TESIV:POSItive --Performance, Optimiation & Stabilizatio : IV - Oblivion

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:48 am

You know, it's a bit odd that I can't find iShadowMapResolution in my Oblivion ini. I have the latest patch and everything.

EDIT: Just kidding... Found it.

Whew, good... I've been way out of it dealing with server problems from the start (and firewall setting problems...)

Hi Tomlong, I hope all is well

I've just installed all of the OMOD's and now want to use BOSS & Wrye Bash for LO & the bashed patch. I just have a few questions I was hoping you could help me with please:

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1)Now when I run BOSS (via wrye bash shortcut) are all of the bash tags it suggests automatically imported? Do I need to do anything with the bash tags? (I noticed when you right click on a tag it says automatic at the top).

Also in Wrye Bash under mods in the left hand window:

2) I have a few red check boxes next to mods; what does this mean?

3) I have only blue (.esm's), green (don't check) and ordinary text; I have no purple or italics. Is that right?

4)So assuming I don't need to do anything with the bash tags, do I check all of the mods apart from green text and then right click bashed patch > rebuild patch? > run TES4LODGen (via wrye bash shortcut).

5)Do I then move onto "first run guide"?

Thanks

1) You do not need to do anything. Bash automatically imports BOSS' tags (with the default, 'automatic', set.)

2) Those are either filter mods (if they have the relevant tag) or you are missing masters. The latter is bad, haha, so check the tags. If you are missing masters on a non-filter plugin, check the plugin's master list (second frame from the bottom, on the right.)

3) That is normal. It is possible to just have blue (ESMs) and black ("non-Bash-able" plugins.)

4) Yes.

5) Yes.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:32 am

@Tomlong
Thanks for clearing that up for me :goodjob: ; one more thing. Where you said:
EDIT:never mind about this I've removed it entirely......

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2) Those are either filter mods (if they have the relevant tag) or you are missing masters. The latter is bad, haha, so check the tags. If you are missing masters on a non-filter plugin, check the plugin's master list (second frame from the bottom, on the right.)

All of them are marked "filter" in bash tags apart from "Gates to the Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp". You may remember we discussed turning Gates to the Aesgaard.exe into an OMOD, I consulted the readme which said I could pack it into an OMOD. Unfortunately Gates of the Aesgaard 1 & 2.exe's have been put into the data folder and not executed; essentially screwing up my install order. Can I just run the exe's & then run BOSS again or would this mess with anything?

EDIT:but I could do with some advice on this please :

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I have rebuilt the bashed patch & now want to go through activating esm's/esp's while saving after each as described in your "First Run Guide". I was just wondering do I activate all the related ones in one "save & quit" for example:
After activating Oblivion.esm then running oblivion then saving & quit (the same for Jog_X_Mod.esm). Next we get to activate All Natural Base.esm; now do I also check All Natural - Real Lights.esp, All Natural.esp, All Natural - SI.esp, All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp all at the same time in one "save & quit"?. Then the same for OOO, MMM, Cobl etc? & at what point should the bashed patch be activated?

My LO:

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Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Jog_X_Mod.esm
02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9]
03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
06 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
07 CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
08 HorseCombatMaster.esm
09 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.6]
0A Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
0D SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30]
0E All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9]
0F All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9]
10 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final]
11 PowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.esp
12 Storms & Sound.esp
13 Cities Alive At Night.esp
14 WindowLightingSystem.esp
15 ClocksOfCyrodiilNoArcane.esp
16 Days&Months.esp
17 ImprovedSigns.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]
18 kuerteeSittableRocks.esp
19 P1DmenuEscape.esp
1A Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 4.0.5]
1B Crowded Roads Revisited.esp [Version 1.1]
1C FF_Real_Thirst.esp
1D Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02]
1E DLCHorseArmor.esp
1F DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
20 SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11]
21 DLCOrrery.esp
22 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
23 SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11]
24 DLCVileLair.esp
25 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21]
26 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
27 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
28 SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.30]
29 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
2A Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp
2B Slof's Boners! v5.esp
2C XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2]
2D Thieves Arsenal.esp
2E Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
2F DLCThievesDen.esp
30 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
31 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
32 SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.30]
33 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp
34 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
35 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
36 FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp
37 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
38 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-DLT_Remover.esp [Version 1.33]
++ OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]
++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
39 OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0]
3A Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0]
3B Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3C Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3E Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3F Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
40 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
41 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
42 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
43 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
44 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp [Version 1.2]
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
45 advlt_BookStore.esp
46 adTreeHome.esp
47 AlchemistsCave-COBL.esp
48 LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5]
49 Malevolent.esp
4A Naughty_Joana_01.esp
4B Skingrad Market 1.0.esp [Version 1.00]
4C Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp
4D TheElderCouncil.esp
4E TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp
4F thievery.esp
50 thievery - EE patch.esp [Version 1.0]
51 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
52 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
53 Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
54 Woodcutters_Cabin_COBL.esp
55 za_bankmod.esp
56 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
57 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
58 SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp [Version 1.30]
59 Lynges Thieves Highway - OOO.esp
5A DLCFrostcrag.esp
5B DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
5C SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp [Version 1.2]
5D Knights.esp
5E Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06]
5F Choices and Consequences - SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 2.0]
++ Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
60 TOTF.esp
++ TOTF Delayer.esp
61 RTT.esp
62 The Lost Spires.esp
63 Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
64 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
65 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
66 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]
67 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
68 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
69 Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp
6A kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp
6B PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]
6C ReneersGoldMod.esp
6D Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
6E Storms & Sound - Bank of Cyrodiil.esp
6F Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp
70 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1]
71 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
72 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]
++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]
73 Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]
74 RealisticFatigue.esp
75 RealisticHealth.esp
76 RealisticForceMedium.esp
77 RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp
78 RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.3.4]
79 MidasSpells.esp
7A Midas OscuroGems.esp
++ Midas Betterholy.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp
7B Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp
7C Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
7D StealthOverhaul.esp
7E StealthOverhaul, Cobl.esp [Version 1.1]
7F Stealth Entrances v1.esp
80 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
81 Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
82 Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp
83 RealisticLeveling.esp
84 Dark Dungeons - SI.esp
85 Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp
86 Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp
87 Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp
88 Let There Be Darkness - Thieves Den.esp
89 Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp
8A Let There Be Darkness - The Elder Council.esp
8B Let There Be Darkness - Thievery.esp
8C Let There Be Darkness - Lost Spires.esp
++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
8D Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]
** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]
++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]
8E Get Wet - just droplets.esp
8F Real Hunger, Cobl.esp [Version 1.6.1]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
90 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9]
91 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
92 Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp [Version 2.4]
++ Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer BETA.esp
93 Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.2]
++ Gold Change II.esp

Cheers

P.S Good luck with the new site!

