Search the Windows Registry for the file path, then correct it.

Well...that was embarrassing easy, thank you.
I hardly ever temper with the registry in fear of brutally killing windows.

I have download test 4 edit and have a question about howto clean a mod and why. I read a read me and it tells why and how to . My question can someone expalin in lamens terms how to clean a mod . Also, when to clean a mod and how often. I do get crashes to desktop and I have never clean mods before. Thanks in advance any help would be appreicated

I get an empty archive when downloading last version from Nexus. The file is the right size, but nothing is showing when i open it, and nothing is extracted when i try to. Someone else has this problem?

Retried to dowload it a couple of times of course before posting.

edit: nevermind. Just I-Zarc is unable to read it. Last 7-Zip works fine.

Is it possible to drag subrecords data from a RDAT of another plugin, or do I need to "add" a null reference and then drag? I'm trying to find a way to alter settings of a region more quickly than what the CS allows.

Have you tried loading both ESPs in TES4Edit, selecting each RDAT record, rght-clicking and selecting "Compare selected"? This might allow dragging from one to the other.

You need to have both plugins loaded and be able to see both of them listed in the right pane before this is going to work. Once that's done, you should just be able to drag from one mod to the other. If not, then yes, you'll need to "add" first and then drag.

Yeah, I've dragged before for other types of records, but I can't seem to see both side by side, strangely enough. Why would two different plugins named differently but identical in records not show side by side? Should I like, rename the 2nd duplicate region? nevermind that wouldn't work... somehow it has to be different to show side by side right?

heh, I just had a thought. What if I ESMify one, then drag and duplicate RDATs, then revert back to esp? :facepalm: or does that make sense to make comparisons that way.

nevermind that didn't work and I mistakenly said RDAT when I really meant RDOTs. (90 in total to be precise) See why I would prefer moving the data this way?

If you're talking about a second ESP that isn't changing records in the first, that's why they don't show up side by side. They are two different sets of FormIDs and can't be handled that way.

You may be able to get away with ESMifying one, and manually adding it as a master on the second one. If that doesn't work you're going to be stuck doing things the hard way.

Yes, that's what I'm talking about .. side by side. I tried the esmifying too. One last thing I'm going to do before I resort to doing it the hard way is changing a few records to conflict and then altering them correctly.
If that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to enter it one at a time. It's may seem trivial to others what I'm trying to solve, but truthfully, if a solution is found to handle the "bulk" copying, that would be very resourceful to others to know. ^^

Did you try what I suggested?

Nope, I am kind of stuck now. When I opened TES4Edit, I received an EOS error code of 8 (not enough storage), is that a memory issue? Also, I can't load the CS now too, it hangs/stalls at the facegen while opening the CS.

You need to detail exactly what you've done then because it sounds like you've got an endless dependency in the file's masters.

I added a plugin's data to it's ESM using Gecko "merge plugins", which means I changed the esm to esp first. Then I changed it back to an ESM (with the new data) using the "mergedplugin.esp" that I just saved. Renamed the ESM to original name (I do have a backup I've learned my lesson) and was going to cross check the data of the original plugin with the "new" esm. That didn't work, well I did manage to load it once to determine that it doesn't work, however I couldn't reload it after exiting. That's when I decided to check data in the CS and discovered I can't load the CS at all.
Just trying to figure things out, but it looks like I won't be able to find any shortcuts to moving RDATs over. I do have a backup, so I'll just go the slow and boring way. ^^

You've got what Arthmoor thought you might have





So what you ended up with is an ESM which is dependent on itself. If you want to merge an ESM with an ESP, use the "Merge to Master" option, don't rename the ESM to ESP (that won't stop it being an ESM) and don't use "Merge Plugins".

I guess you're just going to discount my suggestion without trying it then.

ahh, you're right, an endless dependence. And yes, i'm going to try your suggestion. have to clean up this mess first.

You're probably going to need to use Gecko or Bash to remove the bogus master file from the broken ESP now. Either that or restore it from a backup.

Hello, after someone claimed to have a complete CTD free game after cleaning his mods I tried following the tutorial he indicated:
http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit/Mod_cleaning_tutorial_with_TES4Edit

I cleaned "Frostcrag Reborn" who had a duplicate landscape entry all right, then tried to clean "Artefact of the ancestors"(v13) and I couldn't right click on the mod name to filter, after looking around I noticed an error message and a TES4EditException.log in the TES4Edit directory:

*** Server started *** Time: [296698250] 04/02/2010 20:45:59Exception: EAssertionFailedMessage: Found additional GRUP Cell Children of DELETEDHdADungeon "Hle des dunklen F・sten" [CELL:01000CE8] for DELETEDHdADungeon "Hle des dunklen F・sten" [CELL:01000CE8] (P:\TES4Workbench\wbImplementation.pas, line 6897)Filename: C:\Tmpo\Tes4edit\TES4Edit.exeFilesize:3753984Filedate:28/08/2009 20:06:56Callstack:[004E4B24] wbImplementation.TwbMainRecord.SetChildGroup (Line 6897, "ZLIBEX.pas")[004EFDB2] wbImplementation.TwbGroupRecord.BuildRef (Line 9257, "ZLIBEX.pas")[004D4CA1] wbImplementation.TwbContainer.BuildRef (Line 3112, "ZLIBEX.pas")[004EFD0C] wbImplementation.TwbGroupRecord.BuildRef (Line 9252, "ZLIBEX.pas")[004D4CA1] wbImplementation.TwbContainer.BuildRef (Line 3112, "ZLIBEX.pas")[004EFD0C] wbImplementation.TwbGroupRecord.BuildRef (Line 9252, "ZLIBEX.pas")[004D4CA1] wbImplementation.TwbContainer.BuildRef (Line 3112, "ZLIBEX.pas")[004EFD0C] wbImplementation.TwbGroupRecord.BuildRef (Line 9252, "ZLIBEX.pas")[004D4CA1] wbImplementation.TwbContainer.BuildRef (Line 3112, "ZLIBEX.pas")[00690D98] frmViewMain.TLoaderThread.Execute (Line 11208, "frmViewMain.pas")[00431638] Classes.ThreadProc (Line 9877, "common\Classes.pas")[00405540] System.ThreadWrapper (Line 12110, "sys\system.pas")============================================================== ***************************************** *** Fatal Exception Flag has been set *** *****************************************

Which leaves me with 4 questions:
-Is this mod corrupted beyond help?
-Does simply removing duplicate entries really improve stability that much(I can imagine it alleviates memory need but stability...)?
-Should I clean the FCOM mods?
-Is there a more advanced tutorial for finding problems beyond duplicate entries?

Thanks in advance .

Yes, I restored it and decided to go with the slow way, but I will give display's idea a whirl too.

I understand that there is both "Compare to" and "Compare Selected", but neither works for what I want to do. Since you know that I simply want to copy RDATs from one region to another as data moved, I tried making a duplicate of the original esp and would simply move them. But, a second column doesn't open for comparison. I think it's because there's no confliction? There is one region that does conflict because I made a change that affects the ESM, and it does appear for comparison in both esp's as well as the ESM. So I could alter the relevant data in either of the mods if I chose to. But it's not the data I want It's in another region. I tried "Compare to" and I opened the file, but no second column opens to compare to. I tried "Compare Selected", but that works for when I have differing records, not for my identical duplicate records in the second esp? I've used the function before all the time for cleaning and altering mods, using TES4Edit is extremely handy without going into the CS. So far it hasn't worked for the RDATs for me.

Well it works for me, I just tried it. RDAT is a tiny section of the REGION record, containing:
Type
Flags (only one flag to choose or not)
Priority

If you select one REGION record from one ESP, and another from a second ESP, then "Compare Selected" you get them both listed side by side, and you can drag the RDAT entry from one into the other.

That's strange, I know it works because I've used it for different records but never RDATs. I have a question though. For some reason the two colums are not showing the two mods. I want to compare and drag data within one mod, I just thought I would find it easier by making a duplicate mod to do that.
Could it be that it doesn't appear to me because the mods are identical? I really don't want to send them to you to examine because it would require downloading huge esm files.

I'll try again though.

I'm not entirely sure what you're describing here. I think you have one ESP and you want to duplicate the RDAT data from one REGION record into a number of other REGION records, and to do this you have duplicated the entire ESP to enable the dragging? If so, you don't need a second version of the ESP. Just load the one ESP, and select every REGION record you want to edit (including the one which already has the desired RDAT data). Then right-click on one of the selected records, and choose "Compare Selected". This will display all of those REGION records side-by-side in the right half of the window, where you can drag the RDAT across into each.

The problem is that it's not showing in the column for me to even select. Is there something I'm missing or doing wrong?

I did a test. http://www.4shared.com/file/216464734/e7d51c8c/Demtest.html

I created a ESM-nonlinked esp to make it easier. I got the same results, nothing is wrong with my TES4Edit (at least I think so). I think what's happening is I'm not describing exact details of what I wanted to attempt. I'll descibe what my results are.

* I created a new esp, nonlinked to any esm. This is because I'm working with some esp's that are.
* Opened my Region Editor>Tamriel>TestRegion>data copied 'AnvilCoastRegion' to the only region available there. Which is 'DemTEST'. DemTEST is basically flat and below water. I then renamed it to DemTEST01.
* I created a new region alongside DemTEST01, named it DemTEST02 and data copied 'DemRegion' .
* I saved the file.
* I created a duplicate of the file and loaded the Ob.esm, file and file - Copy.
* clicking on region>DemTEST01 of either esp will show the ESM and both esp's to compare. This is because DemTEST01 (in both mods) are modifications of an original region in the ESM. Both override with no conflicts.
* If I click on DemTEST02 of either esp., no columns open to compare that I can drag/paste to DemTEST01 of either esp.


Note: The difference between the two new regions is that one region has more data than the other. My goal was to drag/paste data from the large region (DemTEST02) to (DemTEST01), so that I don't have to do this through the CS. I constructed this test to show the simularities I'm experiencing.
If I was asked why not use the CS? The reason is that in my attempt to use the CS vs. TES4Edit, I find it much quicker and easier in making modifications in TES4Edit, especially when you have data that is numbering over 100 RDATs or for that matter, anything else that is extensive.

I think I rather go plot vertices for a tuba! :rofl: NOT