TES V Speculation Thread # 41 : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:43 am

Maybe, but there seem to be some changes in the classification description. The latest trademark covers more 'online services' than the old one.
This could mean a number of things.

Oblivion had the same dual trademark issue:

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1100100-tes-v-speculation-thread-41/page__view__findpost__p__16088917

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:40 am

Trademark 85067861. Zenimax got a new trademark on Skyrim.

You can find it http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=85067861.

*jaw drops*

*shoves imaginary papers off desk*

Well [censored], thats... [censored]. At least this means we don't have to worry about the expiring trademarks... because they will likely file new trademarks for the others soon. But this means that if the next Game Informer isn't TES V, then we'll have nothing to go on anymore.

Well... at least we can pretty much tell all the people who say it can't be in Skyrim to shove it now.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:13 pm

Oblivion had the same dual trademark issue:

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1100100-tes-v-speculation-thread-41/page__view__findpost__p__16088917

I haven't looked into the two oblivion trademarks, because I can't access the trademark search engine right now. Was there a difference in the class description as well?

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:45 am

*jaw drops*

*shoves imaginary papers off desk*

Well [censored], thats... [censored]. At least this means we don't have to worry about the expiring trademarks... because they will likely file new trademarks for the others soon. But this means that if the next Game Informer isn't TES V, then we'll have nothing to go on anymore.

Well... at least we can pretty much tell all the people who say it can't be in Skyrim to shove it now.

Don't worry. This could be a trademark for future DLC, which means that the 'old' trademark can still be used for the actual game.
Even if GI doesn't show us Utopia, we still have to see whether Zenimax lets the old trademark expire.
Let's just take this one step at a time.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:19 pm

Don't worry. This could be a trademark for future DLC, which means that the 'old' trademark can still be used for the actual game.
Even if GI doesn't show us Utopia, we still have to see whether Zenimax lets the old trademark expire.
Let's just take this one step at a time.

Wrong, sorry... Shivering Isles got its own trademark.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:00 am

I haven't looked into the two oblivion trademarks, because I can't access the trademark search engine right now. Was there a difference in the class description as well?

Both of them were for computer game software.

Here's a thought for you guys:
Why didn't Zenimax file for a new Skyrim trademark before January, the last time of renewal for the old trademarks? If they weren't intending on announcing it real soon, why not just file new Skyrim trademarks even sooner and let the old ones expire even sooner? But for some reason, they waited till the old Skyrim trademarks are about to expire.

And I don't think Bethesda is going to develop for the next-generation consoles. They can make tons of money making ESV on this generation, Fallout 3 proved that. Heck, Fallout 3 had a shorter development time than Oblivion, yet Fallout 3 sold more. Now, ESV is showing to have a longer development time than Fallout 3. FO3 had 1 year and 2 months of development after Oblivion was released before it was announced. ESV is having 7 more months of development time now than FO3 before it gets announced. It's about darn time.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:51 pm

Wrong, sorry... Shivering Isles got its own trademark.

True, but I wonder to what extend the trademark will be applicable if Skyrim DLC will carry the name "Skyrim" in it, Like "Skyrim, the lost wanderer" or something.

Of course this is also my attempt to keep my hopes up, because quite honestly the new trademark doesn't look good when you're waiting for an announcement.... :sad:

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:16 pm

Both of them were for computer game software.

Here's a thought for you guys:
Why didn't Zenimax file for a new Skyrim trademark before January, the last time of renewal for the old trademarks? If they weren't intending on announcing it real soon, why not just file new Skyrim trademarks even sooner and let the old ones expire even sooner? But for some reason, they waited till the old Skyrim trademarks are about to expire.