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:42 pm

Ah any information of updated ways to make oblivion run better is more than welcome, Ill mark this for future references Thank you
BTW I have a pack with the meshes already optimized by PyFFI, this was done a modder who only did the vanilla arquitecture and wilderness, he did it on fast pc so it took much less time than when I tried to do it myself would those interest anyone here?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:40 pm

Sorry double post

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:12 pm

If they are the actual NIF files, they can't be distributed unfortunately. Copyrights and all that fun stuff. There is a pack of patches somewhere on the Nexus that still takes less time than Pyffi'ing it yourself though.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:39 pm

Hello,
I'm back at my fast computer :-)

. After the FCOM-install I've added a couple other mods, but somehow now I get a CTD every 10-20 minutes. I tried uninstalling some mods to pinpoint the problem, but I fail to see a pattern, though.
That's my current setup:

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Bain Packages:000 - ==Last==001 - ====Not installed====++ 009 - More_Immersive_Sound_Edited_1dot0-19038.7z (ECEEFF64) (Installed)++ 010 - Immersive_Combat_Music-23545.zip (5D46A42F) (Installed)++ 011 - Denock_Arrow-9333.zip (FC356E84) (Installed)++ 012 - Enhanced_Economy--INI--HED--_v41-25078.rar (FE49FAA0) (Installed)++ 013 - Actor_details_1p1-29127.zip (747F1356) (Installed)++ 014 - Formid_Finder_451-16704.7z (1E1A14D3) (Installed)++ 015 - Streamline--BAIN--INI--_v31-22170.7z (E6E804BA) (Installed)++ 016 - Streamline Patch--BAIN--INI_v31-22170.7z (66E3A767) (Installed)++ 018 - LessAnnoyingMagicExperienceEV_v17-20371.7z (5F151FEF) (Installed)++ 019 - Harvest Containers SI-Support--BAIN--_v09914-31799.7z (A5E2C247) (Installed)++ 020 - nGCD--INI--_vRC6-14065.zip (429F51FB) (Installed)++ 021 - nGCD_Skeleton_Key_update_vRC6-14065.zip (D80A3E21) (Installed)++ 022 - OMOBS_v10-28537.7z (EB1E2FED) (Installed)++ 023 - Reneers_Auto_Torch_Mod_v10-25692.zip (BA8EBA55) (Installed)++ 024 - Reneers_Corpse_Mod_v096a-8939.zip (E01479EB) (Installed)++ 025 - Reneers_Guard_Overhaul_v208-5977.zip (219297A8) (Installed)++ 026 - Reneers_NPC_Name_Mod_v11-26369.zip (4827B0ED) (Installed)++ 027 - Progress_OBSE-0018-pre--INI--HED--_v22-14304.zip (57DEFF12) (Installed)++ 028 - Reneers_Sailing_Mod_v096-16742.zip (E70FCA35) (Installed)++ 029 - StartChoices_v106-23757.7z (8867CBB1) (Installed)++ 030 - TQP_v311-12859.zip (363211C1) (Installed)++ 031 - Transaction-based_Mercantile_advancement--INI--_v111-14304.zip (BD284458) (Installed)++ 032 - UNKNOWNYMOUS_Social_NPCs_v10-31319.rar (6E16AD72) (Installed)++ 034 - CM_Partners_Mod_v20-7819.7z (C53995F5) (Installed)++ 040 - ArmaCompleteResources_v135-18417.7z (0C563558) (Installed)++ 041 - ArmamentariumComplete_v135-18417.7z (003AAA54) (Installed)++ 042 - ArmaComplete_Robert_Male_Body_v135-18417.7z (928721CC) (Installed)++ 043 - Artifacts_updated_v11-25309.7z (C0D5FD58) (Installed)++ 044 - Bobs_Armory_v11.7z (1E222C0B) (Installed)++ 045 - Loth_Blunt_Weapons_v301-12939.rar (E14D8906) (Installed)++ 047 - Qarl TP3 v1_3.7z (0C6B2A8E) (Installed)++ 049 - DLCBattlehornCastle.7z (AD5AF277) (Installed)++ 050 - DLCFrostcrag.7z (C3359A61) (Installed)++ 051 - DLCHorseArmor.7z (DC401274) (Installed)++ 052 - DLCMehrunesRazor.7z (CB413740) (Installed)++ 053 - DLCOrrery.7z (C8B28382) (Installed)++ 054 - DLCSpellTomes.7z (312156F8) (Installed)++ 055 - DLCThievesDen.7z (9668BB76) (Installed)++ 056 - DLCVileLair.7z (73AF429F) (Installed)++ 057 - Knights.7z (3A72700F) (Installed)++ 058 - SM_Plugin_Refurbish_v130-11474.7z (C1B789F9) (Installed)++ 059 - Unofficial_Oblivion_Patch_v320-5296.7z (BCBA7B56) (Installed)++ 060 - UOP_Supplemental_v326-27710.7z (7193864A) (Installed)++ 061 - Unofficial_Official_Mods_Patch_v15-9966.7z (59895567) (Installed)++ 062 - UOMP_MOBS_v15-17621.rar (440973B5) (Installed)++ 063 - USIP_v140-10739.7z (79CE866D) (Installed)++ 064 - USIP_MOBS_FCOM_v14-17621.rar (73F25676) (Installed)++ 065 - Shivering OOO_v10-12061.zip (57EFA4E7) (Installed)++ 090 - Apachii_GoddessStore_v15-13437.7z (786B260F) (Installed)++ 091 - Apachii_HeroesStore+HGECcupsFixedIcons_v11-22962.7z (5E874160) (Installed)++ 092 - Fran 4.5b-BAIN-.7z (14E4EBF6) (Installed)++ 093 - FranDarkSeducerWeaponsPatch.rar (39CA83B1) (Installed)++ 094 - FraNewItems_Optimized.7z (DB1D282F) (Installed)++ 096 - OOO--BAIN--_v133-15256.7z (AB5191F6) (Installed)++ 097 - Optimized_OOO_133_Meshes_v02-23202.rar (B9CE0556) (Installed)++ 098 - Imperial_Helmet_Fix_v02-23202.7z (B736E644) (Installed)++ 099 - OOO_Patch_v134B5-15256.7z (316172B2) (Installed)++ 100 - OptimizedOOO133b345Meshes_v-24511.7z (FE2EEE99) (Installed)++ 101 - Oblivion War Cry--BAIN--_v108.7z (061AEB0A) (Installed)++ 102 - OWC Patch--BAIN--_v1085b.7z (10BF6722) (Installed)++ 103 - Slofs_oblivion_robe_trader_v14-24320.7z (FF84266E) (Installed)++ 105 - MMM--BAIN--_v37b3.7z (BF28D4D9) (Installed)++ 106 - MMMDLCHorseArmorSlofs_v37b3-22771.7z (707F5582) (Installed)++ 108 - Cobl_v172-21104.7z (BFECAEE3) (Installed)++ 109 - FCOM_Convergence--BAIN--_v099-12249.7z (FC19131A) (Installed)++ 110 - FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.7z (7EB6028A) (Installed)++ 111 - Ufcom_v-.7z (62B956CB) (Installed)++ 113 - UL_-_Ancient_Yews_v142-11458.7z (6A1648F1) (Installed)++ 114 - UL_-_Arrius_Creek_v113-16818.7z (01513E8E) (Installed)++ 115 - UL_-_Aspen_Wood_v101-28763.7z (79FBDCCB) (Installed)++ 116 - UL_-_Beaches_of_Cyrodiil_-_Lost_Coast_v164-14720.7z (8AC2FD6C) (Installed)++ 117 - UL_-_Blackwood_Forest_v103-25799.7z (1E6701CA) (Installed)++ 118 - UL_-_Bravil_Barrowfields_v133-20426.7z (068EBA96) (Installed)++ 119 - UL_-_Brena_River_Ravine_v102-23573.7z (625419E4) (Installed)++ 120 - UL_-_Cheydinhal_Falls_v101-27494.7z (4CB1C17D) (Installed)++ 121 - UL_-_Chorrol_Hinterland_122-11189.7z (D7FCACA6) (Installed)++ 122 - UL_-_Cloudtop_Mountains_v103-16677.7z (9A002649) (Installed)++ 123 - UL_-_Colovian_Highlands_v121-15511.7z (0BEDF692) (Installed)++ 124 - UL_-_EntiusGorge_v12-7037.7z (E6B71A29) (Installed)++ 125 - UL_-_Fallenleaf_Everglade_v131-17562.7z (F32544B0) (Installed)++ 126 - UL_-_Imperial_Isle_v165-9531.7z (1E0A7B3F) (Installed)++ 127 - UL_-_Panther_River_v111-20332.7z (9B75A6AA) (Installed)++ 128 - UL_-_River_Ethe_v102-17330.7z (E3375CC7) (Installed)++ 129 - UL_-_Rolling_Hills_v132-10768.7z (D00AFADF) (Installed)++ 130 - UL_-_Skingrad_Outskirts_v100-29948.7z (60B36A6A) (Installed)++ 131 - UL_-_Stendarr_Valley_v122-7054.7z (DBE16D63) (Installed)++ 132 - UL_-_The_Dark_Forest_v105-11162.7z (30D9654B) (Installed)++ 133 - UL_-_The_Great_Forest_-_Ancient_Redwoods_v16-11163.7z (85C50DD9) (Installed)++ 134 - UL_-_The_Great_Forest_-_Lush_Woodland_v13-11164.7z (6C5C3EF5) (Installed)++ 135 - UL_-_The_Heath_v111-11165.7z (571EBD56) (Installed)++ 136 - ULLOD_AC_CF_EG_RH_v10-27495.7z (EE47BE93) (Installed)++ 137 - ULP_-_Ancient_Yews_and_Arrius_Creek_Patch_v11-16818.7z (E433DF5B) (Installed)++ 138 - ULP_-_The_Dark_Forest_-_Lowpolygrass_Patch_v105-11162.7z (F9D94D57) (Installed)++ 139 - ULP_-_LostSpires-DarkForest_patch_v11-13834.7z (89A631E6) (Installed)++ 140 - ULP_-_Bartholm-Panther_River_Patch_v10-13834.7z (05F0B3B2) (Installed)++ 141 - ULP_-_LostSpires-Everglade_patch_v12-13834.7z (B7DAE19E) (Installed)++ 142 - ULP_-_MMMMoreWildernessLife-Heath_patch_v30-13834.7z (E5B24988) (Installed)++ 143 - ULP_-_MMMMoreWildernessLife-Rolling_Hills_patch_v10-13834.7z (E7ABBB61) (Installed)++ 149 - Better_Cities_v452b-16513.7z (1FA1466D) (Installed)++ 150 - Better Cities Resources BSA_v452-16513.7z (ECBBC52B) (Installed)++ 151 - BCBravil-Barrowfields_patch_v28-13834.7z (BA1C2F19) (Installed)++ 152 - BCCheydinhal-CheydinhalFalls_patch_v11-13834.7z (A425DBC4) (Installed)++ 153 - BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland_patch_v15-13834.7z (C131032E) (Installed)++ 154 - BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts_patch_v10-13834.7z (6DD86051) (Installed)++ 156 - Cyrodiil_Terrain_Map_v25-2634.7z (10CA4276) (Installed)++ 157 - ATakesallandbook_omod_ready_v10-28461.7z (964E2DB3) (Installed)++ 158 - DarkUId_DarN_v16-11280.7z (F064E678) (Installed)++ 160 - Map_Marker_Overhaul_v34-26389.rar (04586546) (Installed)++ 162 - SI_Texture_Pack.7z (D801B651) (Installed)++ 163 - RAEVWD_v17-20053.7z (2B0ABEF0) (Installed)++ 164 - Improved_AmuletsAndRings_v11-17147.7z (B81A2B2D) (Installed)++ 165 - Improved_Bravil+Update_v11-10383.7z (A6F2A879) (Installed)++ 166 - Improved_Bruma+Update_v11-8954.7z (4E45D657) (Installed)++ 167 - Improved_Chorrol + Update_v11-9500.7z (6D401829) (Installed)++ 168 - Improved_Doors_and_Flora+Update_v11-8298.7z (D8179C74) (Installed)++ 169 - Improved_Fruits_Vegetables_and_Meats+Update_v11-10487.7z (9FA8942E) (Installed)++ 170 - Improved_SignsComplete_v12-9498.7z (7B1F6919) (Installed)++ 171 - Improved_Skingrad_v10-10381.7z (FA9A5BA0) (Installed)++ 172 - Improved_Soulgems_v111-4611.zip (A66FE30A) (Installed)++ 173 - Improved_Trees_and_Flora_v10-8500.7z (13A4054B) (Installed)++ 174 - Improved_Trees_and_Flora_2+Update_v11-11891.7z (F595B7CF) (Installed)++ 176 - Harvest_Flora_v301-2037.7z (9DD13311) (Installed)++ 178 - Natural_Faces_v095-1965.zip (B8029D49) (Installed)++ 179 - XRC_v13-29103.7z (7D77ED5F) (Installed)++ 180 - Rens_Beauty_plus_Soya_Hair_v10-14451.7z (AA5D7BD0) (Installed)++ 181 - Race Balancing Project - Installation Files Complete_v105-22124.7z (FD601B18) (Installed)++ 182 - Race Balancing Project EV_v105-22124.7z (12755A2E) (Installed)++ 184 - Robert Male Body_v5-25365.7z (EA1A2BCB) (Installed)++ 185 - Robert BASE 1st person fixes_v12-14982.7z (177CF3A3) (Installed)++ 186 - Robert Muscular Stock Clothing & Armor_v12-14982.7z (DFBC1F2A) (Installed)++ 187 - Robert Muscular SI Clothing and Armor_v11-14983.7z (8D3467F4) (Installed)++ 188 - Robert_Muscular_Fran_Armor_v10-15097.7z (3444DC75) (Installed)++ 189 - Robert_Muscular_MMM_Armor_v10-15096.7z (1E8FED6D) (Installed)++ 190 - Robert_Muscular_OOO_Armor_v11-14984.7z (533DB61E) (Installed)++ 192 - Female EyeCandy - Body Replacer_v10-10171.7z (BED73853) (Installed)++ 193 - HGECBody_v121-15802.7z (990BA6CF) (Installed)++ 194 - Body Seam Reducer-BAIN_v10-19738.7z (42772EAE) (Installed)++ 195 - EVE_HGEC_BodyStock_and_Clothing_Wrye_Bash_BAIN_v10-24078.7z (4C684974) (Installed)++ 196 - EVEUpperShirt04CcupFix_v10-24078.7z (DE7AECA8) (Installed)++ 197 - EVE_for_Francesco_BAIN_Installer_update_v10-24078.7z (736691AE) (Installed)++ 198 - EVE_for_Martigen_Monster_Mod_BAIN_V10-24078.7z (C5BFDAE2) (Installed)++ 199 - EVE_for_Oscuro_Oblivion_Overhaul_1_3_BAIN_v10-24078.7z (1FEE0F34) (Installed)++ 200 - EVE_Stock_Equipment_Replacer_for_FCOM_1_4_v10-24078.7z (761D67A5) (Installed)++ 201 - Ozmo_Tex_Mus_Nor_N1.7z (7A0DBD7C) (Installed)++ 203 - Enhanced Economy_Menus_v406-25078.7z (093698CC) (Installed)++ 204 - nGCD_menus-14065.7z (BB0A650D) (Installed)

