NOTICE: Thread re-opened with moderator permission. Please stay on topic this time, guys.... <_<

As many of you know, there is a rather extensive list of mods on the CS Wiki of mods that need to be cleaned, are already clean, or should not be clean. In order to make this information more accessible and easier to discuss, I have decided to post the lists here, as well. Note that this is only a list, not the actual guide. If you don't know how to clean your mods, follow the link below.

http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide

These are posted with the original author's (Brumbek) explicit permission. They can also be found on the CS Wiki guide linked above.


Mods That Need Post-Installation Cleaning

1em_Vilja (v3.0.1) [11 ITM, 0 UDR]24HrArenaAliveV2.esp300_Artifacts.esp300_Lore_Dialogue_Updated.esp300 Regal Imperial City 2.esp [0 ITM, 130 UDR]300_White Stallion 4.esp/Feudal Empire [version 4.4, see crucial note below this list!]A Blades House.espAddendum - Diabloblivion.espAdenseEpicDungeon.espAdonnays Elven Weaponry.espAlchemistsCave-COBL.espAliveWaters.espAliveWaters - Koi Addon.espAliyah.espallinonebasemant_COBLnoCM.esp [2 ITM, 0 UDR]All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.1] found zero ITM, 3 UDRAmajor7 Imperial Furniture.espAmbientTownSounds.espApachii_Goddess_Store.esp [v1.6] 0 ITM, 3 UDRApachii_Heroes_Store.espArcana Restored.esp  [zero ITM, 3 UDR]Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp [Corruption present in plugin, see special instructions. Also has wild edits, German names, needs manual cleaning.]Artifacts.esp [1 UDR, 0 ITM, CRC: 66B9B580]Atmospheric Oblivion.esp [0 UDR, 1 ITM, CRC: 9A266EC1]Auriel's Books.espAyleidArrows.esp [77 UDR, 32 ITM, CRC: 1B13049A]bartholm.esp (version 7) [211 ITM, 553 UDR]BD&R - Deepgrave.espBeautiful_Women_NiceOnly.espBeldaElysium.esp Benirus Manor Remade.esp Better Clocks.espBHC_Expanded.esp [12 UDR, 2 ITM, CRC: C73A3567]Blood&Mud.esp 36 ITM, 401 UDMBob's Armory Oblivion.esp  [Version 1.1] found 6 ITM, zero UDRBook Jackets Oblivion.esp [234 UDR, 8 ITM, CRC: 88936850]Bruma Mages Guild Restored.esp - 4 ITM, 0 UDRBruma Mages Guild Restored Frostcrag.esp - 10 ITM, 0 UDRBXX_Mines.esp  [40 ITM, 23 UDR]C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp Castle_Seaview.esp CDEP-UnderpallCave.esp: 3 ITM, 246 UDRcf_Improved_Barter_Gold.espChoices and Consequences - MMM.esp --> Latest version is cleanChoices & Consequences - OOO.esp 0 ITM, 10 UDRChoices and Consequences.espCliff_BetterLetters.espCliff_CountyNames.esp ClocksOfCyrodiil.espCobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73] found zero ITM, 14 UDRCompleteMagePack.espCrowded Roads Advanced less crowded.espCrowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1] found 4 ITM, zero UDRCUO_Bravil.esp [v1.2] [42 ITM, 729 UDR, CRC A1A0CAA2]CUO_Bruma.esp [v1.0] [11 ITM, 5 UDR, CRC 79E62DCD]CUO_Chorrol.esp [v1.7] 29 ITM, 468 UDR, CRC A7AF03A3CUO_Leyawiin [v1.4] 47 ITM, 417 (estimated) UDR, CRC FF5FEEE3 [Gives error on undelete, still saves OK]Cybiades.esp 2 ITM, 0 UDRCyrodiil Border Regions 1.2.esp [not recommended to use this, use .ini tweak or Bash]Cyrodiil transportation network 1.3 WZ.esp(DC) Sutch Reborn.esp 8 ITM, 0 UDR Dark Illusion Armour (HGEC Version).esp - 11 ITM, 1 UDR DarkLeatherArmor.espDarknessHollows.esp [v1.6] 22 ITM, 0 UDRDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espDLCBattlehornCastle.esp 13 ITM, 74 UDRDLCFrostcrag.esp 73 ITM, 94 UDRDLCHorseArmor.esp 3 ITM, 0 UDRDLCMehrunesRazor.esp 21 ITM, 15 UDRDLCOrrery.esp 11 ITM, 2 UDRDLCSpellTomes.esp 40 ITM, 0 UDRDLCTheivesDen.esp 5 ITM, 135 UDRDLCVileLair.esp 26 ITM, 1 UDRDremoraCompanion.espDuke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.espDwarven Mines.esp 45 ITM, 0 UDREcho_ChapelChant.espEiAmod.esp emperorface.espEnhanced Daedric Invasion.espEnhanced Quest Roleplaying.espeyja.espFairies.esp - 62 ITM, 0 UDRFightersGuildContracts.esp [v1.2] 28 ITM, 9 UDR, CRC BB0D71D0First Person Messages.