TESV: Why couldn't it have been Elsweyr?

Post » Fri May 04, 2012 11:38 am

Hopefully VI is. I long to roam the beaches, deserts and learn more about the Khajiit culture and lore!
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Eibe Novy
 
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:04 pm

the size of a province dosn't mater when it comes to being put in a game.because to me the smaller the better and this is why. the could take a province as small as elsweyr and make it as big as skyrim is in game if not biger and thats more detail that they could do with it to. and also they might imo be able to make the cities actually feel like real cities.

so the smaller they are the better the game world can turn out to be

Morrowind was set in 1 of 6 districts that made up the province. If a sixth of a province was enough for a game then a small province should be plenty.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:44 pm

Well that's great for you, because Skyrim gave you exactly what you wanted. For the next game, Bethesda should think outside the box, and Elsweyr is definitely outside the box.

Indeed Skyrim did give me what I wanted and I am glad they went with Skyrim for TES 5
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:00 am

Skyrim Nords make me sick. I'm sick of em already.
i felt the same way about dunmer in morrowind but then i realized i was in there province then i didnt mind them so much you should try this. anyways on topic alot of people before announcement where hoping it would be skyrim i myself was hoping for blackmarsh until i realised the current console gen wouldnt do it justice. and as you can see the fans wanted a game set in skyrim and thats what we got...still didnt get spears tho.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:00 am

I think beast races provinces would be amazing to explore but it requires some crazy devs not the devs who like the comfort zone of the best selling LOTResque.
well nobody said the human provinces would or even could be interesting they certainly wont be very alien thankfully the only human province that hasnt been explored is hammerfell and that may be a dlc expansion for skyrim.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:06 am

Personally I think the next game will be Elsweyr AND valenwood. Think it will finish off Tameriel then move somewhere else previously unknown. Maybe that game will play host to newcomers landing on the southern shores.

Enough with this freaking Elsweyr and Valenwood Idea >:|
Every TES game deserves its very own province, none of them are half of value as the others.
If that happened, there would basically be half as much content and focus in the World of Elsweyr and Valenwood instead of it being a full fledged game.
Why does anyone want this?!
Think before you wish D:

OT : I would be happy if it was Elsweyr but It can wait till the next one (hopefully o.o)
We need at least one Beast Race land by now, if it's another Human or Elf Province, i'd get a bit upset :|
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:41 am

i would like to see Hammerfall but where ever they decide to do it i will be there love the game

We already have Hammerfell. Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall. Which also has High Rock.

Also, Elder Scrolls I: Arena takes place in all of them though the graphics are very very bad.

So... Let's Discount Arena. We've been in: High Rock, Hammerfell, Morrowind, Cyrodiil, and Skyrim so far. This leaves us Black Marsh, Elswyr, Valenwood, and Altmer's Homeland (Can't remember name).

Out of those, I think Black Marsh or Altmer's Homeland will be the next TES game.

Why?
Well.. For Altmer's Homeland.. Something about the Thalmor would easily be an TES game, right? Or that could be an expansion to Skyrim.

As for Black Marsh... A lot of lore about Black Marsh been popping up lately. Maybe they are getting us to learn more about Black Marsh before letting us run around in it?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:08 am

Oh and Skyrim was chosen for TESV because that is where the whole Dragon-War was at long time ago and Dragons are highly related to Nordic Religion than other Religions. Also, Dragons been the #1 thing (Or close to being #1) people wanted to see in an TES since Daggerfall. Mainly because we saw Dragonlings in Daggerfall and wondered what a full-Dragon would be like in the TES games.

So.. If TESV gonna be about Dragons then what would be the best province to do it in? Skyrim.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:14 am

Elsweyr would have been a bit more interesting i will admit.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:25 am

We already have Hammerfell. Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall. Which also has High Rock.

Also, Elder Scrolls I: Arena takes place in all of them though the graphics are very very bad.

So... Let's Discount Arena. We've been in: High Rock, Hammerfell, Morrowind, Cyrodiil, and Skyrim so far. This leaves us Black Marsh, Elswyr, Valenwood, and Altmer's Homeland (Can't remember name).

Out of those, I think Black Marsh or Altmer's Homeland will be the next TES game.

Why?
Well.. For Altmer's Homeland.. Something about the Thalmor would easily be an TES game, right? Or that could be an expansion to Skyrim.

