I dont want it on steam. The reason being is while steam is great, one time my internet went out so i was like hey ill just play a single player NON-online game, i bought the game off of steam. So i went to play and what do you know to play the freaking NON online game i had to be online because steam wanted to update.... and since it couldnt update it said u cant do this in offline mode and then shut down again and i couldnt play my game so i said [censored] and went to watch tv.

Can you use mods and the CS with Steam?

If so then I'm fine with it, otherwise I disagree with the idea.

Yes. In fact, Valce worked with the creators of OBSE to get it to work with the Steam version of Oblivion, iirc.

I think it should be like the current TES. A Steam version and a version you can buy in shops. I use steam alot but I dont like it when I get hacked. I think programmes like steam will be the future.

One thing I like about Steam is the easy access to the WWW in-game, if I need to check up something on UESP whilst playing Oblivion, SHIFT-TAB, use the Steam Browser, success!
I'll never misplace a game again! Not to mention the awesome Steam servers, but I wish some of you guys had Steam too...I was playing Left 4 Dead and ended up being team-killed by a French kid. He got pwned by a Tank without MY help. :flamethrower:

Would be good to have the physical copy independent of Steam, but required download and one-time connection to Steam wouldn't be too bad either. It would be annoying, but really not much more than that.

If they decide to make Steam required (like with FO:NV), which isn't entirely unlikely, I hope they at least give us features to enjoy:
- Game runs without disk. (As far as I understand, that's basically part of the deal anyway.)
- Automated updates. (Same.)
- Mod database and make those update automatically as well.
- Some extra free content, like make some of those small DLCs (remember the horse armor?) available free of charge after a year or so, as a surprise.
If they'd do all that, Steam would be a definite asset. And if they made all that optional too, it would really rock.

no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no simply no i'm already pissed with fallout new vegas's system and as a modder it really pisses me off

why? steam is 100% compatiable with mods.

I will buy my copy in pyshical form to save having the 10 gig download or whatever....so whats the problem peopel have? that they are being forced to use steam?

Personally, i dont think the steam DRM is really any use for a single player game, the game will get cracked by pirates.....steam is good for games with multiplayer as it stops most people from playing pirated versions online. But TES isnt multiplayer so whats the point? Though at least steam stop average from making a copy of his disc and sharing with friends.

It could be worse, they could be doing what Unisoft did with constant online required, they could have had limited installs.....no they are using a very well supported system in which to protect their game and DLC buying will be much easier through steam, something they have been struggling a bit with.

I realize its compatible but i prefeer just going to C:Programed files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data but anyway I have had a longtime grudge for steam its a pain have to download patches to play the game if I wanted to talk to my friends while playing I would use xfire or Raptr

Voted "no", thought he was asking if I would buy it on steam.

So long as it causes no problems with modification, I see no harm in it.

I really don't see much need though, and while auto-patching can be convenient, it could be a problem with a heavily modded game.

So I am not particularly in favour of it, but I would not make a fuss if it ended up on steam.

I'd probably end up buying both as I've bought countless amounts of Oblivion physical and virtual. But I find steam EXTREMELY useful when Oblivion [censored] bricks if theres some corrupted file, you can simply remove the file, restart steam run a fragmentation check on the game and it re-installs missing files.

Yes, so I don't have to scrounge around for the disk every time I want to play it.
I like how they are going to do it with Fallout: New Vegas.
I don't like Games for Windows Live.
But only as long as it is mod-friendly.

But if not on steam, for gods sake, don't make me carry the disk around everywhere when I want to play it.

I actually just created an account for the sole purpose of voting no.

Steam adds huge amounts game launching time.

• Connecting to steam account
  
• Updating steam
  
• Updating game (automaticly, without any questions >.>)
  
• Preparing to launch game
  
• Launches game

I compared CoD4 to MW2 booting up,
CoD4 booted up in less than a second (pressing enter to fullscreen intro's),
while MW2 (I really hate that game) took somewhere around 20 times more.
And that's not including the updating times. The steam client needs to update extremely often.

More reasons I dislike steam;

• Automaticly downloads stuff without asking (I don't want it to download on my grandmother's 2 Gb download limit internet)
  
• There will be ad-spam upon opening steam
  
• Impossible to play the game without an internet connection
  
• Slow GUI (a second fade-in or fade-out when switching, Xfire does this instantly)
  
• Clogs up other programs like Xfire and fraps

I WILL be BUYING this game, but if it's in steam, really, I'll have to crack it to non-steam. :/

Don't flame me, rather try to disprove my arguments.

there is a reason that steam auto-updates.....that because before auto-updating, many many people just wouldnt bother ever updating thier games and then complain when they encountered a bug that the company had patched.

You can tell it not ot update game automatically, just pick the game and go to it's properties.....however i agree there needs to be some sort of global switch to stop it downloading patches. You can set it to offline mode, then it will never update anything until it is set back to online again.....that mode is a bit hard at times though, mainly because it can switch back to online after logging in again and finding an internet connection.

The add-spam is only on their store page which is the default, if you go into the settings you can set it ot the 'library' aka, your list of games and never see the adds ever.

The 'requires internet once when installing' is just the new DRM....or would you prefer the way Ubisoft went?

Ive never had any problems with steam and fraps. :shrug:

Also, MW2 has extremely slow loading when you start it, my other steam games dont take as long as it.......that game is just slow to load up.

Well I don't have steam, and I haven't really used it before, but is it really fair to compare having a single player game on steam compared to a multiplayer game?

I mean I know there would be the initial BS of having to have an internet connection and having to get steam just to install a single player game, but would there be any need for steam after instillation if we got a physical copy of the game?

yes, the game will still run via steam. aka, you have to start up steam in order to play it.

So long as it doesn't interfere with modding I have no problem with it. If I want to play it offline I can simply set it to launch in Offline Mode so I never have to be connected to the internet (aside from during the initial install, obviously.) So I really see no problem with it. Plus with Steam you can talk to and instant message friends while you play the game, which is nice.

Is that how it works for games that require a steam setup when you buy the actual physical disc?

If so that really kind of svcks. I hope they just have the game on steam for the people who want it, and leave the physical copies of the game out of it.

I like that you can surf the web while playing without alt-tabbing....and if you take oblivion for example, alt-tabbing crashed the ame making it impossible to chat or surf the web while you played.



yes, its pretty much an alternative to having to download the game, it installs and plays the same. The disc on hand is good, means you dont need to re-download it if you want to re-install.

Despite having 40+ games now on my steam account (gotta love those deals of the week), I voted no for a TES:V on Steam.

I use and mess around with mods. And many of the ones I enjoy most, I can't use with Steam/Direct2Drive's version(s) of the .exe file for most games. I know that doesn't apply to everyone, but it does to me.

Despite adamantly hating the Disc Check garbage... I keep the oblivion and morrowind discs in when playing, because they're worth doing so.

I voted "yes", because I think it should be an option. I don't plan on buying the Steam version though...

I think that it should just be annother option to buy the game. I don't think it should be required. I love Steam though, and I will definitely be using it if TESV is released on it.

Those are damn mighty stupid reasons. Sometimes I want to play a specific version of the game. Or have the same game/software installed multiple times in specific versions of them, for example when there is a save game incompatibility between some patches, and I want to continue my old game too (happened with HoI 2 once) or if the newest version has a different bug (LIP file generation in TESCS, anyone?).

Thankfully, my online distribution of choice - GamersGate - lets me do that. No Steam for me, thanks.

Thank you fory our reply.

I do not favour Ubisoft's way obviously, I just say that steam is just a sad excuse for a DRM..
I mean, aren't there any DRM's that don't require internet?

Let me clarify MW2's loading time; 95% of the time it was waiting for a signal from one of steam's servers, the other 5% is the actual loading of the game,
which was for me very much the same as CoD4, since I have a good processor.

But alright, since it's been confirmed..
*Equips eye patch*
I'll still buy the game to support Bethesda, since they're the most awesome developpers I know.
Bethesda really cares about their hard core, rather than becoming commercial.
_{(Pretty much like Infinity Ward before MW2.. God I hate that game. >.<)}

EDIT:
what??? Are there going to be multiple versions?!
I think even if you buy the CD in a store, you'll still have to run it from steam. Pretty hard install and high potential to fail if you didn't download it from steam itself..