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [SI version] found 3 ITM, zero UDRGift of Kynareth.esp [3 refs to undelete]GlenvarCastle.esp [Contains a wild water height edit in cell (26, -42) of the Tamriel worldspace that should be removed.]Grandmaster of Alchemy.espGTAesgaard.esp [8 UDR, 107 ITM, CRC: 94A96B7D]hackdirtabyss.espHarvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp CRC ADFEEDB5Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp CRC 05003A29 HauntedHouse.esp - [5 UDR, 38 ITM, CRC: 2F2F9619]Haunted_House_v1.5.esp [5 UDR, 13 ITM, CRC: C61B8314]HauntedLairMod.esp [Recompile All mod]Heroes of Cyrodiil.espHoarfrost Castle.esp  [Version 1.2.2] found 4 ITM, 730 UDRHouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.espIllusionary Summons.espImmersive Travelers.esp  [Version 1.0] found 8 ITM, zero UDRIOM - Arena.espIvellon.esp  [Version 1.8] found 9 ITM, 13 UDRKDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp - [0 UDR, 2 ITM, CRC: A93FE8B0]kingdomofAlmar.esp [v1.4] 177 ITM, 31 UDR, CRC 72392FC9Knight of Skeleton.espKnightlyArmory.espKnights.esp  found 121 ITM, 257 UDRKvatchAftermath.esp [v7.8] 5240 ITM, 390 UDR, CRC 8997D4F1Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 1.1] found 26 ITM, 4 UDR, CRC 34A9FAC9KvatchRising.esp [v1.9] 220 ITM, 3 UDR, CRC 6C91CBEBLegendary Abilities-Shield MOJ.espLegendary Abilities-Reflect MOJ.esp [5 deleted, 0 undeleted]LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5] found 9 ITM, 152 UDR [Cleaning fixes potential CTDs]LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp [v2.5, 9 removed, 152 undeleted]LetThePeopleDrink-fountainonly.esp [v2.5, 6 ITM, 93 UDR]LetThePeopleDrink-fountainonly-Cobl.esp [v2.5, 6 ITM, 93 UDR]Living Economy - Items.espLorecreatures.esp - 36 ITM, 1 UDRLost Paladins of the Divines.esp  [Version 2.0] found 6 ITM, 3 UDRLostSpires_TheOrderofNibenay_patch.espLostSwordOfTheAylied.espLyn-StoriesFromTheSeaMod.espLynges_Thieves_Highway-10256.espMalevolent.espMannimarcoComplete.espMannimarcoRevisited.esp CRC E2BE41DA [gives error upon undelete about REFR:0000CC06, still saves ok]MD Saddlebags v3.0.espMidasSpells.espMighty Umbra.esp [1 dirty edit]MIS.espMIS Low Wind.esp [0 UDR, 2 ITM, CRC: F343D8EA]MODAssassinsCreed2_Revisited.espMoriarcis.espMorrigan Swords Axes and Shield by Jojjo v1_1.espMounted_Spellcasting.espMTCRiverShackv1.2.esp (version 1.2) 94 ITM, 5 UDR [contains deleted static record for 0008060C and one wild edit in CELL 0002FF46 (Bravil Skooma Den) to remove.]Mystery of the Dulan Cult.esp (Standalone plugin)Naked Nord.esp 18 ITM, 0 UDR [Includes single wild edit, so manual cleaning required]Nanaelas Heartbreak.espNascosto Isles 3.espNew Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.espNew Potions by Tealpanda.espNew_Sheoth_Palace_LOD_fix-10076.espnGCD pluginsNico Creations DW Light.esp: 1 ITM, 20 UDRNNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.espNNWARE2.esp: 11 ITM, 0 UDRNNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp NNWARE Series 1.esp: 20 ITM, 11 UDRNo psychic guards v1.2.espnoDem's City Life.espOblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp [1 ITM, zero UDR]OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp [45 removed, 0 