Yeah, and they were only different in the description not the classification:

Live:
IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computer game programs; providing downloadable computer game programs offered via handheld computers, wireless telephones and mobile and wireless devices. FIRST USE: 20060321. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20060419

IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: providing online computer games; providing online computer game programs offered via handheld computers, wireless telephones and mobile and wireless devices. FIRST USE: 20060419. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20060419

Filing Date April 4, 2003

Dead:
(ABANDONED) IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computer game programs
(ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Providing online computer games
Filing Date July 7, 2003
Abandonment Date January 21, 2007

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:39 pm

Here's a thought for you guys:
Why didn't Zenimax file for a new Skyrim trademark before January, the last time of renewal for the old trademarks? If they weren't intending on announcing it real soon, why not just file new Skyrim trademarks even sooner and let the old ones expire even sooner? But for some reason, they waited till the old Skyrim trademarks are about to expire.

One might think they only just found out they need more time to finish the game than they first anticipated.
Or (and I refuse to believe this!!!! :flame:) they need the full length of the new trademark for TES V.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:43 am

Or (and I refuse to believe this!!!! :flame:) they need the full length of the new trademark for TES V.

That's nightmare fuel right there.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:13 pm

One might think they only just found out they need more time to finish the game than they first anticipated.
Or (and I refuse to believe this!!!! :flame:) they need the full length of the new trademark for TES V.

Well the did only recently post jobs for quest writers... perhaps they are just now finishing the engine rebuild they promised and are now just gearing up to start their first meeting on a new Elder Scrolls game, whew. Now the development can begin (sarcasm).

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:51 pm

Well the did only recently post jobs for quest writers... perhaps they are just now finishing the engine rebuild they promised and are now just gearing up to start their first meeting on a new Elder Scrolls game, whew. Now the development can begin (sarcasm).

Thanks... I just pulled an all-nighter (it's 05:40 AM here) and still need to sleep. I don't even have to try that anymore...

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:43 pm

Perhaps they saw the genius in my IHRA Drag Racing (with talking horses) reboot idea and decided to delay TES V for a few years while they worked on it. Sorry guys. :sadvaultboy:

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:50 pm

Did they recently post a job for a quest-writer? It doesn't say NEW next to it. It says "new" next to World Artists though.

Still, I think they have enough developers to warrant an announcement...

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:38 pm

Perhaps they saw the genius in my IHRA Drag Racing (with talking horses) reboot idea and decided to delay TES V for a few years while they worked on it. Sorry guys. :sadvaultboy:

You quickly went from a nightmare to a dream!

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:50 pm

You guys despair too easily. Let's just wait until we see the August GI cover, then we can decide whether or not we should start crying.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:30 am

You guys despair too easily. Let's just wait until we see the August GI cover, then we can decide whether or not we should start crying.

BUT IT'S HOPELESS, DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?! :cryvaultboy: /melodrama

In all seriousness, though, I agree. It's not looking as hopeful as before, but that does not mean we should despair.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:21 pm

Mayhap the cover art is for Two Worlds 2. Not terrible logic methinks.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:48 pm

Mayhap the cover art is for Two Worlds 2. Not terrible logic methinks.

The Game Informer cover is of a game that wasn't at E3. Two Worlds II was at E3.

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:53 am

Where's Kingdom Heart III?

Spoiler

I know, a Japanese game would likely be in a Japanese magazine, but you never know(I am joking, of course)

» Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:21 am

Where's Kingdom Heart III?

Spoiler

I know, a Japanese game would likely be in a Japanese magazine, but you never know(I am joking, of course)

Haven't you heard? Kingdom Hearts III was killed by fire.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:56 pm

Where's Kingdom Heart III?

Spoiler

I know, a Japanese game would likely be in a Japanese magazine, but you never know(I am joking, of course)

We've discussed this before, and http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3179952 Even if it was, the developers are busy focusing on Final Fantasy Versus, and they're already marketing other handheld Kingdom Hearts games.

Also, Final Fantasy Versus was revealed in Famitsu recently I believe, so that can't be it for GI either.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:41 pm

Eh, I think we can rule out anything like that. I feel like when someone says "fantasy game" they usually mean something very specific. Swords and elves and [censored].

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:39 pm

In response to the DLC thing, don't they have another trademark for something called http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4004:g6o4ll.4.24? I think that could be DLC.

» Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:16 pm

In response to the DLC thing, don't they have another trademark for something called http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4004:g6o4ll.4.24? I think that could be DLC.

Good observation. :goodjob: