[Dona BlackHeart]

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Is it possible if the subscription was processed today, that I receive the August issue of Game Informer? I really don't want to miss out on the reveal of The Elder Scrolls V

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LOL I was bored

I see what you did there :wink_smile:

[Jordan Moreno]

How to you get a whole team to remain silent without so much as a hint? you'd have thought one would have told his freind about the game he is working on... who tells his friend etc.

Pretty easily I'd imagine. The threat of losing your job and, as a consequence, your income, is all the motivation you need to not leak any details. Plus the fact that your reason for being fired would likely be listed as "violated NDA" would ensure you wont be getting a job with another developer any time soon.

[Naomi Ward]

This thread must cause hell with the PR regulations of other companies. I wouldn't be surprised if they secretly, or openly, hated Bethesda a bit for allowing it.


Keep poking holes.
:poke:

[Scotties Hottie]

And the waiting continues.

[Dustin Brown]

Pretty easily I'd imagine. The threat of losing your job and, as a consequence, your income, is all the motivation you need to not leak any details. Plus the fact that your reason for being fired would likely be listed as "violated NDA" would ensure you wont be getting a job with another developer any time soon.

This is the consequences, yes, but I don't think they need to go so far that they have to threaten their employees.

I imagine the team is able to keep quiet because of common work ethics, as well as a professional attitude towards what they are doing. It should go without saying that you don't leak this sort of info if Bethesda has trusted you with a position in their company.

[Angus Poole]

This is the consequences, yes, but I don't think they need to go so far that they have to threaten their employees.

I imagine the team is able to keep quiet because of common work ethics, as well as a professional attitude towards what they are doing. It should go without saying that you don't leak this sort of info if Bethesda has trusted you with a position in their company.

When in that post did I say that they threaten their employees? Nowhere. I said the threat is there, as it is for any job. There's an obvious threat of being fired from a job if you go blabbing company secrets, they don't actually have to threaten anyone. I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth in the future.

[Lil Miss]

This is the consequences, yes, but I don't think they need to go so far that they have to threaten their employees.

Requiring people to sign an NDA is a threat. The NDA says, in leagalese: blab and you're fired, and you agree to it by signing.

Just life these days, but it is a threat.

[john palmer]

in some cases, it can be worse than just a firing. i've heard of companies like Microsoft filing lawsuits against employees who violate NDAs.

but a violation of the NDA is most likely viewed as insubordination, the same way refusing to take a drug test is. in other words, grounds for immediate firing. 'threaten' is totally the wrong word here.

also, if you are terminated from a developer for violating your NDA, good luck getting another job in the game industry. that would be enough for me to keep quiet.

[Crystal Clarke]

in some cases, it can be worse than just a firing. i've heard of companies like Microsoft filing lawsuits against employees who violate NDAs.

but a violation of the NDA is most likely viewed as insubordination, the same way refusing to take a drug test is. in other words, grounds for immediate firing. 'threaten' is totally the wrong word here.

also, if you are terminated from a developer for violating your NDA, good luck getting another job in the game industry. that would be enough for me to keep quiet.

I work in a completely different industry, but we do use proprietary software and have proprietary practices for which I had to sign NDAs, and the verbiage in mine explicitly allowed for legal ramifications outside of just termination of employment, so there certainly is the chance that whatever NDA they are required to sign is hefty at least.

[Angela]

Summation: they are both ethically and legally not allowed to talk about TESV until the go-ahead is given from above.

[adam holden]

Well everyone seems to be getting antsy for TESV. Check out G4tv's list of "Missing From E3" and the comments they make about our deeply ABSENT long awaited jewel:

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/705776/Missing-in-Action-The-Games-That-Werent-At-E3.html

[Tamika Jett]

Well everyone seems to be getting antsy for TESV. Check out G4tv's list of "Missing From E3" and the comments they make about our deeply ABSENT long awaited jewel:

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/705776/Missing-in-Action-The-Games-That-Werent-At-E3.html

Is the whole game industry about to tank? There were (5) titles previously announced or even shown (<= (2) years ago) that were no-shows this year?

[My blood]

Well everyone seems to be getting antsy for TESV. Check out G4tv's list of "Missing From E3" and the comments they make about our deeply ABSENT long awaited jewel:

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/705776/Missing-in-Action-The-Games-That-Werent-At-E3.html

Yeah, I've actually been hearing game journalists reference TESV a lot recently in articles and podcasts and such. It seems like everyone is getting hungry for a new Elder Scrolls. Hopefully Bethesda won't disappoint. :hehe:

[IsAiah AkA figgy]

Well everyone seems to be getting antsy for TESV. Check out G4tv's list of "Missing From E3" and the comments they make about our deeply ABSENT long awaited jewel:

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/705776/Missing-in-Action-The-Games-That-Werent-At-E3.html

Where's Elder Scrolls V, already?! Once the dust from these four titles has relatively settled, we hope they get to work on it.

:facepalm:

[Gemma Archer]

:facepalm:

What? We all know that Bethesda has been sitting around and doing nothing since they finished making Fallout 3. It's so obvious. /sarcasm

[Angel Torres]

What? We all know that Bethesda has been sitting around and doing nothing since they finished making Fallout 3. It's so obvious. /sarcasm

I seriously hope whoever wrote that article knows the difference between Bethesda Softworks and Bethesda Game Studios. Why would BGS be doing nothing while other developers are developing their own games? :laugh:

[Jason King]

Well everyone seems to be getting antsy for TESV. Check out G4tv's list of "Missing From E3" and the comments they make about our deeply ABSENT long awaited jewel:

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/705776/Missing-in-Action-The-Games-That-Werent-At-E3.html

Though what kind of makes me proud of Bethesda is that when you look at that list, you'll notice that pretty much every other game on that list was announced years ago but suddenly they're not talking about anything. gamesas doesn't talk until they're ready, but when they are, there is plenty of info.

[Jason Rice]

Though what kind of makes me proud of Bethesda is that when you look at that list, you'll notice that pretty much every other game on that list was announced years ago but suddenly they're not talking about anything. gamesas doesn't talk until they're ready, but when they are, there is plenty of info.

I don't know about plenty. Fallout 3 went for a few months as I recall after they released the teaser trailer with the bus.

[MARLON JOHNSON]

I don't know about plenty. Fallout 3 went for a few months as I recall after they released the teaser trailer with the bus.

Yeah, but a few months is better than 1-3 years. I remember when they announced Guild Wars 2, and then there was nothing for a VERY long time, except for a piece of concept art every so often. Concept art is alright, but actual gameplay is much better.

[neen]

When in that post did I say that they threaten their employees? Nowhere. I said the threat is there, as it is for any job. There's an obvious threat of being fired from a job if you go blabbing company secrets, they don't actually have to threaten anyone. I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth in the future.

No need to get all offended. When asked how the team manages to remain silent, you mentioned legal consequences. I just felt like adding that work ethics and professionalism usually comes before that. I don't think the legal actions plays a large role in the teams loyalty to Bethesdas secrecy.

When I wrote that I don't think they have to threaten their employees, I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, it was just a way of expressing that the legal threats are probably not even an issue and certainly not the primary reason for remaining silent. (though it could seem like you were implying this when you only mention legal actions as a reason for not leaking company info)

PS. I know this is off-topic, just wanted to make my point more clear.

[CHANONE]

Yeah, but a few months is better than 1-3 years. I remember when they announced Guild Wars 2, and then there was nothing for a VERY long time, except for a piece of concept art every so often. Concept art is alright, but actual gameplay is much better.

*cough* thief 4 *cough* even worse, I haven't seen any concept art at all from those developers. I've said it before in this thread, I'm glad that Bethesda isn't pulling this stunt like Eidos Montreal is. Announcing a game and then letting it sit since May '09 without anything but a forum is rediculous. I'd much rather an announcement with screenshots or footage ready soon after. You don't start the train rolling and then apply the brakes, you steam to full speed, which is what Bethesda is prolly doing, and it makes complete sense.

[Chloe Lou]

Yeah, but a few months is better than 1-3 years. I remember when they announced Guild Wars 2, and then there was nothing for a VERY long time, except for a piece of concept art every so often. Concept art is alright, but actual gameplay is much better.

Though I prefer that Bethesda would release a plethora of information about the game when they announce it, I fully expect to only see a couple screen shots and limited information at the outset. Of course, perhaps it is better that way. Hunting meticulously for every scrap of information about the game may serve well as a means by which we can wean ourselves away from the speculative addiction of this thread.

No need to get all offended. When asked how the team manages to remain silent, you mentioned legal consequences. I just felt like adding that work ethics and professionalism usually comes before that. I don't think the legal actions plays a large role in the teams loyalty to Bethesdas secrecy.

When I wrote that I don't think they have to threaten their employees, I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, it was just a way of expressing that the legal threats are probably not even an issue and certainly not the primary reason for remaining silent.

No, though his response perhaps seemed strong, I quite agree with xXAntibodyXx. Apart from a legal backbone (and subsequently assured consequences), all attempts at preventing employees from divulging trade secrets are either veiled threats or idealistic advances. An NDA is not a threat, but an assurance that Bethesda retains (and fully intends to exercise) the legal right to terminate and pursue legal action against any employee that violates the terms of the agreement. It is, essentially, a contract; like a promise from the employee to Bethesda that secrets will be protected - except more of a guarantee underwritten by the letter of the law as enforced by the US government.

Promises, perks, ethics, and love of the company, though certainly useful in fostering a pleasing/productive work-environment, simply are not intrinsically substantive enough to protect trade secrets. In fact, scenarios could be brought forth in each where they would be detrimental to protecting secrets. There must be a legal foundation girded beneath for these positive reinforcements to be favorably applied as intended.

[Ashley Campos]

I just REALLY hope TES V will come out eventually, also that Bethesda won't really change it too much like some companies do and totally mess up the game from it's original style. I LOVE Oblivion, i'm just restless for the sequel.

"I don't look at future games based on specifics from the last, I like to start fresh. We have lots of ideas, but anything I say here will be premature. Like the previous games the next game will be different from what we just did, and many people will scream again."
To make this post on topic: Anyone have any any theories about the timing of the next book in relation to TES V?

[xxLindsAffec]

"I don't look at future games based on specifics from the last, I like to start fresh. We have lots of ideas, but anything I say here will be premature. Like the previous games the next game will be different from what we just did, and many people will scream again."
To make this post on topic: Anyone have any any theories about the timing of the next book in relation to TES V?

Is that a direct quote from Todd? And did he say that after Fallout 3? (please please please please please please please)

I'm clueless about the second book now. I would have thought we'd hear about it earlier. I can only imagine they'll announce its launch date alongside TES:V's reveal to boost pre-orders and book sales.

[Amy Cooper]

Anyone have any any theories about the timing of the next book in relation to TES V?

I am looking for that to happen soon after TES:V is announced; to help pacify us rapid fans ravenous for information and to help generate better book sales by said fans.