undeleted]Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [v7.3] 173 ITM, 383 UDR, CRC 0440FF00P1DSeeYouSleep.esp  [Version 1.5.1] found 7 ITM, zero UDRpale_rider's Paladin Equipment_unenchanted_eng.espPearlFarm.esp [12 ITM, 0 UDR, CRC: 590DE30D] PersonalPackGuars.espPhoenixEquipment.espPJs Spell Compendium - Spell Requirements.espPortable Campsite.espProgress pluginsQarl's Harvest 1.1.esp - 8 ITM and 105 UDRQQuix Rock, Rock, Rock Your Ship v3.esp - 12 ITM, 0 UDRRainbows.esp CRC 71BDDEC0realistic water.esp [v3.0] ITM: 3, UDR: 0Reaper's Esmerelda Manor.esp: 48 ITM, 32 UDRReaper's waterfront.esp [ITM: 14, UDR: 60][NOTE: Standalone version only, BC integrated version is clean]rebornaylieds.espReznod_Mannequin.espROHJ2.espRoleplaying Dialogues.espRomancingAhnassi.espRTT.esp 32 ITM, 3 UDRRuin.espRuins of Tarnesia.esp  [Version 1.0] found 4440 ITM, 1 UDR + ideally needs manual cleaning tooSalmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [34 removed, 0 undeleted]Sauron_Armor_Chest.espSB IC Palace Tower Light Mod v1.1 - Constant Yellow Light.esp  found 2 ITM, zero UDRSecure Guild Chest.espSeductive Idles.esp - 3 ITM, 0 UDRSentientWeapon.espShadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.espShadow Ranger.esp: 19 ITM, 2 UDR Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.espSheogoraths_Accords_Of_Madness.esp [v1.4.1] 98 ITM, 71 UDR, CRC C7AFC21DShiveringIsleTravellers.espsir_balin_mod.espSK_Berserk_v0.6.espSlof's Horses Base.espSolace.espSonia.espSoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp [Has a lot of wild path grid edits too]Spells and Enchanting at guilds.espStar's Fury.espStokerWolff.espStorms & Sound.espsunk ships.esp [135 removed, 34 undeleted]Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp 0 ITM, 224 UDRTalosBridgeGateHouse.esp [15 ITM 31 UDR]tda_Armoury.esptda_WitchKingHelm.espT.I.E4MODS.espT.I.E4MODSOOO+FCOM.espTales From the Tomb.esp [v1.1] [1 ITM, 24 UDR, CRC 090F0F66]TamrielTravellers4OOO.espTemplar Fortress.esp (50 ITM, 892 UDR)The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4] found zero ITM, only 1 UDRThe Lost Spires.espTheElderCouncil.esp [v2.5] 274 ITM, 192 UDR, CRC 763FC748TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp [v1.5] 17 ITM, 0 UDR, CRC 5BEE0900TheForgottenShields.espThe Imperial Water - BETTER CITIES.espThe Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp 4569 ITM, 16 UDR [Better Cities replacer plugin is clean]TheNecromancer.esp [v1.7] 108 ITM, 178 UDR, CRC 06798B41TheOubliette.esp theivery.espTheStorytellersBrotherQuest.espThieves Arsenal.espTombstone Epitaphs.espTOTF.espTR_Stirk.esp CRC BAEEF8CFTRoN.espTyrael Companion.espUFF & RM Gold and Silver Daedric Armor.espUnderdarkSaga.espUngarion1TheWelkyndSword.espVAs Better Gold with no Menu Icon.esp  [no version number] found zero ITM, 1 UDRValenwood Improved: 173 ITM, 0 UDR.espValley_View_Estate.espVampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.espVaultsofCyrodiil.esp 15 ITM, 58 UDR Verwen Brewery UL_AY_AC Compatable.esp [1 ref to undelete]VHBloodlines 1.2.esp (Arthmoor has supplied an unofficial pre-cleaned version, recommended to use that instead of the main download. Only available for SI version.)*Visually Enhanced Arena.espWAC Birds And Insects.esp 11 ITM, 0 UDRWaterfront Shack.esp 1 ITM, 8 UDR, 15 NULL [Requires manual cleaning to get rid of NULL Refs. See below.]Wayshrines Improved.esp 13 ITM, 0 UDRWeaponsOfTheNine.espWellspring Vale COBL.esp - 2 ITM, 134 UDR West Roads  [Version 1.3] found 5 ITM, 10 UDRWeye.espWindfall.espwitchkingsword.espWOTFH_1.3.esp [error when undeleting records is OK]Your_Personal_Museum_Updated-9300.esp

