[Emmanuel Morales]

Beat me to it.

You've been around on these forums longer than most of us. Care to recount how Oblivion was announced, and how soon before its Game Informer reveal for us? I think I remember other members mentioning that a countdown clock appeared on the website? If they follow a similar pattern, we may get hints by the end of this week.

I wasn't around, but I know from reading articles about it that there was a countdown with daedric lettering that lasted a week, and at the end of the week it was announced. I don't think Bethesda has that kind of time to do that with TES V though.

As for when the announcement could come, yeah, it's pretty much possible any time between July 1st and whatever date the GI cover is revealed, around July 5-12. So we're either very close to the announcement or very close to a massive, massive disappointment.

[kasia]

I wasn't around, but I know from reading articles about it that there was a countdown with daedric lettering that lasted a week, and at the end of the week it was announced. I don't think Bethesda has that kind of time to do that with TES V though.

As for when the announcement could come, yeah, it's pretty much possible any time between July 1st and whatever date the GI cover is revealed, around July 5-12. So we're either very close to the announcement or very close to a massive, massive disappointment.

I don't think they'd do the same thing with 2 games. Its was prob going to be different even if they had enough time.

[Dawn Farrell]

Beat me to it.

You've been around on these forums longer than most of us. Care to recount how Oblivion was announced, and how soon before its Game Informer reveal for us? I think I remember other members mentioning that a countdown clock appeared on the website? If they follow a similar pattern, we may get hints by the end of this week.

As I recall, they started a countdown on the main webpage with a partial quote each day.
On announcement day, they combined the quotes along with the large Daedric "o".

If they follow a similar pattern (and if TESV is actually the game in GI), then we should see something soon... which is why I have been checking the main page every day.

[Code Affinity]

I posted over on some GW2 forums that there is a chance of a GW2 GI cover, and they even think it's going to be TES:V. So that's a good sign .

[sophie]

I posted over on some GW2 forums that there is a chance of a GW2 GI cover, and they even think it's going to be TES:V. So that's a good sign .

Yeah, it is. Everything is coming together perfectly (almost )

[john palmer]

I posted over on some GW2 forums that there is a chance of a GW2 GI cover, and they even think it's going to be TES:V. So that's a good sign .

Now go post in the Bungie forums that they're canceling Halo: Reach. That might bring up some hell.

So, if even the GW2 forums believe it's going to be TESV, Bethesda might have a few pissed off peeps if that cover isn't TESV :flamethrower:

[jessica Villacis]

GStaff hasn't been in here saying that TES V isn't the cover either :whistling:

[Pete Schmitzer]

GStaff hasn't been in here saying that TES V isn't the cover either :whistling:

It's probably not a good road to go down when we're using lack of GStaff as a sign. bliviongate:

[Sherry Speakman]

It's probably not a good road to go down when we're using lack of GStaff as a sign. bliviongate:

Yeah... I haven't seen him around at all in the past week or so...

[Big Homie]

In regards to this new trademark filing, here's what I want to know...

It looks as if they filed again to cover more classes and definitions of the trademark. I want to know though, if this can be used as a loophole to extending the need to provide a statement of use and start over, or if this new filing is allowed only with the same restrictions as the current trademark status. Meaning, say a company files another trademark on the same trademark at its fourth extension. Is it allowed to basically start over? Or does it continue from the fourth extension so that they can only file for the fifth extension and then the statement of use or risk losing the old and new trademark??

Another question, does filing the new trademark with the exisiting still in effect grant a slight extension in time? Meaning, it doesn't start them over with 4 years of renewable filing, but since the definitions changed or expanded some, perhaps it acts as a last-ditch extension????

(HEY SYLT, this is your hint/cue to call that boring man at the trademark office again, haha. I'd do it myself, but I figured since you already called once you would easily know how to navigate their automated phone systems, maybe even having the numbers to press memorized? heh)

[James Smart]

In regards to this new trademark filing, here's what I want to know...

I don't have an authoritative answer to these questions, but I'll offer my best-guessed answers.

It looks as if they filed again to cover more classes and definitions of the trademark. I want to know though, if this can be used as a loophole to extending the need to provide a statement of use and start over, or if this new filing is allowed only with the same restrictions as the current trademark status. Meaning, say a company files another trademark on the same trademark at its fourth extension. Is it allowed to basically start over? Or does it continue from the fourth extension so that they can only file for the fifth extension and then the statement of use or risk losing the old and new trademark??

First, I think the trademark applications are considered separate in terms of extensions. The second is a brand new application; with all applicable extensions available. Another company, as far as I can tell, would be denied any applications until the other had been declared dead. I've been wondering myself how they could apply for the second trademark, and my best guesses have been that they either exploited a loophole (such as you suggest) or there are some allowances of which I am ignorant.

Another question, does filing the new trademark with the exisiting still in effect grant a slight extension in time? Meaning, it doesn't start them over with 4 years of renewable filing, but since the definitions changed or expanded some, perhaps it acts as a last-ditch extension????

