[jessica Villacis]

Well, I brought that up first, and then I got to thinking. Because this is different than Brink. Brink didn't have 3 other trademarks that were fully good to announce already.

And now I am back to agreeing with you...

This cat and mouse game with speculation is a dizzying mess sometimes! Oh Tamriel, you elusive vixen...

[JR Cash]

Meh.

[Lexy Corpsey]

Wait, what's going on? A new trademark?

[Inol Wakhid]

Well as I perused the trademarks for Oblivion, I found they did the SAME thing here (at least on one of them). The same type of mark that they just renewed for Skyrim had an abandonment date:

Abandonment Date January 21, 2007

Here is the full trail of events:


2007-03-30 - Abandonment Notice Mailed - No Use Statement Filed

2007-03-30 - Abandonment - No use statement filed

2006-08-08 - Assigned To Examiner

2006-07-12 - Extension 5 granted

2006-07-12 - Extension 5 filed

2006-07-12 - TEAS Extension Received

2006-01-09 - Extension 4 granted

2006-01-09 - Extension 4 filed


And since we all know Oblivion was released 3/06 I have no idea why they would have filed for extensions after it was released...

The OTHER, LIVE, mark for Oblivion was filed for on:

Filing Date April 4, 2003

So here we are again with TWO trademarks, for the same thing, with one Dead and one Alive... and a pocket full of marbles...

[Big mike]

snip

Hm.

It's interesting that both those Oblivion trademarks were filed near the same time. It is different though in the case with Skyrim though, as the new one was trademarked a bit before the old one is going to expire.

[Ana Torrecilla Cabeza]

I am confused. Does it look likely to see an announcement soon or not?

[teeny]

I am confused. Does it look likely to see an announcement soon or not?

I guess we just don't know for sure.


Anyone think it's interesting that the new Skyrim trademark includes motion pictures? Kind of random, since it seems it's supposed to be for computer game software...

[Max Van Morrison]

This is a mess :laugh:

[Luis Longoria]

I highly doubt you can judge when they'll announce anything by Bethesda's trademark renewal trends. I think we all may be going a bit wacky with wanting a new Elder Scrolls game.

[Amanda Furtado]

I am confused. Does it look likely to see an announcement soon or not?

[Emilie M]

This is a mess :laugh:

Yes and I just got lost in a glossary of definitions and classifications within the specific mark they filed for Skyrim as I noticed that it included movies and wondered how the mark they applied for had changed. What is really interesting is that they define VERY specifically the things within the game itself... making me wonder what kind of speculations can be gained. For example, one number within the mark leads to:

CLASS 463, AMUsemanT DEVICES: GAMES
1 INCLUDING MEANS FOR PROCESSING ELECTRONIC DATA (e.g., computer/video game, etc.):
9 . In a game requiring strategy or problem solving by a participant (e.g., problem eliciting response, puzzle, etc.):

And another:

CLASS 463, AMUsemanT DEVICES: GAMES
1 INCLUDING MEANS FOR PROCESSING ELECTRONIC DATA (e.g., computer/video game, etc.):
40 . With communication link (e.g., television broadcast, etc.):
42 .. Network type (e.g., computer network, etc.):

Here's another...

CLASS 463, AMUsemanT DEVICES: GAMES
1 INCLUDING MEANS FOR PROCESSING ELECTRONIC DATA (e.g., computer/video game, etc.):
36 . Player-actuated control structure (e.g., brain-wave or body signal, bar-code wand, foot pedal, etc.):
37 .. Hand manipulated (e.g., keyboard, mouse, touch panel, etc.):

[CYCO JO-NATE]

Well if they don't announce anything soon, then I truly believe that that is a stupid decision on their part. Enthusiasm for another TES game seems to be at its peak now, and people will probably begin to lose interetst (At least a little

[ZANEY82]

Well if they don't announce anything soon, then I truly believe that that is a stupid decision on their part. Enthusiasm for another TES game seems to be at its peak now, and people will probably begin to lose interetst (At least a little

Once again, the longer Bethesda keeps TES V a secret, the longer they can work on it and make it better. Also, people who had interest in the game will not just lose interest if it doesn't get announced at this moment. Once it gets announced, those who were once interested will flock to it. I like how Bethesda is taking their time on this.

[Daniel Lozano]

the success rate for accurate predictions of announcements regarding huge titles like the Elder Scrolls by online forum members is pretty low. i think it's important for us all to remember the key word in the title of this thread is speculation.

[marie breen]

Once again, the longer Bethesda keeps TES V a secret, the longer they can work on it and make it better. Also, people who had interest in the game will not just lose interest if it doesn't get announced at this moment. I like how Bethesda is taking their time on this.

Well what if they HAVEN'T been working on it???

[Elina]

Yes and I just got lost in a glossary of definitions and classifications within the specific mark they filed for Skyrim as I noticed that it included movies and wondered how the mark they applied for had changed. What is really interesting is that they define VERY specifically the things within the game itself... making me wonder what kind of speculations can be gained. For example, one number within the mark leads to:

...

How does all that compare with the old Skyrim computer game software trademark?

[Adriana Lenzo]

Well what if they HAVEN'T been working on it???

They are. It makes perfect sense.

[Charlotte Buckley]

They are. It makes perfect sense.

We don't actually know that though. They could have just been reserving the name, and "retooling" their engine. Maybe real work has just begun?

[Guinevere Wood]

Well what if they HAVEN'T been working on it???

Do you realize how etremely unlikely that is? What else would they be working on? It would be pointless to be working on Fallout 4 after Fallout 3 and Obsidian's New Vegas, and TES is their only other IP. So unless they are making Where's Waldo 2 or a new IP (Which would be EXTREMELY unlikely for a plethora of reasons) they are currently working on TES V.

[Connie Thomas]

We don't actually know that though. They could have just been reserving the name, and "retooling" their engine. Maybe real work has just begun?

If they spent two full years "retooling" the engine and only doing that, then I'm expecting an amazing game engine, and making the actual gameworld is the easiest part of game development, from what I hear. Also, the entire development team wouldn't work on a game engine. Artists would draw concept art, writers would get the plot written out, etc.

[Christina Trayler]

Do you realize how etremely unlikely that is? What else would they be working on? It would be pointless to be working on Fallout 4 after Fallout 3 and Obsidian's New Vegas, and TES is their only other IP. So unless they are making Where's Waldo 2 or a new IP (Which would be EXTREMELY unlikely for a plethora of reasons) they are currently working on TES V.

No I know, I doubt that as well, but we can't rule it out

[BRAD MONTGOMERY]

the entire development team wouldn't work on a game engine. Artists would draw concept art, writers would get the plot written out, etc.

Exactly this. Even if they have been revamping the engine for the past x years, there would also be people working on TES V itself.

[lauren cleaves]

No I know, I doubt that as well, but we can't rule it out

Fallout 4: Skyrim

You see what the problem is there, right?

[Ian White]

How does all that compare with the old Skyrim computer game software trademark?

Well there are identical in classification but the definitions have changed since the original mark was applied years ago. The current definitions include "movies" but only as they had been included in to the sub-set within the classification.

Basically it looks like they decided that "movies" (like in-game-cinematic sequences) and other video game standards that needed to be included in the longer definitions and therefore belonged a part of:

Old:
IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computer game programs; downloadable computer game programs offered via handheld computers, wireless telephones and mobile and wireless devices

New:
IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles; downloadable computer game software offered via the internet and wireless devices; Computer game software for use with on-line interactive games; Motion pictures

[Steven Nicholson]

If they do decide to wait to reveal anything, that's fine with me. As long as they are working and not playing Chinpokomon.