As for Black Marsh... A lot of lore about Black Marsh been popping up lately. Maybe they are getting us to learn more about Black Marsh before letting us run around in it?
First, the Altmer homeland is Summerset Isles just letting you know so you can remember.
Second, I believe I have read that with the Thalmor in power no other race is allowed in Summerset Isles currently, so unless Bethesda changes that I doubt we will go there.
Finally, I would like to go to Elsewyr because of its geography, it is diverse and is a nice change from the boring snow and tundra of Skyrim. Also, I wouldn't mind going "back" to High Rock because in Daggerfall it was only a small portion of High Rock. The same goes for Hammerfell we only went to a small portion of the land so we could go back there and explore everywhere, except I think no one wants to see another human province so Hammerfell will probably not be an option.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:54 pm

First, the Altmer homeland is Summerset Isles just letting you know so you can remember. Second, I believe I have read that with the Thalmor in power no other race is allowed in Summerset Isles currently, so unless Bethesda changes that I doubt we will go there. Finally, I would like to go to Elsewyr because of its geography, it is diverse and is a nice change from the boring snow and tundra of Skyrim. Also, I wouldn't mind going "back" to High Rock because in Daggerfall it was only a small portion of High Rock. The same goes for Hammerfell we only went to a small portion of the land so we could go back there and explore everywhere, except I think no one wants to see another human province so Hammerfell will probably not be an option.


Skyrim is not boring
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:43 pm

Second, I believe I have read that with the Thalmor in power no other race is allowed in Summerset Isles currently, so unless Bethesda changes that I doubt we will go there.
Jail. We will most likely start in a jail within Summerset Isles and the mainquest is about breaking out of jail, helping out other people in the area, and killing the Thalmor off. That is my idea of doing a Summerset Isles Game.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:20 pm

Skyrim is not boring
I did not say Skyrim was boring, I said the snow and tundra of Skyrim are boring, which is the geography of it, not the actual game itself.

To Jusey1: But if no other race is allowed in Summerset Isles how would your character have gotten there? Even if they did somehow get into Summerset Isles once they escaped wouldn't the Thalmor try to kill you instantly?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:17 am

I did not say Skyrim was boring, I said the snow and tundra of Skyrim are boring, which is the geography of it, not the actual game itself.

I think he was talking about Skyrim, the land and not the game. Seriously.. Bethesda need to change the name of Skyrim so people doesn't get Skyrim and Skyrim mixed up.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:54 am




Skyrim is not boring
It was more of a statement about the setting. The setting of Skyrim is pretty standard for a fantasy game, and is a bit cliche.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:58 am

This bothers me. Why the f*** not? Skyrim is my first TES game, and I fell in love with the Khajiit. They're one of my favorite races--right next to Argonians. Although I wish their roots were more east-Asian inspired, rather than from the middle east. That's how I always saw them anyways.
There is another cat race in Akavir that is Asian inspired, the Ka Po' Tun.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:52 pm

I did not say Skyrim was boring, I said the snow and tundra of Skyrim are boring, which is the geography of it, not the actual game itself.

To Jusey1: But if no other race is allowed in Summerset Isles how would your character have gotten there? Even if they did somehow get into Summerset Isles once they escaped wouldn't the Thalmor try to kill you instantly?


I was referring to the geography as well.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:55 am

It was more of a statement about the setting. The setting of Skyrim is pretty standard for a fantasy game, and is a bit cliche.

Which is why I like it
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:38 am



Which is why I like it
And a lot of people would agree with you. However, some fans find the same run of the mill Tolkien setting, to be boring and done to death.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:19 am

i would rather play black marsh more than anything...but this is a painful truth. swarms of blood flies, floods and even the very nature of a marsh would be next to impossible for bethesda to do atm (did you know cyrodill is actually, for the most part, a large forrest and not the endless plains oblivion made you play in?? i'd hate to see what blackmarsh turns into)

Actually, only half of Cyrodiil was described as tropical rain forest, in the Nibenay Basin around the Imperial City. The Colovian Highlands were listed as low hills and temperate forests, pretty much like what we got for nearly the entire province aside from the Jerall Mountains. In game, there was little difference between them (I won't claim "NO difference", but not MUCH of a difference), and you couldn't even buy a Colovian Fur Helm in Colovia, although they practically fell from the skies in Morrowind (you'd understand the reference if you played MW). There was no evidence in the game of the competitive hostility between the two regions, and not even a mention of them even being seperate regions. Bizarrely, there may have been hardly any more lore about Cyrodiil in Cyrodiil than there was in Morrowind.

Incidentally, the imperial Island was supposed to be nearly 100 miles long, most of it city, which would have made for a complete (and more believable) game without ever venturing off the island into the rest fo the province, as was done with the island of Vvardenfell in Morrowind province. Daggerfall attempted to represent the entire province in a realistic scale, which was impossible to do with any sort of detail. Morrowind limited the game to a sizable quarantined island in the midst of the province, making the size "scaled down, but somewhat believable". Oblivion attempted to fit the entire even larger province of Cyrodiil into a space only marginally larger than what it used for the island of Vvardenfell, making it feel absurd to cross nearly a thousand mile wide province in a few minutes of playing time, and seeing the White Gold Tower clearly from cities supposedly a few hundred miles distant. The in-game claim was that you could see the Tower from anywhere in the vast city, NOT the entire province. Skyrim stuck with the "cram the whole province into a shoebox" approach, leaving us with a few villages scattered across barely a county-sized patch of mountainous land and forests pretending to be an entire country in its own right.