*Unofficial fixed version of VH Bloodlines available http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36389


Special Cleaning Instructions:


300_White Stallion 4.esp


Requires custom TES4Edit work to fix errors or it can’t be saved. It's too complicated to list here, but it has to do with editing REFR:00092EC9 so that it uses the Upper version of the door and moving the door into the correct position. Copy the coordinates from REFR:020014BE then delete REFR:020014BE. This also applies to the renamed Feudal Empire version.

While we're talking about White Stallion/Feudal Empire, this mod also has a LOT of errors in the AI Packages. They currently have no faction assignments and need to be updated. You can open the mod in the Construction Set and go to AI Packages and find all the ones with null parameters. Change those to have the following two conditions:

Target no, GetFactionRank, LeyawiinFaction, >=, 0.00 AND Target no, GetFactionRank, KnightsWhiteStallion, >=, 0.00

If that is too much for you, you may be better off not using this mod.


Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp

This mod contains two cells that share the same FormID (DELETEDHdADungeon and DELETEDHdAHaus, with FormID XX000CE8). This will cause TES4Edit to error when you attempt to open the plugin to clean it. There are two methods to correct this:

1. Open the plugin in the Construction Set with Construction Set Extender installed and give one of the cells a new FormID. This is not recommended unless you are a highly experienced modder, though.

2. Use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2114 to remove one of the duplicated cells. Instructions follow:

Once, you have opened the plugin in TESSnip, locate the CELL records DELETEDHdADungeon and DELETEDHdAHaus (Fifth GRUP bunch down in the CELL GRUP, first Sub-Group). As you will be able to tell, these cells have identical FormIDs, and at least one of them needs to go. Given the prefix of the Forms, it is very likely that neither was ever meant to be seen in game, but this is something that really cannot be told at a cursory glance. Anyways, deleting at least one of these cells will fix the error.

This will allow you to edit the plugin in TES4Edit and clean things up.

Waterfront Shack.esp


Contains NULL Refs that must be deleted manually. These are the refs:

XX000EF9
XX000EF8
XX000EF7
XX000EFE
XX000EFB
XX000EFA
XX000EF6
XX000EF5
XX000EF3
XX000EF2
XX000EEF
XX000EEE
XX000EE9
XX000EE8
XX000EE7


Mods That Are Already Clean

1AzuSeraphimSet.espAFK_Weye.espAlchemy Book.espAlir'sArmor.espAll Natural.espAll Natural SI.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espAlluring Potion Bottles v3.espAlyeid Loot Extension.espAndragorn_Weapons_Armors.espAnduril Reforged.esp  [Version 1.31]ArmamentariumArtifacts.espArmamentium female.espArmory of the Silver Dragon.espArren.espArtifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.espArtifactsFemaleArmor.espAsharasCMPartners.espAT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.espAT2 02-Shiki Armor Set.espAtmospheric Oblivion.espattack and hide xxx v2.1.espAudaciousMagery.espBedrolls-OBSE.espBetter Cities (all files)BetterCoins.espBlackLuster.espBookCollisionTest.espBrinaCrossVillage.espBrinaCrossVillage - COBL.espBrina Cross - Unique Forts Patch.espC&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.espCamping.espCapesandCloaks.espCastle Redwort.espChapel Shop.espChaseCameraMod.espCobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]CM Partners.espCybiadesDungeon.espDACompilation_GO_SI_APN.espDA Sprint.espDAValeriaCuteElf.espDeadly Reflex Bow Sway.espDetect Life Shader [New].espDragonKnightArmor0.9.espDread Knight Armor.espDropLitTorchOBSE.espDS Flaming Arrows.espDungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.espEgress.espElsweyrAnequina.esp [Reports of ITM and UDR are all false positives. The mod is clean.]Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.1] Author: TheNiceOneEnhanced Grabbing.espEnhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.1.1] Author: TheNiceOneEnhanced Seasons.espEnhanced Vegetation xxx.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.espES4_Alchemists Reference.espEthereal - Eyes.espEVE_KhajiitFix.espEVE_KnightsoftheNine.espEVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espEY_BM_Armory.espExterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.espFastEquipping.esp  [Version 1.01]FineWeapons for OOO.espFormID Finder4.espFort Akatosh Redux.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [SI version]Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [SI version]Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [SI version]Get Wet.espGet Wet - just droplets.espGGValeria2_0.espGhost Rider Helmet.espGrimbotsSpellTomes.espGuards of Cyrodiil Redux.espHarvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.espHeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.5]Hemingweys Capes.espHigher Thieves' Guild Fence Amounts.espHUD Status Bars.esp  Author: TheNiceOneicPlayerHome.esp  [no version number] Author: StrotiImmersive Interiors.espImmersive Interiors - Lights.espImmersiveWait.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts – xxx (v2.8.0)ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles (all plugins)ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All the Castles -OCC.espImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All the Castles -OCR.espImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.espImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.espImperial Furniture Renovated.espKragenir's Death Quest.espKDCircletsOOOOptimized - Loot Only.espkuerteeCleanUp.espKvatchRankFix.espKyoma's Journal Mod.espLich King's Helm v1_0.espLoadingScreens.espLoadingScreensAddOn.espLoadingScreensSI.espLoths Blunt.esp (as of 3.0.1+)Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp  [Version 3.0.1]Mage Equipment.espMaleBodyReplacerV4.espMap Marker Overhaul.esp  Author: TheNiceOneMap Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  Author: TheNiceOneMergedMaps.espMiniMap.espMIS New Sounds Optional Part.espMMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]Moonshadow Elves - Sc.espMorrigan Armor Set v1_0.espMorrowind Robes and Dresses for HGEC.espMystery of the Dulan Cult.esp (Better Cities replacer plugin)Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espNicos  Scimitars Back.espNight Knight Armor.espNightshade_Armor.espNNWARE Rhyelia Emero.espNo More Annoying Messages.espOblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp [v1.4]Oblivion XP.espOL_MyBrumaFireplace.espOld Crow Inn (as of version 1.5)OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.32]Open Better CitiesOTEP - Aleswell.espP1DkeyChain.espPlate of the Shadow.espPowerAttack Voicemod.espPowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.espProgressMBSP.esp [v2.00]ProgressSBSP.esp [v1.00]ProgressRBSP.esp [v1.00]ProgressRacial.esp [v1.00]PTRoamingNPCs.espQuest Award Leveller and DLC patchesQuest Log Manager.espRealisticForcexxx.espRealisticMagicxxx.espReal Lava 1.3.espRealSleep.espReneersNotesMod.espReznod Mannequin.espRingwraithArmorSteel.espRustyItems for OOO.espSaerileth.espScript Effect Silencer.espSide's Sailing Ships.espSlof's Oblivion Robe Trader.espShadowWatcher_HGEC_v2.espShivering OOO.espSM_COBL.esp  [Version from Supreme Magicka 0.90b6 download]SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version from Supreme Magicka 0.90b6 download]SM_DLCSpellTome.espSM_EnchantStaff.espSM_MMM.espSM_OOO.espSM_Scrolls.espSM_SigilStone.espSM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version from Supreme Magicka 0.90b6 download]Smite of Order.espSPB Mercenary Armors.espSpell Delete.espStarX Vampire Deaths.espStarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp [Later versions have removed the NULL refs.]StealthOverhaul.espStopDarkBrotherhood.espSundered Keep.esp [v1.16]SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b6]Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.espSymphony of Violence.esptalkwithyourhands2.espTamriel Resource Pack.espTamrielTravellerAdvscript.espTamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.espTamrielTravellersItemsCobl.espTamrielTravellersItemsnpc.espThe Blade of the HauntedThe Power Attack Voice ModToaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.espToggleable Quantity Prompt.esptrfjBladeMasterSword.esptrfjSolarisStaff.esptrfjSpiderGreatsword.espTRN One of the GangTyrael Armor.espUFF & RM Black Plate Armor.espUnderworld Armor.espUnique Landscapes mods (all of them)Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]Unofficial Official Mods Patch (all plugins)Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]Update My Statue.espVanityCameraSmoother.espVASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.espVASE - Vanilla SI.espViconia.espVillages1.1.esp [Version 1.1b is clean. Not recommended to use previous versions, which are still dirty.]Visual Health Indication, Cobl.espVOILA.espWarglaives by Jojjo v1.0.espWeapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Enthusiasts.esp Willful Resistance.espWindowLightingSystem.esp  [Version 5.3.5]XiaNewAmuletsV1.espX.Races.Comp.espza_less_NPC_conversations.espArthmoor's mods...such as...Cyrodiil Travel ServicesFaregyl VillageNew Roads and Bridges RevisedOpen CitiesOpen Cities New SheothRAEVWD Cities.espRAEVWD Imperial City.espRAEVWD New Sheoth.esp

Mods That Should Not Be Cleaned

ArmamentariumArtifacts.espBG2408's mods (LAME, RBP, Integration)EXCEPTION: bgIntegration.esp contains a single deleted reference, but do nothing beyond addressing that.FCOM (None of the .esp/.esm files should be cleaned)Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp (author says to not clean)Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp (author says to not clean)Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp (author says to not clean)Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09] (do not clean core FCOM mods)Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm (do not clean core FCOM mods)Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp (do not clean core FCOM mods)Personality Idles - Modified version.esp (author confirmed that cleaning breaks functionality)SM Plugin Refurbish (Battlehorn and ThievesDen, specifically, but this goes for all the plugins) [contains dirty dialogue edits that are intentional for mod functionality, do not clean]SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b6] (Do not clean beyond what the author cleaned already) 

Oh, and please don't ask for implicit dependencies to be added for every mod here, I would have died three times over before I finished with that.

Thanks to:

Brumbek (For writing the guide)
Tommy_H (For reorganizing the lists)
ElminsterEU (For TES4Edit, none of this would be possible without it)

Might as well add Oblivion XP.esp to the clean list. It's actually just a set of quests and scripts, so it doesn't touch anything vanilla, but it's confirmation for those that don't know that. I did run it through the cleaning process and it's fine.

Is the ITM and UDR count on Bartholm for version 6 or version 7?

@andalaybay: Added, thanks.

@Arthmoor: It's for version 7. Entry updated to reflect that.

Ok i am in the process of re-installing OB due to a stupid mistake of mine with deleting the wrong exe file and just now i tested TalosBridgeGateHouse.esp with TES4Edit and got this result:



I did not save the changes for the moment because i am not sure if it is save to do so with this mod yet. Does any one know if this mod can be safely cleaned?

Reading this thread for the first time and realizing just how many of the mods I use could use some spring cleaning. Time to get out the mop and broom. Thank you for this, Thomas!

Question: Didn't Arthmoor just clean VHBloodlines?

Yes, but it's not an 'official' update in that you don't download it from the VHB download page, but somewhere else. Hence people are more likely to have the old, unclean version.

Yes, that's true, ninja, thanks. But it is still a 'clean' version. Perhaps a little note in the list to distinguish this before people waste time cleaning his version? Especially, as he points out, the version number of the file is still the same.
Not a big deal, it would just be helpful.

@Illius: Added, thank you.

@Hanaisse: I've provided a note regarding the clean version for the mod's entry. Do you think you could link to Arthmoor's cleaned plugin so I can direct people to it?

It's http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36389, on Nexus.

Keep in mind too that the version of VHB I have up is for SI. Non-SI users can't use it.

Are there special cleaning instructions for Naked Nord's wild edit? Guides for idiots (me) would be helpful.

Durham1984's original Tombstone Epitaphs Needs Cleaned.
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23680

*DANGER...DANGER WILL ROBERTSON*


I just tried to fast travel to the chestnut stables outside the IC where the Talos bridge begins, and the result was instant CTD. The most likely culprit was TalosBridgeGateHouse.esp, so i copied and renamed the TES4edit backup file of TalosBridgeGateHouse.esp and replaced the edited version with the original and there where no more CTD's.

So now we know that TalosBridgeGateHouse.esp should not be cleaned. :blush:

That is still good to know i guess.

Not necessarily true - I cleaned Talos Bridge and haven't had any issues with fast travel or walking into the area.

Keep in mind that a lot of crashes are random and have no identifiable cause. I've been through plenty of instances where things like that happen and even when removing a suspect mod entirely the problem still comes back later.

Hmm in that case i will keep an eye on it, thanks for the warning on that Arthmoor.

Just to second what Arthmoor said, a single CTD is not sufficient evidence of a problem with a specific mod. Many CTDs are just because of resource issues, or during transition between areas like going through a door when cells are being loaded and unloaded. These are just random and can't typically be reproduced - just part of playing Oblivion.

That said, consistent CTDs in the same location or when doing the same thing are another matter and require more direct debugging.

As mentioned i will keep an eye on it to see whether it happens more often, thanks.

Well that was fun. Some results you may be interested in.

Mods that need cleaning;
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp - 1 ITM, zero UDR (All other UOMP's clean but not listed?)
BXX_Mines.esp - 40 ITM, 23 UDR
Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp - 1 ITM, zero UDR


Mods that are clean;
AFK_Weye.esp
StarX Vampire Deaths.esp
X.Races.Comp.esp


Notables;
StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp - 101 ITM, zero UDR ---- but it's on the clean list? And they weren't null refs.
All Natural - Real Lights.esp is in both lists, but it does need cleaning (3 UDR). (version 1.1, it may have been cleaned recently)
Bartholm.esp version 6 is the same as version 7.

@Metallicow: Added, thank you.

@Hanaisse:


I think it would be best to wait for Arthmoor to respond to this one before it gets moved around. In the meantime, the UOMP has been added to the already clean list.



All added.


For which version, the latest?


This version is obsolete, AN is up to 1.2 now.


Any major changes that might turn someone off of using v7 in favor of v6? In any case, if the current version of a mod is dirty, it is a fair assumption that the previous versions were dirty, as well. Thanks for the info, though.

Must be from an old version. The copy from UOPS 3.3.5 is clean.

Same with AN-RL, 1.1 had some UDR's slip by but 1.3 is clean.

I'd be a bit careful of the first statement. I run Bartholm v6.97 on my secondary computer's Oblivion installation. My primary computer's Oblivion install includes Bartholm v7. If nothing else, their esps are different sizes, v7 being larger. There was, at minimum, one later v6 variant, v6.98. That might or might not have been identical to v7. I didn't keep that one so can't check file size.

Why didn't I keep v6.98 or upgrade my secondary computer to v7? v6.97 was the last version of Bartholm I could update to without having to do a "clean save" and begin the mod afresh. The game wouldn't launch after updating to v6.98. Being unwilling to start over again, I left v6.97 in place where it remains today. When I assembled my current primary computer mid-2010 I graced it with a new Oblivion install and a new play-through containing, amongst other things, Bartholm v7.

Whether my inability to update from v6.97 to v6.98 without a "clean install" is commonplace or unique to my particular situation I do not know. I see no other reason to stick with v6.

So yes, there are reasons someone might want to stick with a v6 variant. And yes, v6 needs cleaning too.

-Decrepit-

Hm, that was my mistake. I fixed so many things in it last year that I assumed I also did the normal TES4Edit cleaning job. Version BETA 3 (which should be clean) is now up at both TESNexus and TESA. Could someone check it out for me?

The new version is indeed clean. Thank you StarX! You know I love you and your work. :teehee:

As for the other things I reported, yes it seems I now need to go on an update spree while avoiding the lecture I know Arthmoor is dying to give. For Bartholm, there was something about v7 I didn't want so I didn't upgrade, others may feel the same and not know so I reported it.

Thanks Hana! Glad it's sorted now! :happy: