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Post » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:40 am

When TESV is released what do you think will happen with the schism between Morrowind and Oblivion fans? will they're be a new faction composed of former TESIII and TESIV fans? or will it attract a whole new fanbase?post your thoughts
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Janeth Valenzuela Castelo
 
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Post » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:33 am

I say there will be a new batch. Just like you said, when it was Morrowind vs Oblivion, it will be the same Oblivion vs TES V. Morrowind may or may not be out of the picture, just as Daggerfall and Arena is out of the debates most times. But then again Morrowind is something special, so it could even be Morrowind vs Oblivion vs TES V.

Well I belive I will love TES V so I will love them all for different reasons.
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:52 pm

Refer to my signature to see my opinion on fan schisms. I can't speak for anyone else, but I will love TES V as I love Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion. Bethesda has always changed the series from game to game. Elder Scrolls fans should know that and embrace it, in my opinion.
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:13 pm

I love how open minded you are, seti. Maybe one day I'll be just like you.
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:31 pm

Well, as I've said before here, Oblivion is picked on so much because it's the newest game in the series, and once TES V comes out, the criticism of it will be much less severe. Just as you don't see people criticizing Morrowind anymore, people will stop criticizing Oblivion. The people who prefer Morrowind wont suddenly join forces with the people who prefer Oblivion, though, there will just be two parties criticizing one game, and the new fans that prefer TES V will have to endure quite a bit more criticism than the ones who prefer Oblivion currently do.

That's what I assume will happen anyway.
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:37 pm

Maybe we would even see people go like: Fallout: New Vegas vs TES:V
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:27 pm

Maybe we would even see people go like: Fallout: New Vegas vs TES:V

im not to excited about F4. I didnt love F3 that zealously
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:32 pm

im not to excited about F4. I didnt love F3 that zealously


Well considering New Vegas isn't Fallout 4 you don't have to worry about it :poke:
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:07 pm

Well considering New Vegas isn't Fallout 4 you don't have to worry about it :poke:

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Is it not F4 because it doesn't have a number in its name? If the next TES game came out and didn't have V or 5 in the title but was clearly the sequel to Oblivion would it not be TES 5?
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:46 pm

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Is it not F4 because it doesn't have a number in its name? If the next TES game came out and didn't have V or 5 in the title but was clearly the sequel to Oblivion would it not be TES 5?


Bethesda said from the very first time they announced it that it's not a sequel, but a spin-off. So no, it isn't Fallout 4.

Edit: http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4983.html
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:23 pm

Bethesda said from the very first time they announced it that it's not a sequel, but a spin-off. So no, it isn't Fallout 4.

Edit: http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4983.html



Opp your right.sry
though it proves im not a huge Fallout fan lol
sorry
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:48 pm

I'll be staying a "Loved MW but disliked OB" type TES:V fan.
I..guess..that's what your asking..
Btw, chillax on the thread making. 0.o
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Post » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:58 am

I liked both Morrowind and Oblivion and I thought both had their pros and cons, so I suppose I'll be in that camp. But I do value Morrowind more, probably because of more nostalgia.
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:47 pm

No one talks about Arena anymore (at least not enough to matter in regards to this topic), but I will say something about the fans:

Daggerfall - Politics and lore made a slew of fans, but the sheer size was so novel that many flocked to it
Morrowind - Graphics and depth of story coupled with a scaled down size that seemed manageable and real, but mellowed on the politics
Oblivion - A whole new generation and the graphics were cutting edge for such a big game. It drew in action gamers that had never picked up an rpg, and instead of mellowing politics, nearly removed them.

From what I can tell, those are the key features that people tend to opine about. So, if that is the case, I suspect that TESV will push graphics and story so that it wins over the Morrowind and Oblivion fans... they will likely just do away with politics (making me very sad) but that isn't just the trend, but we have enough politics in our faces every day all day constantly and being where they are physically located near our capital, I can see them getting a little tired of it too. They want to escape it as much as we do too (though I must say that I love TES politics and find that fairly escapist).
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:07 pm

will they're be a new faction composed of former TESIII and TESIV fans?

Yes, it will be a joinable faction in TESV.
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:14 pm

No one talks about Arena anymore (at least not enough to matter in regards to this topic), but I will say something about the fans:

Daggerfall - Politics and lore made a slew of fans, but the sheer size was so novel that many flocked to it
Morrowind - Graphics and depth of story coupled with a scaled down size that seemed manageable and real, but mellowed on the politics
Oblivion - A whole new generation and the graphics were cutting edge for such a big game. It drew in action gamers that had never picked up an rpg, and instead of mellowing politics, nearly removed them.