I believe it is a brand new application with all applicable extensions available.

As I recall, they started a countdown on the main webpage with a partial quote each day.
On announcement day, they combined the quotes along with the large Daedric "o".

If they follow a similar pattern (and if TESV is actually the game in GI), then we should see something soon... which is why I have been checking the main page every day.

This is what I remember as well and where my expectations also lie.

[DarkGypsy]

I don't have an authoritative answer to these questions, but I'll offer my best-guessed answers.




First, I think the trademark applications are considered separate in terms of extensions. The second is a brand new application; with all applicable extensions available. Another company, as far as I can tell, would be denied any applications until the other had been declared dead. I've been wondering myself how they could apply for the second trademark, and my best guesses have been that they either exploited a loophole (such as you suggest) or there are some allowances of which I am ignorant.




I believe it is a brand new application with all applicable extensions available.




This is what I remember as well and where my expectations also lie.

Are you still leaning towards August GI?

[Janette Segura]

I don't have an authoritative answer to these questions, but I'll offer my best-guessed answers.




First, I think the trademark applications are considered separate in terms of extensions. The second is a brand new application; with all applicable extensions available. Another company, as far as I can tell, would be denied any applications until the other had been declared dead. I've been wondering myself how they could apply for the second trademark, and my best guesses have been that they either exploited a loophole (such as you suggest) or there are some allowances of which I am ignorant.




I believe it is a brand new application with all applicable extensions available.

Sorry, I didn't mean for this to sound demanding in any way, hahah, just my thoughts and musings as to wondering if the new application truly is a seperate entity. I appreciate your answers, though Stain, as your guesses are prolly better then mine would be in these areas. I find this whole thing interesting though, as I may be looking to do this very same thing in the next few years or so. Perhaps I should just hire a lawyer :cryvaultboy: when the time comes and let him deal with the unknown voids and black holes of law practice...heh

[Taylor Bakos]

I'll admit that I usually hang out in the CD and rarely come to the TES Gen boards, but lately I have been feeling a need to check out what will come of TES V and thought I would stop by. What I want to know is, however, why is everybody slating for a July/Aug GI cover announcement? I read the parts about the patents but filing doesn't necessarily dictate announcing. Could it be that after the fervor that was E3, they wanted to let the fires die, then stoke them back up with the announcement of another big title? It just seems like wishful thinking that it will be announced in the next GI (although I really hope it does get announced). Can somebody recount the logic behind this?

[Sophie Louise Edge]

A GI guy did a twitter that there would be a huge fantasy sequel that wasn't at E3. we narrowed it down to either DAII or TESV, and because of all the DLC DAII seems unlikely.

Way too many abbreviations in that.

[Silencio]

A GI guy did a twitter that there would be a huge fantasy sequel that wasn't at E3. we narrowed it down to either DAII or TESV, and because of all the DLC DAII seems unlikely.

Way too many abbreviations in that.

:ahhh:

EDIT: Wait a minute, did he say "sequel"? as in second?

[Sam Parker]

:ahhh:

EDIT: Wait a minute, did he say "sequel"? as in second?

Well, technically a sequel is any game coming in a line of, and TES V would be a sequel of TES IV. But you may raise a valid point

[Reanan-Marie Olsen]

Well, technically a sequel is any game coming in a line of, and TES V would be a sequel of TES IV. But you may raise a valid point

Quite technically speaking, no TES games are sequels as a sequel continues a story and TES games are only connected by the universe in which they exist.

[michael flanigan]

A GI guy did a twitter that there would be a huge fantasy sequel that wasn't at E3. we narrowed it down to either DAII or TESV, and because of all the DLC DAII seems unlikely.

Way too many abbreviations in that.

Wanted ASAP but no ETA on TESV (sequel to OB) per GI nor E3. Needs more TLC. OK?

[anna ley]

Oh lord not this again. We already discussed whether or not TES V counts as a sequel to death, and the general consensus seemed to be that the guy likely wrote the tweet in the timespan of only a few seconds, so the word "sequel" fit perfectly fine for what he was trying to say. I'm sure if he knew his little tweet would be dissected by us topic after topic he would have worded it better.

[Tiffany Holmes]

Quite technically speaking, no TES games are sequels as a sequel continues a story and TES games are only connected by the universe in which they exist.

If I remember correctly, the Gold and Silver versions of Pokemon were considered sequels to the Red and Blue versions. The later games were not considered sequels. Off-topic, but interesting.

[Francesca]

Sorry I brought this topic up earlier read way to much into what the guy was sayin. So no Beth Admin killing our hopes muhahahahahahaha! :foodndrink:

[Gemma Woods Illustration]

Sequel being next in sequence. see, the word structure and stuff. so TESV may not continue directly from Oblivion but it can be called a sequel.

I'm pumped for it. There's at least as good a chance as I had at the slots these past days, and I made good on those.

[Lalla Vu]

If Final Fantasy games can be considered sequels to each other, then TES games absolutely can. No need to worry about that.

[Dean Brown]

Oh god, I started a firestorm :ahhh: