

Weapons or abilities that might cause bleeds/pain: Serrated arrows. Poisons. Destruction magic. Etc etc.

I like the idea of enemies bleed to death, but the issue i have with it is that it would need enemies with too much health to work wich isnt good.

We all complained about the lvl scaling in oblivion making monsters have a huge amount of health, and it would take too long to kill a monster, but if we want creatures tha needs 3-5 slashes with a blade to die, then why do we even need′"bleed over time?"

Not that I dont want the system, but I just want it to be perfect.

One more thing with Advantage, it would work well with blessings, birthsigns, and abilities. So even if someone strikes you from the back your advantage might be higher than theirs, and so the damage does not get the extra multipliers.


Also location and bleed damage seem, for the most part, unrelated to an advantage system.

I would like to see entomological (bug-like) enemies. And I don't mean 5 feet ones, I mean like swarms (1 hit would kill a good portion of them).

I think that would definitely be cool to fight, but something like an insect swarm seems like it should be immune to arrows, slashing weapons (blades) and only really take damage from magic or swatting melee attacks.

And how cool would it be if you cast a freeze spell on a swarm of insects and they all dropped like little pellets of ice? That would be pretty stellar.

Magic should come in more forms rather than just a ball.

i believed someone mentioned b4 that the greater rewards need to come for doing bad things, and i concur with that, but also small good things need to happen to a person when they dont take the bad path (i. e. an animal may choose not to attack you, or a rendom person may choose to rush to your aid in battle, random people giving you supplies as you walk through town, and of course people praising you as you walk by them for your good deeds)

They really should improve magic. Possibly something like Two World 2's magic system. Check it out if you haven't seen it. You can do some amazing things with it.

How so? Would it not be an advantage to make an enemy bleed or writhe in agony? Impeding an enemy in any way is an advantage. Helps an archer to slow an enemy down, since strafing can waste valuable arrows, and anyone who runs up to an archer is immediately more dangerous.

Wouldn't that also be great for quests? You could force information out of someone, or even fufill revenge on someone.

Yeah, having choices to torture and maim would make playing evil characters far more diverse and interesting. Comparatively, it could make playing characters who specialize in magic, specifically Restoration more useful, as they could actually use their spells to aid, or soothe friendlies. It just so happens people tend to take kindly to someone who will save their lives in a fight or from a disease or wound.

Yeah, there could even be a skill to help prevent people from torturing you or something. Just imagine getting caught by a gaurd and being tortured because of something extremely evil you did.

Or instead of just blocking once you become a master with a certain class of weapon you could counter attack.

Sweet idea. Speech abilities would be great here too. You could talk your way out of traps, since it is plausible you could be caught at one point or another.



Good idea. The only issue is there is a sort of counter-attack, but its repetitive, when someone goes if for a heavy or power hit, if you block it you have a chance of knocking them back (lower fatigue means you can get knocked back) and knocking back someone is great for counters.