[latrina]

Welcome to TES V Ideas and Suggestions # 162

This thread is for ideas and suggestions for TES:V and to keep all the general discussion in one series of threads.

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[Yonah]

Have you played any STALKER game? Noticed how boring it is to read the conversation text?

You are talking to many people who are not so into spoken dialog. I started with MW, and I am also pretty big on text. Not going to say spoken is worse than text, but spoken dialog is the first thing on my list to cut; to save disc space and increase general dialog.

[Lynette Wilson]

i hope like in oblivion stuff does no fail ,like making poison,casting spells and fixing armor/weapon.

[Miragel Ginza]

You are talking to many people who are not so into spoken dialog. I started with MW, and I am also pretty big on text. Not going to say spoken is worse than text, but spoken dialog is the first thing on my list to cut; to save disc space and increase general dialog.

I loved Morrowind's dialog, but I am also an avid reader. Perhaps there should just be much less dialogue, (I.E. Most NPCs are too busy to talk to you besides during quests)

[Bitter End]

i hope like in oblivion stuff does no fail ,like making poison,casting spells and fixing armor/weapon.

I personally hope they bring back the fail chances, but raise them so you don't fail as often as MW but it can happen. I liked the concept in MW but it gets frustrating when you're a mage and your primary attack spell fails three times in a row in combat...

[Len swann]

Could the blacksmithing skill include making armour and weapons out of ore. Smithing skill means you can make things out of higher quality ore and obviously iron ore would be alot easier to find than ebony or glass. I personally wouldn't allow users to create daedric items because I think they should be special and hard to come by like in MW.

[Celestine Stardust]

I liked Oblivion's system of perks, so that you cannot cast a spell until you reach that level (I mean Journeyman, Expert etc. spells)
I hope that idea remains. But if there were actual perks for the magic skills, as with other skills, rather than just "You can now cast these spells", that would be good.
Things like frost spells with the chance to freeze, shock spells that cause spasms, fire spells that ignite them for a time (all chance, like the masteries for combat)

[Celestine Stardust]

I liked Oblivion's system of perks, so that you cannot cast a spell until you reach that level (I mean Journeyman, Expert etc. spells)
I hope that idea remains. But if there were actual perks for the magic skills, as with other skills, rather than just "You can now cast these spells", that would be good.
Things like frost spells with the chance to freeze, shock spells that cause spasms, fire spells that ignite them for a time (all chance, like the masteries for combat)

And when you reach grandmaster destruction, steerable projectile spells!!! Yay!

I think perks like this should apply to all the major class-areas, otherwise Magic would become too overpowered and warrior and stealth classes would become pointless.

See this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4uP1YSTovs for ideas of what they could be.

[bimsy]

RE: Voiceactor quality from the last thread: they need to ditch the redguard and elf female VAs and Linda Carter is what they need to do, everything else is passable-to-good.

And god help bethesda if they don't bring Ralph Cosham back.

[Sxc-Mary]

Could the blacksmithing skill include making armour and weapons out of ore. Smithing skill means you can make things out of higher quality ore and obviously iron ore would be alot easier to find than ebony or glass. I personally wouldn't allow users to create daedric items because I think they should be special and hard to come by like in MW.

Roll this with the equipment quality system I mentioned in the last thread, and I might actually be interested in taking Armorer as a skill.

Plus it'd be a good way to get rid of all the crap weapons and armor you pick up after a dungeon crawl, melt 'em down for raw resources and make something better from 'em!

[Strawberry]

I liked Oblivion's system of perks, so that you cannot cast a spell until you reach that level (I mean Journeyman, Expert etc. spells)

I'd personally like them to go with more of a middle road between what Oblivion did and what Morrowind did, in regards to the magic skills.

Basically, what I'd like is, instead of gating your ability to cast a specific spell by skill level, have skill level gate your ability to cast specific spell types. As an example, let's say your character is an novice of Destruction; at this level, you can cast a touch-range fire spell, and you can cast that spell at any strength, although the more powerful it is, the greater the chance of spell failure. However, the weakest projectile fireball spell might be an apprentice or journeyman spell, so you couldn't cast that spell at all until you reach that skill level. The in-game explanation being that once you learn the basics of a spell type at the proper skill level, then casting more powerful versions is just a question of personal strength, and thus something you can do, albeit with a chance of failing.

I just think that "where you could only cast a Fire Touch spell, you can now cast a Fireball spell" sounds a bit more profound than "where you could only cast a 15 point Fireball, you can now cast a 25 point Fireball", and would make leveling up a magic skill feel like a bigger deal.

[JERMAINE VIDAURRI]

I just think that "where you could only cast a Fire Touch spell, you can now cast a Fireball spell" sounds a bit more profound than "where you could only cast a 15 point Fireball, you can now cast a 25 point Fireball", and would make leveling up a magic skill feel like a bigger deal.

Agreed and in my opinion this system would support the unlocking of spells at certain skill levels rather than the purchasing as this would one again give a higher motivation to level up because it seems more realistic.

[Doniesha World]

snp

I agree completley. Give me a second and I'll dig for my Magic ideas somewhere in my massive suggestions list.

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Spells

Collision damage through telekenisis, as well as like... hurling people into walls.