From what I can tell, those are the key features that people tend to opine about. So, if that is the case, I suspect that TESV will push graphics and story so that it wins over the Morrowind and Oblivion fans... they will likely just do away with politics (making me very sad) but that isn't just the trend, but we have enough politics in our faces every day all day constantly and being where they are physically located near our capital, I can see them getting a little tired of it too. They want to escape it as much as we do too (though I must say that I love TES politics and find that fairly escapist).

I don't know, I intern at a studio in D.C. and they always have CNN on. They're usually laughing at it.

Anyway, I think the rift between the Morrowind and Daggerfall fans was that Morrowind was a totally different type of game from Daggerfall and Arena. Whereas Daggerfall was really an enhancement on Arena's style, Morrowind was built from the ground up, and totally unexpected.

Oblivion, on the other hand, addressed and attempted to solve most of the complaints made on the forums, while on the other hand, completely left out most of the stuff that made Morrowind great to begin with.

So, either TESV will be a completely new and cool and surprising concept, built from the ground up, or it will be the complete inverse of Oblivion. No scaled monsters or artifacts, just overpowered monsters everywhere that drop overpowered, unique objects. Absolutely no daedric armor, anywhere. No way to travel, at all, not even by walking. Every bandit is named, but there's like two of them. You can sell stolen items to everyone, even their owner. Magic doesn't regenerate, ever, not even when you sleep or level or use a magicka potion.

Anyway, if it's the latter, the people who are new to the game will love it. The Oblivion fans will be outraged. And the Morrowind fans will just give up. If it's the former, I'll love it and everyone else will hate it.
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Post » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:40 am

I don't know, I intern at a studio in D.C. and they always have CNN on. They're usually laughing at it.

Anyway, I think the rift between the Morrowind and Daggerfall fans was that Morrowind was a totally different type of game from Daggerfall and Arena. Whereas Daggerfall was really an enhancement on Arena's style, Morrowind was built from the ground up, and totally unexpected.

Oblivion, on the other hand, addressed and attempted to solve most of the complaints made on the forums, while on the other hand, completely left out most of the stuff that made Morrowind great to begin with.

So, either TESV will be a completely new and cool and surprising concept, built from the ground up, or it will be the complete inverse of Oblivion. No scaled monsters or artifacts, just overpowered monsters everywhere that drop overpowered, unique objects. Absolutely no daedric armor, anywhere. No way to travel, at all, not even by walking. Every bandit is named, but there's like two of them. You can sell stolen items to everyone, even their owner. Magic doesn't regenerate, ever, not even when you sleep or level or use a magicka potion.

Anyway, if it's the latter, the people who are new to the game will love it. The Oblivion will be outraged. And the Morrowind fans will just give up. If it's the former, I'll love it and everyone else will hate it.

Your last three statements are not true for some of us. I love Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion and I know I'm not alone in liking more than one Elder Scrolls game. I will like TES V. One can't be a fan of the series if they only like one game of the series. What's with all these imaginary lines separating fans of one game from the fans of other games?
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:58 pm

For the moment, I only like TESV, so I guess my fanhood is pending.
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Dan Stevens
 
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Post » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:04 am

Your last three statements are not true for some of us. I love Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion and I know I'm not alone in liking more than one Elder Scrolls game. I will like TES V. One can't be a fan of the series if they only like one game of the series. What's with all these imaginary lines separating fans of one game from the others?

I enjoyed Oblivion, not my favorite but I did enjoy playing it.

You have to admit, though. It improved most of the stuff that people complained about on the forums, but at the same time, I guess because we didn't compliment the things they did right, they forgot them.

A few years ago I made a what Oblivion did right forum, just in case. But, alas, I believe it was flamed to death.

Oh yeah, I thought of another one:
There will be hundreds of different factions, but they'll all give the exact same 12 quests.
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:50 pm

So, either TESV will be a completely new and cool and surprising concept, built from the ground up, or it will be the complete inverse of Oblivion. No scaled monsters or artifacts, just overpowered monsters everywhere that drop overpowered, unique objects. Absolutely no daedric armor, anywhere. No way to travel, at all, not even by walking. Every bandit is named, but there's like two of them. You can sell stolen items to everyone, even their owner. Magic doesn't regenerate, ever, not even when you sleep or level or use a magicka potion.

Anyway, if it's the latter, the people who are new to the game will love it. The Oblivion fans will be outraged. And the Morrowind fans will just give up. If it's the former, I'll love it and everyone else will hate it.

If you are saying that Beth made Oblivion a "complete inverse" of Morrowind then we both know that it's wrong because despite many changes to the gameplay many aspects remained the same and there's no way they would implement the stuff you mentioned. Even if they DID actually do that, Oblivion fans will not be outraged and Morrowind fans will not give up, they'll just take it as a joke.

I know it's just sarcasm but I don't think the devs would take the route of "fix whatever was wrong with morrowind even if it means breaking the good stuff" again. They will just try to balance it all and TRY to please everyone, old fans included.

On a side note, I just came back to these forums after a long time of absence and the amount of optimism of members regarding TESV surprised me, again. Despite the recent announcement about E3.
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:51 pm

From what I can tell, those are the key features that people tend to opine about. So, if that is the case, I suspect that TESV will push graphics and story so that it wins over the Morrowind and Oblivion fans...

I'm a Morrowind fan. I can't play a game without good story telling, lore, and I love politics in games. Morrowind was dumbed down from Daggerfall, but it's the uniqueness of the land that appeals to me. I would play Daggerfall a lot more if it was more unique, and less bland in the masses of nothingness (though, I know it's technical limits)

Oh, and if my emulator would give me sound, lol :P

I guess what I'm trying to say is that, at least Morrowind fans, hate it when lore is reduced, even in Morrowind.

And I don't think we'll all gang up on TESV.

I think that either they'll make it appeal to the Morrowind fans, or to the Oblivion fans.

But I also think that they'll do a good job, regardless, since a lot of us will decide on whether or not to continue with the series based on TESV. (it may just be my wishful thinking there, though)
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:20 pm

I'm a Morrowind fan. I can't play a game without good story telling, lore, and I love politics in games. Morrowind was dumbed down from Daggerfall, but it's the uniqueness of the land that appeals to me. I would play Daggerfall a lot more if it was more unique, and less bland in the masses of nothingness (though, I know it's technical limits)

Oh, and if my emulator would give me sound, lol :P

I guess what I'm trying to say is that, at least Morrowind fans, hate it when lore is reduced, even in Morrowind.

And I don't think we'll all gang up on TESV.

I think that either they'll make it appeal to the Morrowind fans, or to the Oblivion fans.

But I also think that they'll do a good job, regardless, since a lot of us will decide on whether or not to continue with the series based on TESV. (it may just be my wishful thinking there, though)

Heh, I tried to imagine just how bad TESV would have to be for me to give up on the series, and whoa, that was some crazy bad thoughts... did you ever play ET for the Atari 2600? That was better than the game I imagined... I think between Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion- I am a fan no matter what. I'd hate a movie and an MMO and action figures based on TES... but I'd buy them all :)
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:51 pm

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Is it not F4 because it doesn't have a number in its name? If the next TES game came out and didn't have V or 5 in the title but was clearly the sequel to Oblivion would it not be TES 5?

Think of it like the gta series
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Post » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:18 pm

Refer to my signature to see my opinion fan schisms. I can't speak for anyone else, but I will love TES V as I love Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion. Bethesda has always changed the series from game to game. Elder Scrolls fans should know that and embrace it, in my opinion.


I like all three of those games too (I never played Arena, so I can't speak on that.) but it's obvious that I don't speak for everyone.

In any case, I think it's safe to say a future Elder Scrolls game will attract a new fanbase, I also expect that there will be cries of "blasphemy" and "ruined FOREVER!" the moment we learn of any changes in the game, if not the moment the game is even announced. Bethesda isn't going to please everyone, that's pretty much a given, on the other hand, there will be some open minded fans who can accept the game as a worthy sequel to the series even if it is a little different from earlier games, I imagine I'll be among them, unless I actually don't like the game, I won't reject it, and so far Bethesda has yet to give me a reason to expect that.
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Post » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:34 am

Different doesn't mean as good, better, or in the spirit of, either. Perhaps playing the open minded closed minded game is annyoing? Video games are a luxury, you aren't open minded for being a fan. This is madness.
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