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Harvest[Containers].esm05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]09  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0A  Better Cities Resources.esm0B  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0C  CM Partners.esm0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.6]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  Shivering OOO.esp11  Better Cities .esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  MIS.esp18  MIS Low Wind.esp19  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp1A  ImprovedSigns.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]1B  Immersive Combat Music.esp  [Version 1.00]1C  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.7]1D  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.5]1E  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.7]++  Harvest[Containers] - SI.esp1F  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.1]20  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.4]21  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]22  DLCHorseArmor.esp23  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 0.90]24  DLCOrrery.esp25  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]26  DLCVileLair.esp27  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]28  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp29  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2A  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp2B  DLCThievesDen.esp2C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2E  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp2F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]30  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]31  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp33  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp36  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]37  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]++  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]38  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]39  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]3A  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]40  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  Fransfemale.esp41  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]42  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp43  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]44  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp45  Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp46  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp47  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]48  DLCFrostcrag.esp49  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4A  Knights.esp4B  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]4C  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp4D  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4E  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]4F  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp50  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]51  xulTheHeath.esp52  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp53  XulEntiusGorge.esp54  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]55  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]56  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]57  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]58  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]59  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]5A  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]5B  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]5C  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]5D  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]5E  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]5F  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]60  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]61  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp62  xulPantherRiver.esp63  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]64  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]65  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]66  xulBlackwoodForest.esp67  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]68  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]69  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp6A  Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]6B  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]6C  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6D  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6E  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp6F  ImprovedSoulgems.esp  [Version 1.11]70  ReneerNPCNameMod.esp71  ReneerAutoTorchMod.esp72  RenCorpseMod.esp73  ReneerShipMod.esp74  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]75  ATakesAll.esp76  UNKNOWNYMOUS Social NPCs.esp77  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]78  StartChoices.esp79  RenGuardOverhaul.esp7A  Denock Arrows.esp7B  nGCD.esp++  nGCD Birthsigns.esp++  nGCD Skeleton Key.esp7C  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]7D  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]7E  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]7F  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]80  ProgressRacial.esp81  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]82  ProgressMercantile.esp  [Version 1.11]++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp83  X.Races.Comp.esp84  Ren_Soya_KD's.esp85  _Ren_BeautyPack_full + Soya's hair.esp86  CM Partners.esp87  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp88  CM Partners NPC.esp89  CM Partners More NPCs.esp8A  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp8B  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]8C  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]8D  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]8E  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]8F  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]90  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]91  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]92  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]93  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp94  Better Cities Full.esp95  BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp96  BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp97  BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp98  BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp99  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp9A  Better Imperial City.esp9B  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]9C  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp9D  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]9E  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp9F  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]A0  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]++  Artifacts - EE patch.esp  [Version 1.0]A1  Bashed Patch, 0.espA2  FormID Finder4.espA3  kuerteeActorDetails.espA4  Streamline 3.1.esp

Any obvious misconfigs? I'd greatly appreciate some help. I uninstalled all the quest mods so far, they don't seem to be the problem...

I also have another question. Is there a way to see the last notification message (upper left corner of screen) again? I mean the ones that say e.g. "Streamline initialized", "You succussfully harvested ..." and so on.
Cheers and have a great weekend!

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:07 pm

Ok finally getting around to re-PyFFIing my meshes.

Doing all the Official and DLC today (or tonight), but then is there a list of known BSAs or popular mods that need PyFFIing? I do use a lot of content discussed in this forum, so things along the OOO/FCOM line. I figured better than badgering 10 different modders in their threads about that - hopefully someone who has been through this ordeal knows off hand. Here is my load order if one would not mind taking a look:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9]
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
05 TamRes.esm
06 Harvest[Containers].esm
07 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
09 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
0A CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
0B TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
0C FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
0D Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
0E Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
0F Progress.esm [Version 2.2]
10 Oblivifall Master File.esm [Version 1.0]
11 Toaster Says Share v3.esm
12 MALO - MAIN.esm
13 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.6]
14 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
15 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
16 TamRes.esp
17 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
18 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
19 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
1A Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
1B Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1C FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1D Fran Armor Add-on.esp
1E Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
++ Francesco's No Reduced Backwards Running.esp
1F _Environments Mods Merged1.esp
20 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9]
21 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9]
22 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final]
23 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
++ Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp [Version 0.1]
++ Symphony of Violence.esp
24 MIS.esp
25 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
++ Diverse Voices.esp
26 PowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.esp
27 WindowLightingSystem.esp
28 Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp
29 Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp
** Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
++ Cobl Bookjackets.esp
++ FrbitPotionReplacer.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]
2A QZ Easy Menus.esp
2B Game Tweaks Early.esp
2C Home Care Mods Merged.esp
2D CNRP 4 OOO.esp
2E ImperREAL IC + Additions.esp
++ Harvest[Containers] - SI.esp
++ Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp
2F Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 4.0.6]
30 Choices and Consequences.esp
31 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.4]
32 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.0.2]
33 sr_super_hotkeys.esp
34 Armor and Weapon Quests.esp
35 DLCHorseArmor.esp
36 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp [Version 0.91]
37 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
38 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
++ Mehrunes_mobs.esp
++ YX33A Razor Edit.esp
39 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
** Book Jackets DLC.esp
++ GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
** ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
3A ClassyClothingCompendium.esp [Version 1.2]
++ CSR - Fine Iron.esp
++ CSR - Golden Saint.esp
** Armamentium female.esp
3B HorseGearBags.esp [Version 1]
3C HorseCommandStone.esp [Version 1.0]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - Hemingweys NPC and Guard Capes.esp [Version 1.0]
3E MALO - Guild Tweaks.esp
3F KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2]
++ FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp [Version Beta]
40 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp
41 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
42 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
43 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
44 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
45 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
46 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
47 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
48 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
49 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33]
4A Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0]
++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
4B ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
4C OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp
4D MALO - Clutter Replacer.esp
4E MALO - Vendor Additions.esp
4F MALO - Loot Tweaks.esp
50 MALO - Loot Tweaks DCRP.esp
51 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
52 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
53 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
54 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
55 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
56 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
57 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
58 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 1.4]
59 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ MALO - Clutter Replacer MMM - HUNT.esp
5A Choices and Consequences - MMM.esp [Version 0.1]
5B TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
5C FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]
5D ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.40]
** TamrielTravellersHorseTextures.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
5E Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp
++ EQR_-_FCOM.esp
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
++ Atmospheric Oblivion - MMM Patch.esp
++ Atmospheric Oblivion - OOO Patch.esp
++ Fransfemale.esp
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
** RustyItems for OOO.esp
** Fine Weapons for OOO.esp
++ OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]
++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
5F Dungeons Merged.esp
60 SI Dungeons Merged.esp
61 KvatchAftermath.esp
62 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]
63 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
64 BHC_Expanded.esp [Version 1.2]
65 Demonhunter.esp
66 Duke Patricks - HammerBlade.esp
67 Gaelendryl.esp
68 Gift of Kynareth.esp
++ Gift of Kynareth_delayer.esp
69 Shezrie's Villages.esp
6A kingdomofAlmar.esp
6B Kragenir's Death Quest.esp
6C KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp
6D OldCrowInn.esp [Version 1.5]
6E The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.3.2]
6F TheElderCouncil.esp
70 TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp
71 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.4]
72 DLCfrostcrag.esp
73 Knights.esp
** Knights - Book Jackets.esp
74 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
++ MOBS_Knights.esp
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
++ KotN Wayshrine Fix.esp
75 SM Plugin Refurbish Minus BH-Orrery-Vile-Thieves.esp
76 RTT.esp
77 RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp [Version 2.0]
78 AFK_Weye.esp
79 GuardsofCyrodiilRedux.esp [Version 1.02]
7A Mighty Umbra.esp
7B Blood&Mud.esp
7C The Lost Spires.esp
7D Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
7E Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 6]
7F TheNecromancer.esp
80 HoarfrostCastle.esp
81 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]
82 FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp [Version 0.9.9]
83 FCOM_OMG.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_OMGSRT.esp [Version 0.9.9]
84 Origin of the Mages Guild OOO Patch.esp [Version 5.0.FINAL]
85 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
++ FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.9]
86 EDI - Less Monotonous DOT.esp
87 ElsweyrAnequina.esp
88 Tamriel Houses Merged.esp
89 SI Homes Merged.esp
8A road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.5]
8B Feldscar.esp [Version 1.0.2]
8C Vergayun.esp [Version 1.0.4]
8D Faregyl.esp [Version 1.0.10]
8E Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp
8F xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
90 LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
91 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
92 xulTheHeath.esp
93 XulEntiusGorge.esp
94 KvatchAftermath-EntiusGorge compatibility patch.esp
95 TheNecromancer-EntiusGorge patch.esp
96 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
97 TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]
98 Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp
99 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]
9A xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
9B xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
9C xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
9D KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp
9E xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
9F xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]
A0 HoarfrostCastle-LushWoodlands patch.esp
A1 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2]
A2 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
A3 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
A4 KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp
A5 Ravenview-Cloudtop-Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
A6 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
A7 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
A8 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]
A9 KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp
AA xulPantherRiver.esp
AB xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
AC xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]
AD Gaelendryll-BrenaRiver patch.esp [Version 1.1]
AE xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5]
AF xulBlackwoodForest.esp
B0 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
B1 Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
B2 GiftOfKynareth-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
B3 Villages-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
B4 DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
B5 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1]
B6 Lakewood+AspenWood Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
B7 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
B8 BarrowFields-Blood&Mud-Patch.esp [Version 1.3]
B9 Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
BA NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp [Version 5.0.1]
BB NRB4+RR Patch.esp [Version 2.1]
BC bartholm.esp
BD Fort Akatosh Redux.esp
BE FortAkatoshRedux-NewRoads&Bridges patch.esp
BF Legion Ranger Addon.esp
++ Cyrodiil Legion Addon.esp [Version 1.3]
++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]
C0 NPC new clothes V2.6.esp
++ FCOM_NewNPCClothes.esp
C1 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
C2 Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp
C3 Quest Award Leveller.esp
++ Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp
C4 Dialogue Mods Merged+.esp
C5 Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp [Version 1.2]
C6 Oblivifall - Let's Talk!.esp [Version 1.1]
C7 Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp [Version 1.0]
C8 Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp [Version 1.3]
C9 Game Tweaks Late.esp
CA Duke Patricks Sickness+Health Alarm.esp
CB kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp
CC ReneerNPCSneakMod.esp
CD RealisticFatigue.esp
CE Combat Tweaks Merged.esp
CF Display Stats.esp [Version 1.1.1]
D0 Duke Patricks - Nosferatu Class Vampires.esp
++ SigilStonesUnlevelled - SSEE-OOO.esp
D1 SSEE-OOO.esp
D2 Magic Tweaks.esp
D3 kuerteeMagickaBasedMagicJeweleryLimits.esp
D4 EnchantmentMastery.esp
D5 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]
++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]
++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]
++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]
D6 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]
D7 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]
D8 MidasSpells.esp
++ MIEO.esp
D9 AudaciousMagery.esp
DA RshAlchemy.esp
DB StealthOverhaul.esp
DC Morrowind Lockpicking.esp
DD SM Bounty.esp [Version 1.22c]
++ CoblDeathFix.esp [Version 1.20]
DE Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]
DF SMCombatRegen.esp [Version 1.00]
E0 kuerteeNPCsYield.esp
E1 nGCD.esp
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
E2 Progress Plugins Merged.esp
E3 CompanionMaster.esp
++ Better Redguard v2.esp
++ TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp
E4 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
E5 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
E6 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]
E7 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
E8 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
** Let There be Darkness-Merged.esp
++ Life Detected - Skeleton - Tiny - 2.esp
++ Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp
E9 Shining Creatures.esp
++ Shining Creatures_DLCFrostcrag.esp
** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++ CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp
++ kuertee MMM OnLoadCS disabled hmf effects.esp
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33]
** LoadingScreens.esp
EA bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.96]
EB Bashed Patch - John.esp
EC Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp
ED Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp
EE Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
EF Duke Patricks - Basic Combat Geometry.esp
F0 Duke Patricks - Everyone Or Just Vampires Now Bob And Weave.esp
F1 Duke Patricks - Momentum Damage And Jump Risk.esp
F2 Duke Patricks - SCA Shield Tricks.esp
F3 Duke Patricks - SCA Melee Combat with NO RECOIL.esp
F4 Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp [Version 2.6]
F5 Duke Patricks - Double Arrow Nock Shot.esp
F6 Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp
F7 Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.2]
F8 Streamline 3.1.esp

I assume Dragon Captions stuff needs it, but uncertain about things like OOO/FCOM.
Also then is there a problem with foreign language file names (ie things like those found in B&M or Ivellon, etc).

Also then there is this bit with reference to Vorians and far nifs:

Further optimization with PyFFI for _FAR NIF files ONLY! --Vorians

"C:\Program Files\Python26\python.exe" "C:\Program Files\Python26\Scripts\niftoaster.py" fix_deltangentspace Meshes

What the heck does that mean? I assume I'm to insert a line of text into a python file, but cannot find where it goes. That needs more explaining please. I mean a few extra sentences would shed so much more light on that arcane bit of tech-spiel.

Then why is BSA rest timestamp not as safe as a file redater and what file redater do you use?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:39 pm

Ok finally getting around to re-PyFFIing my meshes.

(snip...)

What the heck does that mean? I assume I'm to insert a line of text into a python file, but cannot find where it goes. That needs more explaining please. I mean a few extra sentences would shed so much more light on that arcane bit of tech-spiel.

Then why is BSA rest timestamp not as safe as a file redater and what file redater do you use?

In General, mods should come with meshes already pyffied. Don't worry about the big overhauls, I think CorePC and others already made pyffi meshes.

About the quote, it's a command you pass inside the terminal, or Windows "Command line". Vorians is recommending using only the defined terms to pyffi *_far.nif files. It literally means "use python (python.exe) to run niftoaster (the niftoaster.py python script) with these options only (fix_deltangentspace) on the folder Meshes".

The folder meshes, in this case, is the folder you keep the *_far.nif's. This also means you have to organize your folders to separate these files.

The way I understand it, it goes something like this (correct if I'm wrong): backup *_far.nif files according to the folder structure they're in (place a copy of them in some folder, for example "_far meshes"). Run a regular pyffi pass on the entire meshes folder (proceed as suggested on the site). Make the pyffi pass on the "_far meshes" folder with Vorians suggested settings. Overwrite base mesh folder with the custom optimized files inside "_far meshes"

As for the OBMM time stamp utility, I think it redates all the BSA's to emulate something like ArchiveInvalidationInvalidated!.bsa. I only used it once in the past so I don't remember if it had more repercussions.
With a simple file redater, you are making sure nothing else is touched besides the file you are working on..

I'd recommend http://no-nonsense-software.com/freeware/

(edit:) After you pack the pyffi'ed meshes inta a bsa, change the "modified" date to the same date as the original (Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, for example, is 29 Jan 2006, 22:53:40).

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:59 pm

About the quote, it's a command you pass inside the terminal, or Windows "Command line". Vorians is recommending using only the defined terms to pyffi *_far.nif files. It literally means "use python (python.exe) to run niftoaster (the niftoaster.py python script) with these options only (fix_deltangentspace) on the folder Meshes".

The folder meshes, in this case, is the folder you keep the *_far.nif's. This also means you have to organize your folders to separate these files.

The way I understand it, it goes something like this (correct if I'm wrong): backup *_far.nif files according to the folder structure they're in (place a copy of them in some folder, for example "_far meshes"). Run a regular pyffi pass on the entire meshes folder (proceed as suggested on the site). Make the pyffi pass on the "_far meshes" folder with Vorians suggested settings. Overwrite base mesh folder with the custom optimized files inside "_far meshes"

Thanks for link to redater.

As for the instructions - I'm sorry but I need my hand held a bit more than that. Are you saying use a command shell to do a DOS command?
If not then you really lost me there.
I'm on Vista if that matters.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:10 pm

Are you saying use a command shell to do a DOS command?
If not then you really lost me there.
I'm on Vista if that matters.

Well, yes, it's a command shell command (pass the redundancy:D )

It's also the simplest way to choose the options (or arguments) you want the program to run (niftoaster python script) since there isn't a version of PyFFi with an user interface.

(On a side note, since there aren't point and click windows, menus and options it can be more difficult to understand "what does the program do, anyway?" without looking at the niftoaster documentation first).

BTW, I'm on windows 7. I didn't refer to the command line as something like "run a DOS command" because DOS was an old operating system, no longer in use. But if that rings a bell, basically, running a program in the command line can be thought of going back to old times.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:17 pm

Even though my first computer didn't even have a mouse (first apple home computers) and I dropped out of computer science in favor of psychology - I'm still a bit slow with computers at times.

I remember DOS very well and was under the impression even windows OS sat on top of a DOS like system (more redundancy for ya).

So then I can just copy paste that into the cmd prompt and then run the PyFFI like normal and it will optimize far nifs?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:02 pm

Even though my first computer didn't even have a mouse (first apple home computers) and I dropped out of computer science in favor of psychology - I'm still a bit slow with computers at times.

I remember DOS very well and was under the impression even windows OS sat on top of a DOS like system (more redundancy for ya).

So then I can just copy paste that into the cmd prompt and then run the PyFFI like normal and it will optimize far nifs?

Np. while copy-pasting, just make sure you point to the correct folder directory you want to run PyFFi optimization.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:50 pm

OK no sorry that isn't clear.

I need a blow by blow ... and really why that isn't on the main post is beyond me.

Like:
1. open cmd prompt
2. Copy entire text into cmd prompt making sure what matches what?
... which folder? I'm using the in and out folder of method "Run PyFFI" Steps ... then in the cmd shell I would need to change what in the code box? Neither address seems to be about the location of where the PyFFIing is done.

... is it just that I need to change the file path to match where I have Python installed (very close anyway). Your comment "just make sure you point to the correct folder directory you want to run PyFFi optimization" confuses me.

Sorry to be so thick. I'm sure this is probably explained in great detail in some arcane nook of one of these threads. Certainly it does not seem to be where it would be needed most: in the instructions of the first post.

[edit]
well I think it worked here is what I copies out of the cmd window after the operation was done:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright © 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\XXXXX>"C:\Python26\python.exe" "C:\Python26\scripts\niftoaster.py" fix_deltangentspace meshes
This script will modify your files, in particular if something goes wrong it
may destroy them. Make a backup of your files before running this script.

Are you sure that you want to proceed? [n/y] y
pyffi.toaster:INFO:Finished.

Will run this gizmo on the bulk of the main meshes while I sleep.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:45 am

C:\Users\XXXXX>"C:\Python26\python.exe" "C:\Python26\scripts\niftoaster.py" fix_deltangentspace meshes

You told Python to run niftoaster with fix_deltangentspace on the folder "C:\Users\XXXXX\meshes".

If this is the folder where you have the copies of the *_far.nif files, then it's all good.

After you run the PyFFi procedure on the main meshes folder (the one which includes all other meshes) all you have to do is to copy-paste the custom optimized *_far.nif in it (so you get the ones with the correct optimization suggested by Vorians, and not the generic optimization that is applied to all other meshes).

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:10 pm

NO that is not where the far nifs are my tired brain thought that is where the niftoaster.py is at.

I thought the instructions were to alter that script.

errr ... :brokencomputer: ... well I guess I'm running this thing again tonight as I don't feel like fishing through all the folders to find the far nifs. damn

[edit] so then if there is far nifs in more than one folder (such as various architecture folders) then would I need to perform that cmd prompt several times - that seems cumbersome. Can't I just point it to the in folder of the PyFFI structure?

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:29 am

I wouldn't worry about the custom optimization on the *_far.nifs because, as I understand it, it is an extra optimization. Just apply the normal suggestions in the website and you're good to go.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:25 am

Well I don't mind running it again I just need to know if I need to run that cmd at each folder or can I just target the in folder.

My plans have changed I'm going out to see that silly prince of persia movie so I've got time. That is unless it does require being implemented folder by folder. How many directories up can it be?

Look I'm sorry I'm being thick about this but you gotta admit that on this thread the instructions for the rest of PyFFI are pretty detailed while this a footnote of insider spiel.

Yes I want the 'further' (not customized) optimizations. Yes I want to master this not give up in a huff.

If I'm going to need to re-cmd at each folder I just need to know before I set this to run again.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:03 pm

I have a question:

The Vanilla meshes with leading spaces (to watch out for when you repack your BSA)

Delete the duplicates files created during the copying process, the cave meshes (copied from the "out" folder) that had the leading spaces truncated. (listed above)

Well, the ones in "out" folder retains their leading spaces, so what should I do with them?

Also, what do you mean "copied from the out folder"? Do I have to move the items from "out" folder to somewhere else before I pack them back? Why?

Files that PyFFI cannot handle. Add the part in quotes to your skip list.

PyFFI truncated a good chunk of 250KB from that nif, and since I didn't include it in "skip" list, I simply replaced the PyFFI-ed one with the original one from "in" folder. But since PyFFI actually processed the thing, should I really do that? I mean, 250KB is not small...

One other thing:

Remember to set the path to your Python folder (usually first level on your local disk) in the default INI.

I'm sorry but, if anything, this sentence is completely uninformative, because:

[main]; default folder to toast; should *not* end with a trailing slashfolder = ./in[options]; set this to the number of cores you havejobs = 2; default source directory (for determining paths to write in destdir,; usually identical to folder); should *not* end with a trailing slashsource-dir = ./in; default destination directory; should *not* end with a trailing slashdest-dir = ./out; resume support (if True, nifs that already exist in destination; folder will be skipped)resume = True; if True, pause when donepause = True

That's the contents of default.ini, where should I set the path then? And what is the format? An example, I think, is in order

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:06 pm

I agree about lack of informative instructions, can't help you there. If someone would help me with my above portions I will rewrite that section to be more helpful and submit it for inclusion myself.

But I do know about repacking BSA files. PyFFI will not address all meshes and certainly not those already on the skip list, so you will need to either:
1. copy over the skipped files from the in folder to the out folder choosing to not overwrite anything, or ...
2. copy over the newly PyFFI'd meshes from the out folder to the in folder making sure to overwrite all.
either way should work. That way you will be sure to get all the meshes included once again.

If you Operating System is XP or older (can't imagine older) then the leading spaces problem should not be there. The leading spaces problem is what made me ditch my whole optimized BSA back a year ago - and no else had reported the problem for months it seemed.

I believe Arthmoor has included a fix of sorts in the latest UOP update, so even if you do have the issue using the UOP will fix it.

the part about python directory - I didn't get it and didn't do it and it still found python and optimized. Could be outdated info.

I'm not sure what you mean by:

PyFFI truncated a good chunk of 250KB from that nif

... what nif? you mean the meshes in general?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:39 pm

Just what exactly is the problem with the leading spaces? Which ones should I keep? The one with spaces or the ones without? The instruction implies PyFFI will spit out files without spaces, but here I am with files with spaces. I'm lost here...

Also, is there a definite reason as to why I can't pack the bsa from "out" folder? Does that mean I can pack BSA from "in" folder?

EDIT: No, the "nightmotherstatuebase" nif. The instruction said PyFFI can't handle it, and I should skip it, but since PyFFI deleted 250KB worth of data from that stuff (which original size is 1MB, and after PyFFIed becomes around 700KBs) I'm a bit in doubt. I mean, 250KB might mean performance boost

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:04 pm

Well if your Operating System can't deal with leading spaces and takes them out and you repackage the BSA then the Oblivion.esm will still have assigned the file path with the leading spaces and you will get what I had a year ago which is numerous caves with the entrance rocks missing. Like http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo54/psymon11b/MissingEntranceafterPyFFI_2.jpg or http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo54/psymon11b/MissingCaveentranceafterPyFFI_1.jpg or http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo54/psymon11b/MissingMossRockafterPyFFI.jpg.

And once again - if you use the UOP this is now addressed (unless I'm wrong) by the UOP redirecting to use the non-leading spaces and including those meshes without leading spaces.

If you repack from the in folder without overwriting the meshes from the out folder then you will get the same bsa you started with. The whole point of the skip list is that it will not address every mesh, so the meshes that were skipped have to be put back in using either method of overwriting as I described above.

Even though it optimized the statue - it does not mean that it would look right in game. That is why certain things make the skip list. http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo54/psymon11b/PyFFI-Helmetbad.jpg of what it will do to helmets. (can't believe I still have this up on photbucket).

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:25 pm

Thanks for the info

glad to know the reason. My OS is Windows 7, and it looks like it can handle leading spaces after all.

I meant what is wrong with the "out" folder. If I copied the files from "in" into "out", skipping all redundant item in the process, shouldn't it make as ideal folder to pack a BSA from as any other folder?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:47 pm

I meant what is wrong with the "out" folder. If I copied the files from "in" into "out", skipping all redundant item in the process, shouldn't it make as ideal folder to pack a BSA from as any other folder?

Yes and that is the instructions as I understand them:

4. When its done, copy the contents of the "in" folder into the "out" folder, and choose "no to all" when prompted to overwrite.

You're welcome glad my once mysterious pain in the neck issues can be of service to someone.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:53 pm

I'm currently mid-way through setting up modded Oblivion on my gaming pc again, and was using TES:POSItive as a resource, when I came across this short description of All Natural:

All Natural (AN) - the weather mod of weather mods, syncs interior and exterior weather, see outside weather from inside inside, and now real lights included too
>> notes: This mod includes the three most popular weather mods (Atmospheric Weather System, Enhanced Weather, Natural Weather), succeeds Illumination Within and also has a Realistic Lighting modules. The original files are not needed. It allows you to use any combination of the above mods. Darker Nights is included too.

on the http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/baininstallguide/downloadmods page. It's wrong in saying it succeeds Illumination Within, that's AWLS. AN supercedes Natural Interiors is probably what you meant.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:26 pm

Thanks for the info

glad to know the reason. My OS is Windows 7, and it looks like it can handle leading spaces after all.

I meant what is wrong with the "out" folder. If I copied the files from "in" into "out", skipping all redundant item in the process, shouldn't it make as ideal folder to pack a BSA from as any other folder?

Raestloz, I think you better Verify that you still have spaces after moving your files... (Win 7 cuts them off for me, but I have Win 7-64(could be differant))

TESIV:POSItive --Performance, Optimiation &#38; Stabilizatio

TESIV:POSItive --Performance, Optimiation & Stabilizatio