Black Marsh itself may be somewhat of a technical challenge, but the animations for the various Kajiit sub-species (fully erect, digitagrade, and quadruped forms, plus a partially arboreal type) would probably be far more work. A significant part of Elsweyr is jungle, beside the large open deserts, so there's more terrain diversity than most Nords would comprehend (the ONLY race I haven't bothered to play at some point in the series).

I'm hoping for either Black Marsh or Elsweyr, but we're more likely to get Hammerfell or High Rock; another generic "man" province. Bethesda seems to be too afraid to offend someone by trying anything outside the box, thereby annoying and offending all of those who have been anxiously waiting in vain for anything worth waiting for. They're too busy trying to be the Wal-Mart of gaming, and catering more and more to a Wal-Mart customer base.

Akaryu claims that Skyrim is what the fans wanted, but previous polls here repeatedly showed Black Marsh as #1, and Skyrim and Elsweyr competing closely for #2, but we got Skyrim. AFTER it was announced, the bandwagon jumpers flocked to the Skyrim theme in droves, but now that it's over, Black Marsh is once again at the top of the polls, followed by Elsweyr.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:25 am

Actually, only half of Cyrodiil was described as tropical rain forest, in the Nibenay Basin around the Imperial City. The Colovian Highlands were listed as low hills and temperate forests, pretty much like what we got for nearly the entire province aside from the Jerall Mountains. In game, there was little difference between them (I won't claim "NO difference", but not MUCH of a difference), and you couldn't even buy a Colovian Fur Helm in Colovia, although they practically fell from the skies in Morrowind (you'd understand the reference if you played MW). There was no evidence in the game of the competitive hostility between the two regions, and not even a mention of them even being seperate regions. Bizarrely, there may have been hardly any more lore about Cyrodiil in Cyrodiil than there was in Morrowind.

Incidentally, the imperial Island was supposed to be nearly 100 miles long, most of it city, which would have made for a complete (and more believable) game without ever venturing off the island into the rest fo the province, as was done with the island of Vvardenfell in Morrowind province. Daggerfall attempted to represent the entire province in a realistic scale, which was impossible to do with any sort of detail. Morrowind limited the game to a sizable quarantined island in the midst of the province, making the size "scaled down, but somewhat believable". Oblivion attempted to fit the entire even larger province of Cyrodiil into a space only marginally larger than what it used for the island of Vvardenfell, making it feel absurd to cross nearly a thousand mile wide province in a few minutes of playing time, and seeing the White Gold Tower clearly from cities supposedly a few hundred miles distant. The in-game claim was that you could see the Tower from anywhere in the vast city, NOT the entire province. Skyrim stuck with the "cram the whole province into a shoebox" approach, leaving us with a few villages scattered across barely a county-sized patch of mountainous land and forests pretending to be an entire country in its own right.

Black Marsh itself may be somewhat of a technical challenge, but the animations for the various Kajiit sub-species (fully erect, digitagrade, and quadruped forms, plus a partially arboreal type) would probably be far more work. A significant part of Elsweyr is jungle, beside the large open deserts, so there's more terrain diversity than most Nords would comprehend (the ONLY race I haven't bothered to play at some point in the series).

I'm hoping for either Black Marsh or Elsweyr, but we're more likely to get Hammerfell or High Rock; another generic "man" province. Bethesda seems to be too afraid to offend someone by trying anything outside the box, thereby annoying and offending all of those who have been anxiously waiting in vain for anything worth waiting for. They're too busy trying to be the Wal-Mart of gaming, and catering more and more to a Wal-Mart customer base.

Akaryu claims that Skyrim is what the fans wanted, but previous polls here repeatedly showed Black Marsh as #1, and Skyrim and Elsweyr competing closely for #2, but we got Skyrim. AFTER it was announced, the bandwagon jumpers flocked to the Skyrim theme in droves, but now that it's over, Black Marsh is once again at the top of the polls, followed by Elsweyr.
Thanks for the info, I had no idea the island the Imperial City was on was really that big because in Oblivion the whole island was the Imperial City. I hope Bethesda takes us to Elsweyr mainly because it seems to be the most diverse as far as geography goes, and I am not a fan of Black Marsh. I look at it like this as cool as the Argonians are I think Black Marsh will not be interesting to me because I think of the marshy area in Cyrodiil and that is how I imagine Black Marsh is and I hated that area. Therefore, my vote goes to Elsweyr because Khajiits got no attention in Skyrim even less so than Argonians.
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