TESV should include an option for 3D view like the technolog

Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:47 am

I just don't see what it truly adds. Was Avatar any better or worse of a movie because it did or did not have the illusion of three dimensional movement? I just can't compare it to other graphics advancements, like bloom, HDR, depth-of-field, AA, etc. Those were and are all things that changed how I think of visuals. Whereas 3D, to me, is just sewing on faux impressionism onto things.

If its optionality is quick and easy to implement, then I've got no real gripe. I just don't understand the drive or hype for it.


I'd agree, 3D may be one of those things a game-geek would chat about to their friends about how 'cool' it is, but in the end it is just like the Wii, overhyped and rather void when it is compared with how people imagine it.

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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:09 am

I'd agree, 3D may be one of those things a game-geek would chat about to their friends about how 'cool' it is, but in the end it is just like the Wii, overhyped and rather void when it is compared with how people imagine it.

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Actually i thought the Wii really rocked. It really moved the whole gaming concept forward.
I was certainly caught offguard by its popularity, i just never thought that it would be a major
player in the Seventh Generation Console Wars.

Comparison of amount of systems sold worldwide (7th Generation Consoles)
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles
Nintendo Wii - 67.45 million
Microsoft Xbox 360 - 39 million
Sony PlayStation 3 - 33.5 million

I mean come on, its already 2010, well into the 21st Century. why are we still using gamepads to passively play games? Thats what i did in the 80s with the NES lol.

Give me virtual reality, give me motion sensors, let me have a taste of how TRON feels like lol.
Systems like the Wii + 3D are the right steps forward to shape the future concept of gaming.

just my 2 cents.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:19 am

I wonder what colours the lenss are? Maybe I could make my own with some celofane.

Speaking of which, I hate "betreyer of humanity"s avatar. Its been agrivating me for days.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:54 pm

a simple plugin for compatibility.

Simple? :slap:
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:35 am

It *is* simple. It actually works already with most games because of the common thing called "depth buffer". But in some games they don't have right depth buffer for game ui, and maybe particles. And MGE is not compatible because we play with depth buffer a lot to add distant land. Actually, Morrowind alone works, and with MGE this time only distant land works. But I might be wrong, we matched depth buffer finally so that might have changed. Developers part is just don't forget to set correct depth info on your elements(like ui, sky). (off course it would be nice adding some tweaks to the UI, like animated 3D hovering effects, and out of screen effects!!!! :))

http://developer.nvidia.com/object/nvision08-stereo.html

3D is in the nature of computer graphics and gaming. New shutter glasses fixed graphic quality problem, it is coming... No, it is already arrived.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/01/acers-gd235hz-23-6-inch-3d-display-is-ready-for-your-glasses-eq/
actually I wanted to post this one:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/14/acer-3d-laptop-review-first-look/
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:40 am

It *is* simple. It actually works already with most games because of the common thing called "depth buffer". But in some games they don't have right depth buffer for game ui, and maybe particles. And MGE is not compatible because we play with depth buffer a lot to add distant land. Actually, Morrowind alone works, and with MGE this time only distant land works. But I might be wrong, we matched depth buffer finally so that might have changed. Developers part is just don't forget to set correct depth info on your elements(like ui, sky). (off course it would be nice adding some tweaks to the UI, like animated 3D hovering effects, and out of screen effects!!!! :))

http://developer.nvidia.com/object/nvision08-stereo.html

3D is in the nature of computer graphics and gaming. New shutter glasses fixed graphic quality problem, it is coming... No, it is already arrived.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/01/acers-gd235hz-23-6-inch-3d-display-is-ready-for-your-glasses-eq/
actually I wanted to post this one:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/14/acer-3d-laptop-review-first-look/


Nice looking 3D display. 23.6-inch, 16:9 display for USD$399 seems like a pretty good price.
Now, a game done right with 3D would be totally smashing. Unlikely to be TESV, but probably TESVI.

Edit: nice laptop also. As long as they keep the prices reasonable and have good
movies or games showcasing the best of the technology, i think its gonna be a hit.
(Can't wait to watch Clash of the Titans in 3D btw, i hope thats gonna be as good as Avatar lol)
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:07 pm

Nice looking 3D display. 23.6-inch, 16:9 display for USD$399 seems like a pretty good price.
Now, a game done right with 3D would be totally smashing. Unlikely to be TESV, but probably TESVI.

Edit: nice laptop also. As long as they keep the prices reasonable and have good
movies or games showcasing the best of the technology, i think its gonna be a hit.
(Can't wait to watch Clash of the Titans in 3D btw, i hope thats gonna be as good as Avatar lol)

I want big blockbusters to return. Spielberg is doing small futuristic crime flicks and family centric alien invasion movies. And nobody can get Paul Verhoven back after hollow man. James was absent for so long and Avatar was still not the big action packed movie I was waiting. (Avatar was outstanding though!) Die Hard 4 was not as I want it to be(3). Zemeckis is doing 3D animations. Ridley is doing history movies. Dramas, twists.. Enough already.

Now good news,
Ridley Scott is back, making an Alien movie. (prequel?) Awesome!
Darren Aronofsky is making a Robocop movie. What!? :drool:
James wants to do a movie with cyborgs in future, an anime based movie with avatar tech!
Spielberg can come back with big Sci-fi project. (Please, I saw interstellar project, I'm excited.)
Neil Blomkamp(District 9) can finally get the budgets to make a big blockbuster movie.(He has to watch Avatar a lot to correct that camera though.)
Zemeckis can quit and return to live action.(I mean after Avatar like live action...)

All(quite possibly) in glorious 3D. :D

And I suspect CoT to be the first of the new wave. (Sam Worthington, where were you before?(making hacky crocodile movies))

PS. Foundation is coming! Hobbit too. :) :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
PPS. And future. Dark Tower. After that I can stop watching movies.(not exactly)

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For human perception we need more visual information. And 3D is for boosting that. Being actually there vs. looking to a 2D screen, the difference is immersion.

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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:15 pm

I'd agree, 3D may be one of those things a game-geek would chat about to their friends about how 'cool' it is, but in the end it is just like the Wii, overhyped and rather void when it is compared with how people imagine it.

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On the contrary, a game nerd would chat about HDR and the like.

Something as in your face as a new way to perceive the game with depth field can be embraced by any one person with two eyes :P
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:02 pm

3-D...pfft.

Call me when Holographic Imagers hit the market.


actually Gc there is a sort of screen made out of exceedinly thin fog(invisable) that would cost you Gazillions to buy and you have to help them work on it but im not joking this thing is amazing,i saw it on some TV show the future of gaming and there was a expansive thing on it to tell the truth
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:09 pm

I'm not sure 3D is the way forward haha.


I didn't like Avatar in 3D. I don't wanna wear any sort of accessory while I play, and I'm sure it'd give me a headache after a while. It doesn't make me feel "like I'm there" or anything...I just don't see the point.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:53 pm

I don't really care either way. If it's 3D, great. Fine. Whatever. If not, then great. Fine. Whatever.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:53 am

I'm getting pretty sick of 3-D. Does anyone else find it just outright tacky?
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:27 am

What we need are holograms and holodecks (star treck) and VR.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:56 pm

3D is an option. Don't dismiss an entire technology based on minor problems. Looking at Avatar, a director spends his time on something to bring 3D to mass audiences in a presentable way. With more attention, like in every technology, advances will be made. Glasses won't stay much longer...

What we need are holograms and holodecks (star treck) and VR.

It is on the way too. From the guy who brought you HDR.

http://gl.ict.usc.edu/Research/3DDisplay/

It is so cool! :D
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:17 am

I'm getting pretty sick of 3-D. Does anyone else find it just outright tacky?


I recently had a chance to try out MLB 10 on PS3 using 3D glasses...I played for about 20 minutes and I thought it was pretty slick. As an early adopter of a lot of new tech (my iPad is showing up on Saturday), I like trying out new stuff and I look forward to seeing what's done with 3D.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:30 pm

I recently had a chance to try out MLB 10 on PS3 using 3D glasses...I played for about 20 minutes and I thought it was pretty slick. As an early adopter of a lot of new tech (my iPad is showing up on Saturday), I like trying out new stuff and I look forward to seeing what's done with 3D.

There are 3D games? I didn't know 3D games already existed.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:12 pm

Movies in 3D only look that good because all the CGI is pre-rendered. That's why FMV sequences in games are/were always better quality than in-game models, and why movies' CGI has always been many steps ahead/advanced/realistic than in games.

Games have not reached that point in the technology. We still get bloom-bleached billboard trees and plastic-faced people and reflective wood.

If you add 3D, it'll just be 3D crap instead of 2D crap, except more expensive and I have to wear stupid glasses.

3D has never really impressed me. I haven't seen anything recently, but I do remember my experiences with those dumb red and blue glasses. It's like those optical illusions with the old lady and the duck - sometimes I can see the 3D, other times I only see the 2D. And the color is all mucked up because of the red and blue lens colors. Either way, the 3D isn't seamless, there was quite a bit of 'popping'. :shrug: I dunno.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:05 pm

TESV should NOT include an option for 3D view like the technology used in Avatar - The Movie 3D version


I was just reading the article in Game Informer about 3D games, I hate the idea.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:23 pm

If they can manage 3d without the stupid glasses then I'm fine with it.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:29 pm

If we're talking about doing it the Avatar-way i.e. RealD, wouldn't it require people to buy a new TV/monitor for it?
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:58 pm

No, i've had enough of this whole 3D fad, can't wait for it to pass.....
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:33 pm

No, i've had enough of this whole 3D fad, can't wait for it to pass.....

That.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:08 pm

No, i've had enough of this whole 3D fad, can't wait for it to pass.....



Same here, 3d is some pretty old tech, I think the only reason they are making a few 3d games is so they can milk the mindless drones for their money. Also it would eventually lead to them amking some type of special 3D glasses that only work for one console that are 50 dollars a pop, I know it would lead to that.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:46 pm

[censored] 3d it makes me dizzy, gives me sore eyes and a headache and isn't even that breathtaking. Plus the size of the file would probably be huge leaving even less room for content.
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Post » Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:44 am

No, i've had enough of this whole 3D fad, can't wait for it to pass.....

I agree.
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