TES4Edit cleaning instructions : IV

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:01 am

I wanted a week ago to try this but reading his http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=plugin_cleaning_basic he had a phrase that didn't match what I was seeing in the program.
I found the more verbatim CS Wiki page that cleared it up. I want to start top>down as http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide says, starting with Jog_X_Mod.esm, for Thievery in the Imperial City; thievery.esp).
I want to make sure I am starting this correctly so this is what I have so far:

1. Only bottom master checkbox is checked, and only oblivion.esm and jog_x_mod.esm are enabled. Since Thievery.esp is part of the mod, do I load that as well first or do jog first, then load thievery.esp and clean that next?

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Jog_X_Mod.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]07  Qarls_Harvest.esm08  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm09  BetterMusicSystem.esm0A  CURP_Controller.esm0B  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0C  HorseCombatMaster.esm0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.1]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  RedBag - Fog.esp11  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]12  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]13  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]14  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]++  Symphony of Violence.esp15  AmbientTownSounds.esp16  Distant Chapel Bells.esp17  Diverse Voices.esp  [Version 0.1a]18  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]19  Cities Alive At Night.esp1A  CampfireBehavior.esp  [Version 3.0]1B  WindowLightingSystem.esp1C  300_Lore_Dialogue_Updated.esp1D  BookTrackerOBSE.esp1E  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp1F  Chapel Tithe.esp++  Cyrodilic Brandy.esp20  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp21  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.2.2]22  Fishing in Cyrodiil.esp23  Inebriation.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]24  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp25  P1DseeYouSleep.esp26  Portable Campsite.esp++  P1DseeYouSleep - Portable Campsite.esp27  Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp  [Version 1.0.0]28  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp29  Qarls_Harvest.esp2A  Qarls_Harvest addon.esp2B  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3]2C  SoT_Holiday.esp2D  Willful Resistance.esp  [Version 4.0]2E  Wyverex - Deployable Traps.esp2F  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.3.1]30  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]31  Crowded Roads Revisited_ChorrolCheydinhal_5.esp32  Crowded Roads Revisited_GoldRoad_10.esp33  Crowded Roads Revisited_GreenRoad_10.esp34  Crowded Roads Revisited_YellowRoad_10.esp35  PTRoamingNPCs.esp36  FF_Real_Thirst.esp37  Choices and Consequences.esp  [Version 2.1]38  Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp  [Version 1.8]39  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.6]3A  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]3B  Improved Hotkeys_Extended.esp  [Version 1.1]3C  DLCHorseArmor.esp3D  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3E  DLCOrrery.esp3F  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]40  DLCVileLair.esp41  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]42  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp43  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp44  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]45  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp46  ACCCGR SI.esp++  CM_Better Wine.esp++  FineWeapons.esp++  RustyItems.esp47  WarriorBandages_V2.0.esp48  Thieves Arsenal.esp++  Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp49  Slof's Horses Base.esp4A  kuerteeHorseCommands.esp4B  DLCThievesDen.esp4C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]4D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4E  Francesco's Optional Files 1.esp4F  Francesco's Optional Files 2.esp50  Francesco's Optional Files 4.esp51  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]52  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]53  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]54  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp55  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp56  Creatures Alive v1.3.esp57  kuerteeWanderingEncounters.esp58  TIE.esp  [Version 1.37]59  TIE+Frans NPC Inventory.esp  [Version 1.0]5A  Lock Bash Omega.esp  [Version 1.5]5B  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp  [Version 2.03]5C  cyrodiil transportation network 1.3 wz.esp5D  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]5E  Duke Patricks - 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» Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:31 pm

"Top down" means literally what it says. That you start with each ESM and work down, one by one. You'll find very quickly that most of them are already fine, which is as it should be.

When you get to the ESPs, same treatment. Load one, and one only. If it has another master, TES4Edit will automatically load that too and then you treat that ESP as you would normally.

The only time you have to be extra careful is for patches, such as the stuff for the ULs, because they won't load the other mods that they're patching in a lot of cases. That's why the general advice is not to clean patch ESPs because it's too easy to make a mistake there and break something.

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:05 am

And I think you can safely skip any mods made by Arthmoor.

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:02 am

I figured the ULs should already be done. All those various IC area RR/LTPD, etc I wasn't going to touch.
I also will go by that CS Wiki list of already cleaned mods.

Thievery / Jog was not listed so I thought I would try that as a starter.

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:02 am

"Top down" means literally what it says. That you start with each ESM and work down, one by one. You'll find very quickly that most of them are already fine, which is as it should be.

When you get to the ESPs, same treatment. Load one, and one only. If it has another master, TES4Edit will automatically load that too and then you treat that ESP as you would normally.

The only time you have to be extra careful is for patches, such as the stuff for the ULs, because they won't load the other mods that they're patching in a lot of cases. That's why the general advice is not to clean patch ESPs because it's too easy to make a mistake there and break something.

Then also clean the masters prior to the mods that depend on them.

But Arthmoor - you always warned me not to clean esp that have other esp as masters?

Little known in the oblivion community but FO3edit (the renamed tes4edit) really is a big tool for Fallout. http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8629 that was created by Miaximus and since the games and edit programs are so similar there is some good info in there too. There are plans to update it and Miaximus stated that he was in touch with Elminster who plans to release an update for New Vegas.