Conjuration should be able to summon food, water, other liquids, creatures, weapons, furniture, etc.You should be able to place a 'mark' on items, and 'recall' them when needed. Also, you should be able to have up to three different Mark locations at once as well as recall on target (so your companions can follow you)

Locking stuff , like in the old games, just didn't have any use. you were the only theif. Locking would have been awesome if there were other people with AI telling them to steal.

ADD NECROMANCY. I wana bring back permanent zombies.

Spells should be sold by effects/clusters of effects (By which I mean Fire damage and weakness to fire could be part of the same spell). the potency should depend on your proficiency with that type of magic. However, if you held down the 'cast' button, your spell should be more powerful although more likely to fail. Different spells would be marked "long term, and holding as such would increase time. Long term spells would all drain your magica for the entirety of the spell, although barely (3 points fire damage for 1000 seconds would be almost unnoticeable on your magica bar) The options for spells would be on touch, on Target, On self; area; and instant or over time.

[Liv Staff]

To continue the magic perks thing...
Learning touch, target, area effects, and timing could be the novice, apprentice, journeyman, and master perks. Though I hope that it does not follow the "magically granted" 25 lv increments like OB. If all of these things could translate into spell failure, then a novice casting a 30s fireball on target in 50ft would not have a scripted cap, it would have a natural one. Where at lv 1 you have a 1% chance to cast the fire-palm of doom, and at level 25 you have a 99% chance to cast the fire-palm of doom, while in both cases, you have the small 1% and 5% chance to cast the fire-ball of doom.

As for trainers. If you could learn the touch, target, area, and time functions of the destruction from the trainers, at say level 5 in destruction, then your ability to cast a weak fireball for 2s in 5 feet is much greater than before, but still not even close to casting the 30s fireball in 50ft.

[claire ley]

Good idea :thumbsup: at skill-level 25 you have a 100% chance of casting a novice spell, but perhaps a 15% chance of casting any other spell (I'll give five percent to luck and ten to the attribute)

[Emma Copeland]

Imagine (if you will) a VATS system in TES5. You aim an arrow at a part of the body you want to hit... you see the %age you have of hitting it, then fire away... and then you're treated to a cinematic shot to the arm. If fatal, the arm gets ripped off. Same with dealing magic. Casting a fireball in a VATS-like system, to see your enemy get set on fire. The same way the shiskabob does it... Only in the next ES game. And for all of those people who don't want to use it, simply don't hit that button.

Also, we need something to really simplify decorating your house. It's SO incredibly tedious to set up a bunch of staves, just to come back later and have them fly around the room. I really liked the idea of that trophy room from that last dlc on Oblivion, although I never got to play it.

[Lew.p]

I personally hope they bring back the fail chances, but raise them so you don't fail as often as MW but it can happen. I liked the concept in MW but it gets frustrating when you're a mage and your primary attack spell fails three times in a row in combat...

nah mage characters should have the right to use spells whit not failing like how melee ones use a weapon and the only way of failing is evading for real.that why they gave in the begging a basic fireball spell in Oblivion so mages can start using magic from the beginning. fail chance

but alchemy maybe make a chance of failing if you don't have the equipment .

[Mrs shelly Sugarplum]

I feel like VATS can stay with Fallout, but if Bethesda can pull it off why not.

And just a heads-up, your may get some heated posts against VATS in TESV...wait: v a t s -> t a s v... 5 bucks says TESV will actually be, "The Alder Scrolls: V"

[Melung Chan]

VATS was in Fallout 3 because of the Pip-Boy you wore on your wrist. You don't have a Pip-Boy in TES, so if VATS was in, it would have to be from magic, so it would likely have to be from a spell and because of that, it wouldn't last an infinite amount of time like in Fallout 3. Which would be a good thing. I feel VATS should stay in Fallout but if they did it right it could work in TES.

[Jay Baby]

VATS was in Fallout 3 because of the Pip-Boy you wore on your wrist. You don't have a Pip-Boy in TES, so if VATS was in, it would have to be from magic, so it would likely have to be from a spell and because of that, it wouldn't last an infinite amount of time like in Fallout 3. Which would be a good thing. I feel VATS should stay in Fallout but if they did it right it could work in TES.

or make it exclusive to the wood elfs

[Chloe :)]

VATS was in Fallout 3 because of the Pip-Boy you wore on your wrist. You don't have a Pip-Boy in TES, so if VATS was in, it would have to be from magic, so it would likely have to be from a spell and because of that, it wouldn't last an infinite amount of time like in Fallout 3. Which would be a good thing. I feel VATS should stay in Fallout but if they did it right it could work in TES.

That's what I was thinking.

[ijohnnny]

or make it exclusive to the wood elfs

Pehaps call it the Thu'um and only give it to Nords. (sarcasm.) Why wood elves?

[Georgia Fullalove]

Ye' Old V.A.T.S.

[Amysaurusrex]

VATS was just a thoughtless concession to turn based combat.
Nothing specific to the Fallout franchise. It's targetting, after all.

[victoria gillis]

With all the discussion of player skill vs character skill what would be so bad about VATs? Sure, like has been said, it wouldn't be called VATs, and there would be differences, but as has also been mentioned it's just a more intense form of turn based combat