Basically, everyone is going on about things like voice acting and having the game now. However, would it be better to wait a while longer, so that the development team can have more time to 'play around' with the new game and its features. Because, surely, if they spen longer on it, it will be, overall, a better quality game. Then again, though, we are all getting a tad upset that time and time again, our hopes for E3 etc reveals are dashed by the company we love so much!! What do you think??

Feel free to post any ideas, but try to be constructive with the criticism. I don't really want to be breaking up any fights in the near future; it would waste time that i could be using to think about how they could improve the next TES game ;P.

Also, any suggestions on improvements will be accepted!!!

Enjoy!

The reason there's topics about voice acting and gnereal suggestions is because we want to get our opinions out before it's too late. A lot of these ideas are about gameplay (although a lot are awful), and must be added into the engine before design.

TESV should wait as long as is needed. I would rather have a game that tops Morrowind (my favourite) in 5 years time than a shallow piece of rubbish tomorrow.

Yeah like Hircine said, the Devs occasionally read these threads and we want them to know what improvments the commuity generally wishes to see. In response to your original post OP, it doesn't really matter as we are going to have to wait anyhow

Only now I began to think about it... And I think I support the idea. It will be much better to wait years for an epic game than wait months for a trash.

At least this thread's making an impact on some people

Good choice for reading :L

I really can't make up my mind about this. Do I want TESV ASAP, or do I want them to wait and make a frontrunner-game when the new generation of consoles arrive...?

Life's packed with big questions and dillemas.

But as long as we do get TESV, I will be happy.

TESV is probably at least a year away after the announce it, and I would be surprised if it was closer to years away from now. "TES V now" is not something that is going to happen. People seem to have jumped from 'initial announcement' hype to 'release hype'.

Don't forget, Oblivion was announced in September of 2004, and didn't release until March of 2006, about a year and a half later.

Shot in the dark guess; look for TESV in late Q1 of 2012.

Get your expectations adjusted to something approaching the real world or be a victim of your own hype.

I would like for them to announce it sometime soon and reveal some of the key features they plan on incorporating, and then to make it clear than the game will not be released until it is ready, which will be a good x years/months from now. That way we know it's coming and we have some things to talk about, but we know not to expect anything for a while still. If they just came out of hiding long enough to say,

"TESV: Skyrim is coming. There will be several new skills as well as a few skills that were absent in Oblivion, but TES veterans may recall from past games. The game will feature 10 joinable factions, each with hours of unique storylines and plenty of additional tasks. There will be over 1500 NPC characters and an overhauled disposition system, making interaction in TESV a completely new and revolutionary experience. Here are a few concepts and one screenshot from an early alpha build (pictures included). Please understand that the game is far from ready; the current target release date is Q2 2012. We will not be revealing more information about the game until 2011. Enjoy."

That would make me ecstatic. Or anything remotely similar to that. I don't mind waiting for the game itself; I just want to know it's coming and to know a few things about the game, so I know what I'm looking forward to.

i wouldnt say now maybe next year or somthing, but like d4rk said id like some clarifacation on the subject i hate all these rumors ect if thay said thay are making it id be happy with that, but thay dont and i personally feel abit let down by bethesda because thay seem to become distand on the subject of the elderscrolls, but thats their choice atm im more intrested in bioware and thats after what thay did to kotor, iv got fallout but all these games thaya re bringing out im not intrested in, im just going to be another bethesda fan who decides 2 leave them, look at other companies due to being let down, alot of people here still have dreams of tes v but for me its just slipping away thay seem to have no intrest in tes anymore.
and it is a shame cause i love bethesda best company or was. p.s all im sayin is bethesda atleast get rid of this feeling of neglect and atleast give us somthing, every year a rumor flys about and it fails this year 2 have flown about at e3 and game informer. major let down

I doubt any TES game, even if slightly rushed, would be garbage but even so I don't mid waiting a couple of years for TES V as long as it is truly epic. I think mostly we just want a confirmation that TES V in going the right way and in develpement (a light at the end of the tunnel so to speak). And after that we'll wait some more :ninja:

I'm willing to wait as long as it takes.

This, a thousand times this.

edit: some screen shots would be nice too :thumbsup:

Oblivion brought in a whole slew of new fans to the series. For those of us that fell out of our chairs when we heard the news that Oblivion was coming, we didn't mind waiting the 18 months for the game. What happened though was that our expectations got raised to unreachable heights, and the anticipation about killed us! We were given glimpses of these amazing shadows as well as this amazing radiant AI... it was too good to be true! Which in fact turned out to be the case... I think that perhaps Bethesda wants to correct the errors of the past and show us something only when the release is much closer than 18 months out. It will also help with the new fan-base which brought in a slew of gamers who enjoyed the player skill elements that most FPS or Action games bring, and those types of games typically churn out sequels every year or two. This will help them be equally hyped without losing interest.

As long as it takes, I want this to taste good when it comes out of the oven, not undercooked. Or overcooked for that matter

leave them be, i'd rather wait ten years for an awesome tes: v than 10 months for a mediocre one

That's true, though I suspect that, if the game is in development, it might already be too late to make major changes to the core gameplay mechanics, though since we don't even know if it's in development or not, I can't say that for certain. I'd imagine that the basic engine and core gameplay would need to be completed before they could get to things like designing quests and locations.

But regardless, since the game has yet to be announced, it's impossible to say how far it is in development, but if Bethesda isn't ready to announce it yet, that probably means it can't be in any condition to be ready for release, I believe. So yes, we need to wait, how long should we wait? I don't know, but we can't expect to get the game now.

Now, I want another Elder Scrolls game as much as anyone, but I can wait, there are other things I can do with my time while I wait, such as play other games. And I realize that if Bethesda rushes to release the game before it's ready, the end result will, at best, be game that's incomplete but still entertaining, and suffers from many bugs, unpolished game design, and maybe even content that was cut because there wasn't enough time to finish it. It could also end up having all the bad things I mentioned but also fail to entertain. So I'd rather Bethesda take whatever time is needed to produce a game that will be satisfactory to players. Now, I also realize that Bethesda can't delay the game indefinately, nor would I want to, the developers need to, at some point, just decide that they want something specific in the game and go with it, sure, maybe there are ways in which the game isn't quite as good as other games, but if the developers keep trying to add more to the game, without settling on a plan and sticking with it, and don't release it, we get something like Duke Nukem Forever, so Bethesda still needs to release the game, they should just what time is needed to ensure that when it is released, it won't dissappoint.

I do hope we at least get an announcement soon, though, I can wait for the game, but it would be nice to at least get some assurance that the Elder Scrolls series is still going.

It will be done when it is done, or when business decisions dictate that it needs to be "made done". Bethesda's not going to let development drag indefinitely. Therefore, they aren't going to pay attention to this thread, but rather to "the bottom line" when making all decisions. Maybe not a popular reality, but one that works as far as ensuring there are future TES games.

Bethesda does listen to their fans suggestions. Just look at the differences from Morrowind to Oblivion to Fallout 3. All of those games fixed or changed a lot of what the fans wanted fixed or changed.

Wait, do you mean this thread as in in terms of announcements and not suggestions? Ugh, I'm stupid. :facepalm:

I say they should release it in 2014 A.D. as I, along with tons of other people, are busy modding Morrowind and Oblivion. Besides, my computer svcks right now so I probably couldn't run TESV any ways. lol

They can spend a little more time on TES VI. Say 'no' to feature creep people, look what happened to Vista.

What's feature creep?

Basically it's continuously adding new features to a program. Like changing graphics engines to get better graphics or adding extra stuff to combat. Making the AI able to do more things. See, in the end it'll make the game better, but if you keep adding stuff, the game will never in fact be complete. Like Duke Nukem Forever.

Oh.

A bit of both, really. Mostly that release dates will be business decisions, and being told "Take another two years" by us is a non-starter.

The best evidence of Bethesda being responsive to fans is Point Lookout. People wanted "exploration", and they got it. I wouldn't say anything in FO3 can necessarily be attributed to fan reaction unless it's a clearly new mechanic borrowed from TES.

However, I'm relatively sure that every indication Todd Howard has given in an interview has implied that he's looking at the big market for guidance on the core gameplay, at least moreso than here. Our opinion is heard, but it's never going to outweigh "making sure as many people as possible can have fun". Our biggest "influence" is more than likely the crazy ideas that spring up when we argue. Even then, Bethesda isn't going to take orders like a bunch of good soldiers. What they will do is go "check this one out! That's a wild way to look at enchanting.", and do what they do. Discuss, compare, etc.

I mean, you sell millions of copies of the game. Do you listen to the millions, or the thousands that argue in your forums?I just don't see where they're going to drop full voice acting or fast travel because of forum poll threads I'd be willing to bet that they'll take care of things like "making ships roll" and "people should sleep UNDER their covers" that we bring up before they'll use a forum poll to affect core gameplay mechanics.

Example: level scaling? I'll pretty much bet a copy of TES V that it stays, but with the randomization mechanics altered to ensure the "low chance" outcomes "drop" more often.

I guess what I'm saying is "Bethesda is going to design the game in response to personal experience and a stream of feedback that makes the forums a trickle, and they will release them when budgets and design goals say it needs to be done.".

On the other hand, level scaling could be used as an example of them listening to their fans (a bit too much as far as Oblivion is concerned). I mean, one of the most common complaints about Morrowind back in the day was that once you hit level 20 or so, you were an all powerful god that could kill anything.