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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 9:08 am

Varliance - nu-power from obscenity. The distillation of heaven’s essence through the filter of hell’s void-churning.

Our second degree cousins of the third type harnessed this power from their favorite and only true divinity: the night sky, which they called Niraearubis in their strange religion of violation, but I contend that they did not know the whole of it, for indeed, they focused only on the smallest and weakest of the stars, wholly ignoring the greatest of them all. Magnus.

Magnus. Father of light. Father of magic. His supposed half-death and the associated trans-mundane tether to the eternal has been discussed more than enough, but many aspects of his story are more obscured. One such aspect? What happens to all of his light?

It is a well known fact that the light of day originates in Aetherius, and thus should have all the classic Aetherial virtues: goodness, glory, love of the Aldmer, and eternality. It is also well known that light shines forth continually during the day. And yet, things do not grow continually brighter during the day, nor does the world remain filled with eternal light after sundown. Somehow, something appears to be stealing light from us.

Some, such as Lord Seer Wanyail, propose that this is a manifestation of Lorkhan’s taint, and that through their shared Padomic blood, Nirn and certain daedra share a special relationship in which these daedra, the “light-thieves” of childhood nightmares, prevent Nirn from being destroyed by the cleansing light of Aetherius, and in return fat themselves on the essence of forever. This is, of course ridiculous.

More likely, when light enters the ultra-perhaps of the mundane sphere, it become myriad in more ways than previously known. It is a major and unshakable tennent of our knowledge that crystals can scatter the pure white light of day into a multitude of colors (and this is then conventionally turned into a great many metaphors). It is also accepted that living things can absorb some of this light and transform it into the magicka of our spells, but even in the absence of life, places grow darker without light. What then is become of all the spare light?

Magnustism. It must be being stored somewhere, in some form, that we can unlock. As Varliance was stored in the varla stones - crystalized blood of the magna-ge - Magnustism must be stored in the remnants of Magnus upon Nirn. But what of Magnus remains on Nirn? Three things.

First, and most critically, there is the design. Magnus contributed the most to the mundane plan. Unfortunately, as is well known, the strongest barriers in all of the Mundus are those around the design of the thing. It would be foolish to advise what has already been attempted and repeatedly failed, so I will move on.

Second, there is the legendary Staff of Magnus. Unfortunately, as is well known, the staff has an unfortunate elusive capacity hardwired into the design. It will only be exploitable once the mundus has already fallen.

Third and finally, we have the only likely useful source of Magnustism - The Eye of Magnus. Reports from our third degree cousins of the second type described it as a genuine part of Magnus hastily left behind after he fled to Aetherius. It should be attuned to his spectra, and, more importantly, weakly warded. If we can find it and unlock it, we should have access to a store of varliance greater than any other. A store that has been building up for millennia, untapped since the second age*, fueled by the greatest of the fully-living spirits. It alone might be able to fuel the spells that would win us the war.

Sincerely yours,
Scholar 3rd class, second division, Untaro.



*By which he means that period of time called the merethic era by mannish calendars.


I'm also thinking that, while these sort of things (by which I mean discussion of the lore through creation) do have their place in this forum, the complaints about it getting out of hand are valid, so maybe we can try to keep stuff like this mostly constrained to one thread?
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I'm also thinking that, while these sort of things (by which I mean discussion of the lore through creation) do have their place in this forum, the complaints about it getting out of hand are valid, so maybe we can try to keep stuff like this mostly constrained to one thread?
I support this motion.

Also, wouldn't it be call if we had something like http://books.google.com/books/about/Words_and_arms.html?id=rUEFAAAAMAAJ, only with lore terms?
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 7:28 am

Father of light. Father of magic.

I know what voice to read that in!

I'm also thinking that, while these sort of things (by which I mean discussion of the lore through creation) do have their place in this forum, the complaints about it getting out of hand are valid, so maybe we can try to keep stuff like this mostly constrained to one thread?

I see no point in this. [censored]es gonna [censored].
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 7:56 am

Assuming that was a term for a female dog that got censored... I really don't think that's an accurate description of users such as PeteAdams, who recently expressed that all of this fan-work was discouraging him from reading the forums. I think that centralizing the smaller fan-works really would create an improved experience for many users here.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 11:20 pm

It's not an accurate description of anyone; it was used facetiously.

I don't think the problem is that we have people making threads for their work; it's that people post their work in threads created for discussion in the scholarly vein instead of the artistic.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 6:05 am

Assuming that was a term for a female dog that got censored... I really don't think that's an accurate description of users such as PeteAdams, who recently expressed that all of this fan-work was discouraging him from reading the forums. I think that centralizing the smaller fan-works really would create an improved experience for many users here.

I have no problem reading in-character discussion of lore, and I feel like such discussions do indeed have a place here in the lore section of the forum. I only have issue with the in-character dialogue/manuscripts taking creative license and throwing in facts or lore tidbits that are otherwise absent from "official" lore.

And that can easily be solved by some sort of footnote or asterisk that points out, "hey, this is my own made up material." Threads or posts that wind up being composed of mostly fan-created material should probably be posted in fan-fiction.

Call it a pet peeve, I guess. When fan-created statements about lore are interwoven with established lore, it makes it very hard to become a http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1112211-how-to-become-a-lore-buff/, :tongue:

I remember some stuff Lady Nerevar wrote about the Ancestor Moths some time ago, and I really liked it! So please try not feel like I'm out to flame people or I've got a chip on my shoulder, lol.

Sorry for the off-topic post in the thread, just saw my username pop up and I felt obliged to chime in with my 2c.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 12:13 am

Freelance Varliance Dr. M.W. Undaro,

I have read your treatise on the nature of varliance and magnustism, and I 'd like to raise two questions to you for further discussion (and I'm leaving this as an open memosporatic-sleevethread for members of the College of Whispers, as they are probably better versed in this topic than I; my vocation is the practical applications of magic, as opposed to trying to unwind the secrets of the Supermundus Inferniiaetherusque).

1) I was under the impression (the Synod refused my inquires into the item in question) the Staff of Magnus, while possessing control over the Eye, was simply named after our Arch-Mage Magnus, instead of the Mundical-Design God. Are you implying that they are actually one in the same somehow (through either mantling or incarnation; on a very related note, Magnusarine is a very hard-to-pronounce-in-mannish-tongues word).

2) Your essay does not address the other theories that abound about the Eye of Magnus. I personally subscribe to it be a microcosmical aurbic model. Of course, this is in concordance with your theory that the Eye is a subgradient/piece of Magnus himself and thus attuned to his spectra (as you addressed, because Magnus is creation itself, these theories can have cross-pollination of ideas and concepts). My knowledge on Magne-Ge spectra is rather...sparse (not from a lack of reading, but the most substantial research has been from a M. Bride-of-Kirk, Imperial Mannanaut, Legion rank: Voidal Speculores Duodecim Legion, PsuedoConjurer of the Synod, etc., etc.; and let's be frank, while he's very well-read, his writings are rather...difficult to understand, even for our superior merrish brains). However, it would strengthen your essay to write about the other theories.

Aside from that, I find it your theory interesting. I'm also glad that you have invented a word for antivarliance, because magi should have done more research into these subjects Eras ago!

Your esteemed colleague and friend,

Velms-Telvanni Alkeno Jabiyn-Hlaalu; Former Mouth of Former Great House Telvanni, Grandcounselman Therana; Apprentice of the Former Mages' Guild; Layman of the Tribunal Temple, cult of Grand-Saint-Tribune Sotha Sil; Communer of illicit daedra; current Grand-Thaumaturge of Mundane Magical Practice of Great House Velms, etc. etc.

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PS: If you think a courier would have trouble finding me (Morrowind is even harder to traverse in these post-Red Year days, especially without transoblivional/trans-14th dimensional travel), feel free to respond via memospore. I would look in the dreamsleeve to ingest it, but I'm not sending this current letter right now through those channels, as internal dreamsleeve research isn't the best for my coding of mushroom growing programs (Telvanni OS's have been lost since the Red Year, and House Velms wants me as a former member to rewrite the mushroom tower growing algorithms and equations.),
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 5:26 pm

Grand Thaumaturge Velms-Telvanni Alkeno Jabiyn-Hlaalu, it is good to see that something has finally come of the scholarly demesne edict of 179 new-Dominion.

1st, it is generally believed by my brothers that, given the age of the staff, the phrase "arch-mage" used in the most ancient descriptions cannot refer to the formal rank given to the regional heads of the old Mages' Guild, but instead means more literally "the foremost mage." Given that our shared ancestor Magnus is the one through whom the majority of our plane(t)s magic flows, it seems sensible that the ancients would have bestowed this title upon him. It certainly seems peculiar to believe that such a powerful artifact, comparable to the bow of Auri-El, would be the make of a simple mortal mage.

2nd, to be perfectly honest, I am just as mystified as any when it comes to the true nature and purpose of magnus's eye. Some of my collaborators claim it is a device used by Magnus to monitor his creation. Others say it is a "window to the soul" of he who designed the trap. There are also stranger theories yet, such as the microcosmic theory to which you subscribe, the macrocosmic theory (according to which the entirety of the Mundus is actually inside the eye), and the shared hallucination theory (according to which the true eye, or rather, eyes of Magnus are those of the mer who perceive the giant blue floating runed sphere). Regardless of the true nature of the eye of Magnus, the most important part is that it is of Magnus, which seems difficult to dispute, given the ancient accounts with which we're both familiar.

The topic of Magna-Getical Spectral attunement deserves further elaboration at a latter date. Unfortunately, other matters call to my attention.


Sincerely yours,
Scholar 3rd class, second division, Untaro.



@Pete, I was just using you as an example. A fair number of people have raised similar points.
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 9:28 pm

Half the fun and all the fury of scholastics comes from separating wheat from chaff. Kiddies aren't gonna learn the lore less they learn that lesson first.

Still, I use the [/speculation] tag to stop Girl Hortator from glassing me in my sleep. No need for Forum-Scribbler-Dachau.
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I'm also thinking that, while these sort of things (by which I mean discussion of the lore through creation) do have their place in this forum, the complaints about it getting out of hand are valid, so maybe we can try to keep stuff like this mostly constrained to one thread?
I feel that In-Character Apocrypha has it's place so long as the thread sticks to one relevant topic. Like the slightly-older RP that discussed the nature of Jyggalag to the Aurbis itself and the PGE4.

Other stuff that's just for fun I think should go in the fanfiction forum...but that's just me.

It'd be fun to see how many people there go "WTF" to our varliated memotransmissions.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 12:03 am

'Eh. It was a concept.
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DRMSLV>// 1023.583 > 823445

choose folder to open

>Dibellan scry-records
>Connection to Glyphdisc computation device
>Direct hologlyphic line to Varlavavarda/Artful Mantis program logs
>Telvanni OS reconstruction project
>Memospore transmission_inscription

DRMSLV>// User: ALKENO_boss8055__Run: Folder Protocol 5
Send: Scholar 3rd class, second division, Untaro.
From: VELMS_TELVANNI ALKENO
Re: VARLIANCE


Hope that this actually goes through...anyways...While I was coding, a brilliant idea struck me. Varliance, as we both know, is the source of all life energy within the Mundus, yes? A colleague of mine from Alinor told me of an incident at the College of Winterhold (where the Eye was housed), where a Thalmor agent decided to attempt to use the Eye to unmake the world (as anyone older than 100 and a half a lick of sense should know by now). The Magnustism of the Eye could devour all the Varliance of the Mundus? Is that what this (somewhat weak and mannish Thalmor agent) have attempted before being stopped by the current Arch-Mage? I would like to hear your thoughts on this matter, dear Untaro.