Can't believe there is not an official or continued thread for edit right now.

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:21 am

I figured the ULs should already be done. All those various IC area RR/LTPD, etc I wasn't going to touch.
I also will go by that CS Wiki list of already cleaned mods.

Thievery / Jog was not listed so I thought I would try that as a starter.

I'd be very suspicious of that list - I don't trust it.

Mods could have since been cleaned or even yet the new relases of a mod have not when at one time they were.

It takes but less than a minute to check how clean a mod is and it is good practice before adding any mod that is new to do that.

But yeah I agree Arthmoor's mods are pretty much a sure bet.

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:03 am

I just completed the Thievery.esp:

[Filtering done] Processed Records: 1217427 Elapsed Time: 00:04
Removing: ICArboretum04 [CELL:0001BD72] (in ICArboretumDistrict "Imperial City Arboretum" [WRLD:0002C109] at 7,13)
Removing: GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 1, 0
Removing: GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0
Removing: [REFR:00085B48] (places UpperShoes03 "Blue Suede Shoes" [CLOT:0002319E] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of ICTalosPlazaDoriansHouseUpstairs "Dorian's Private Quarters" [CELL:0003AD1B])
[Removing "Identical to Master" records done] Processed Records: 2313 Removed Records: 4 Elapsed Time: 00:00

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:24 pm

I want to start top>down as http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide says, starting with

This list is perfect?
"SupremeMagicka.esp" listed in the mods that should be cleaned and those that shouldn't be cleaned!

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:58 pm

News and feature requests for the new version of edit can be found here:
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1119410-fo3edit-for-new-vegas/

Since each edit has so far been just about renaming the exe and a new version is in the works - if you got feature requests - get them in now.

... Arthmoor?

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:17 am

No, it's not perfect, so when stuff like that comes up if you know what to edit, go for it, it's a wiki.

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:23 am

Ran into an error trying to clean Battlehorn enhanced (all background/text is that pink/red going down the list from Oblivion.esm -purple- >DLCBattlehornCastle.esp -red- > BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp - red and bold after cleaning/undeleting):

[Removing "Identical to Master" records done] Processed Records: 1386 Removed Records: 86 Elapsed Time: 00:00
Undeleting: [REFR:01012EC4] (places ChorrolTrapDoor01 "Trap Door" [DOOR:0002A821] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of [CELL:00023777] (in Tamriel [WRLD:0000003C] at 0,0))
Undeleting: [REFR:0100434B] (places BattlehornChestHouseArmoryLower01 "Chest" [CONT:01007775] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:0100434E] (places MiddleClassRugSquare01 [STAT:0001C73B] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:0100332C] (places CastleInt2way [STAT:00028829] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:0100339B] (places UpperClassRugSquare01 [STAT:0001C60E] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:010033AC] (places ChandelierHook01 [STAT:0001921D] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:010033B0] (places ChandelierHook01 [STAT:0001921D] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:01004230] (places CathedralCryptLight02FAKE [STAT:00005478] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:01004272] (places ChandelierHangingRod02 [STAT:000105A0] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:0100428E] (places MCStool01R "Stool" [FURN:0003CF79] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:0100429C] (places MiddleClassPewterMug01 "Pewter Mug" [MISC:0000FDAC] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:0100422E] (places BattlehornCastleDoor01MenAtArms "Wooden Door" [DOOR:0100432D] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:010187FF] (places AMBTorchMountedLP [SOUN:00085837] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
Undeleting: [REFR:010187DF] (places AMBTorchMountedLP [SOUN:00085837] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BattlehornCastleGreatHall "Battlehorn Castle Great Hall" [CELL:01001197])
[Undeleting and Disabling References done] Processed Records: 1300 Undeleted Records: 13 Elapsed Time: 00:00
[00:00] Saving: BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp.save.2010_10_10_20_34_14
[00:00] Error saving BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp.save.2010_10_10_20_34_14: Record [REFR:01012EC4] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP World Children of Tamriel [WRLD:0000003C]) can not be contained in GRUP World Children of Tamriel [WRLD:0000003C]
[00:00] Errors have occured. At least one file was not saved.
[00:00] Saving: BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp.save.2010_10_10_20_34_40
[00:00] Error saving BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp.save.2010_10_10_20_34_40: Record [REFR:01012EC4] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP World Children of Tamriel [WRLD:0000003C]) can not be contained in GRUP World Children of Tamriel [WRLD:0000003C]
[00:00] Errors have occured. At least one file was not saved.

Is it just that this enhanced file is bugged? It always gives bash rebuild error notes and I was told to essentially ignore them in another thread.

I was going to try and merge these plugins together as per my merging thread.

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:42 am

Yeah I had similar problems with that mod and so have others reported it as such.

Battlehorn was all around a let down - http://oblivionsrealestate.com/Find_A_Home/Castles/castles.html - that are free (in real life that is).

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:29 am

Head on over to my merged problem thread. I tried doing just the main and patch plugins and get errors.

I was thinking of removing that DLC and others that have nothing to do with my thief and rearranging my SM Plugin Refurbish if I can get these things to merge properly.

» Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:17 am

You probably just need to delete the [REFR:01012EC4] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] record before saving.