From his cue about there just being snowy mountain tops in Skyrim, I figured we were making strange unsubstantiated statements in this thread. I was just having him on. The only description I've seen of the terrain in Summerset makes it sound like Oblivion's climate.

The island has idyllic orchards and clear pastures, still and silent lagoons, misty woodlands, and the unique Psijic architecture that seems to be as natural as its surroundings.

So the buildings look like orchards, pastures, lagoons, and woodlands. Or something natural looking like that.

Ah, that had occurred to me but I just wanted to make sure.

Cool. Summerset isle seems a real good place, will definetly get my vote for TESVI. My mind is firmly set on Skyrim next though. Valenwood seems similar to summerset isles as well, except erm.. it has a city built on a huge tree that walks.

I would prefer that it not be in Skyrim, since we had Bloodmoon in Morrowind and Bruma in Oblivion. Nords and snow have been featured enough lately, and I say that as a Nord fan. But hey, I'll play TESV no matter where it's set.

Yes I can definitely see how going from a continent to an island is a vast improvement for a game that's supposed to be larger and more detailed than the last...

I dont think the game is intended to be larger - if anything, the areas seem to get smaller.

Isn't Daggerfall > Morrowind > Cyrodill (Oblivion)? And Arena being Tamriel > all?

Though theres no question about level of detail...

It won't matter how much detail there is if there isn't much to do with it.

Cyrodil is bigger than morrowind so that anolysis falls apart. It doesn't feel as big because of how far you can view as well as the fast travel. Play morrowind with MGE with unlimited draw distance and see how small Vvaardenfell really is. I don't mind either way. I'm fine with Skyrim, Black Marsh, Summerset isle, and Valenwood. I'd prefer the last three but Skyrim is okay too.

Not only that, but a BIG chunk of Cyrodiil is just wilderness with nothing there. In Morrowind there were cities and important places (or places with artifacts and such, quests) all around, and with the foyadas, often was your route detoured because the borders were way too steep.

Completely agree but still. The game isn't getting smaller in each iteration.

Summer Set Isles really people? I think that it will not be there oblivion everyone expected it it did not come it won't this time and I want to wait so they can do it perfectly. That and who wants to deal with racist high elves? I do not at all?

Btw anyone else hate their [censored] ass hole parents???

Plus how many races would you expect to find in the isles anyway?
Also who's parents are we talking about our real parents or the altmer's parents?

We know it likely won't be ES5. The question was. "What did you want ES5 to take place in?" Not "Where do you think it'll take place." Most people want to see Summerset Isles. Thing is we went from a very unique fantasy world to a typical one. Nothing wrong with that in my eyes. Cyrodill was beautiful. I love the setting but to me Skyrim doesn't seem that.. exotic. People want exotic now. Summerset Isles seems that it'd have exotic locales with the nature like buildings etc. Many wish we'd have an exotic locale before a more typical one.

The isles seem more like dlc rather than a full blown game.

DLC for an entire area? Solstheim was a full blown expansion and it was an entire island that's much smaller than Summerset isles.

Yeah and the shivering isles was said to be roughly a quarter of the size of cyrodiil which is no small pigeon.

LOL Real man. Just wondering if anyone is harrassed as bad?

Truthfully I believe that Elswyer and Blackmarsh would be too...undeveloped of provinces to host the game, as well as being dominated by one race. Summerset Isle and Skyrim both are developed and, frankly I at least would believe that they have a more diverse amount of races.

Would it be too much to ask for the next game to include ALL of the Provinces?
Possibly bringing closure to, and ending the series?
I love the elder Scrolls Series, but all good things must pass, and Bethesda is headed in a darker post apocalyptic direction. Fallout 3, Fallout: New Vegas, and now RAGE.
My concern is that this will seep into, and pervert the pure fantasy setting of The Elder Scrolls series.

Are you serious? we have no information on the summerset isles let alone what races inhabit it atleast with a place like black marsh we have a little background on it I can't say much about Elsweyr though, also black marsh is said to be a very hostile environment which could make for a bit of a challenge plus much of Vvardenfell was undeveloped.

Yet Summerset isle is bigger than a "Quarter" of Cyrodill and also Shivering isles wasn't a dlc. It was a full blown expansion. Dlc are things like KoN and Wizard's tower. For those who say "Such place is too dominated by one race" No it's not. Morrowind was dominated by dunmer but there were still other races. 90% of the npcs you ran into were dunmer but you can do the same in black marsh. 90% of the inhabitants will be argonians for instance.

Also to the whole "I wish all the provinces were in" I don't. Daggerfall was a decent game but everything was too generic. You can't have everything on an engine like Gamebryo without downscaling everything severely. I like how they focus on one province at a time and why does the series need to see a close? Realize so far we've been on the same continent. Tamriel. We haven't been to the rest of the continents yet and there's still many provinces to go before it becomes redundant. Also there's no need to close TES when it's the only open sandboxy rpg out there. It has no competitors.

On top of that they didn't make New Vegas. Obsidian did. They only made FO3. They PUBLISHED New Vegas. Likewise, they didn't make rage either and rage was developed by ID Software. Again, published by Bethesda. So the only apocalyptic game made was Fallout 3. So where are you getting that they've been moving towards dark apocalyptic?

Ok, you got me I slipped on a minor detail let's call for an execution but I still stick to the isles not being big enough to make a proper RPG.

The Summerset Isles are bigger than Vvardenfell.

I'll give you that one, but it still doesn't account for just what occupies the space given and diversity is key in a good rpg and we all know the altmer aren't exactly the welcoming bunch.

Neither were the Dunmer. Calling you outlander, being told constantly that you're being watched, called scum by the guards, insulted. Being constantly greeted with "Say what you want and go away." and more. In morrowind there was only really one city with a bunch of towns here and there. It was a great RPG and many fans hold it the best in the series. Personally I find Oblivion and Morrowind to be equal. That being said, there's plenty they can do with Summerset Isles and they can make it a great RPG just as they did with Vvardenfell. In fact, they considered making the third game set in Summerset. Everyone was expecting summerset but boom. It was Vvardenfell instead. People were iffy on it but it turned out great. As I've stated. I'm 25/25/25/25 on Skyrim (though I'd prefer a more fantasy esque environment but it's fine.), Valenwood, Summerset, and Black Marsh but if you're worried about size and it's larger than Morrowind, then what's the real problem?