Ack! OH MEPHALA NO DON'T BEND THE TOWER THAT WAY IN THE VIRTUAL UNDEAD SPACE APPRENTICE! THE CONSEQUENCES COULD BE CATASTROPHIC! IND[[TRANSMISSION CUT SHORT ERROR 505]]
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 5:09 pm

Half the fun and all the fury of scholastics comes from separating wheat from chaff. Kiddies aren't gonna learn the lore less they learn that lesson first.

Still, I use the [/speculation] tag to stop Girl Hortator from glassing me in my sleep. No need for Forum-Scribbler-Dachau.

Good point.

Also: The ending of the words is GIRLTATOR.

True story.

It'd be fun to see how many people there go "WTF" to our varliated memotransmissions.

You don't actually see it... they maintain a cool silence.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 3:35 am

OOC: because I'm too lazy to write an obtuse role play about it, I feel that we should also discuss the Ayleids in general.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 12:43 am

choose folder to open
>Dibellan scry-records


porm stash?
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 6:09 pm

Yup

I have 80 vehkbythes of Dibellian arts.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 8:49 am

TranceAt(U:Memories\Users\HighThalmorOnly\Hidden\DeepEmbed\Memospores\Failures\Ancano.msp)

Reviewed occurrence using emergency decryption key. Most disturbing. I may have been right, and the High Thalmor obviously did me a great honor of a lowly scholar such as myself, but the fool Justicar they sent seems to have skin of pyrite. To let such an opportunity slip from our fingers! Unacceptable.

But what little he did achieve has significant implications for my work. Most importantly, it appears that the outer structure of the Eye serves as some sort of containment mechanism for the Magnustism within - and the staff has among it's growing list of functions the ability to reinforce this containment field! Moreover, it seems that we may be able to look to the historical record for evidence of the potential uses of this artifact.

This all casts a new light on the western reaches of the Second Age High Kingdom, and makes me wonder if perhaps there was more to the relationship between the Falmer and Ayleidoon than was previously believed. Certainly, they appear to have developed similar ayleidoon* of spectra-alignment, but in pursuit of diametrically opposed hours. A sign of deeper conflict?

*by which he means what we might call arcana (hidden art).
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Post » Wed May 30, 2012 8:22 pm

kor.[MAG].aldsum/[ARCH].me

How the [NUMINIT] does this thing work? Can you see me?
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kor.[MAG].aldsum/[ARCH].me

How the [NUMINIT] does this thing work? Can you see me?
Try to tranceconnect to drm.tamrielscholars.mt/topic/Magnustism. If that still doesn't work, try to adjust your neurowifi connection options or your psychobrowser needs updating.

But yes User:SithisLorkhan, I see you. Feel free to join into our memothread conversation.


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To: Unaro
From: Velms-Telvanni Alkeno
Re: Falmer and Ayleids

This is brief, sadly because I don't have much to say on the matter. I think that you give the Falmer too much credit. While they were a great civilization, I think the only merrish (or manish or beastial for that matter) civilization to rely on Varliance in general would be the Ayleids. The Falmer were more interested on mimicking the warrior-culture of the Atmorans, and sculpting their cities with ice.

I'm considering asking members of the Synod/College of Whispers to do some research on your topic of Magnustism as well, because (more or less) all the Ayleid ruins in Tamriel are located in Cyrodiil.
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Post » Thu May 31, 2012 12:49 am

You don't actually see it... they maintain a cool silence.
Very few of us actually read anything that appears that isn't a Roleplay and if Fan-Fic does get read it's even less likely someone will comment, that's just the way it is in our place. We do however generally understand what's being said.

Sorry for the OOC post, I just saw my our sub-forum being discussed.
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