Texture pop in with Water reflections : IV

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:01 am

For a while I've been getting this unsightly texture pop ins (that may not be technically correct but visually that is what appears to be happening) on water reflections when I face certain angles.

i.e

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/7227/screenshot177d.jpg

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7541/screenshot176t.jpg

I've run into this problem with several different water replacers, so I don't think they are the problem (the above iamges were taken with Enhanced Water)

The pop-ins can also be yellow and purple. They only seem to affect Far_nifs added by mods; the landscape and vanilla reflectees aren't affected.

Here's my load order

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2]02  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.0]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]09  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0A  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp  [Version 1.06]0B  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]0C  LoadingScreens.esp0D  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp0E  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]0F  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]10  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]11  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp12  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.2]13  WindowLightingSystem.esp14  AliveWaters.esp15  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp16  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp17  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp++  Brighter_Torches.esp18  Fish! - v1.1.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]19  Mage_Guild_Teleport.esp1A  P1DseeYouSleep.esp1B  PTFallingStars.esp1C  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.3.1]1D  Crowded Roads.esp  [Version 2.0]1E  Populated Prisons.esp1F  Purge Cell Buffers - Cell Change.esp  [Version 1.0.0]20  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.0]21  CapesandCloaks.esp++  CM_Better Wine.esp++  RustyItems.esp22  Thieves Arsenal.esp23  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]24  OC+COBL Luggage Patch.esp++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]25  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]26  Alluring Potion Bottles.esp27  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]28  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]29  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2A  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]2B  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]2C  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]2D  00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp2E  A_ship_near_Anvil-7781.esp2F  Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp30  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.8]31  BrotherhoodRenewed - Oblivion XP Patch.esp32  Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp33  ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp34  Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp35  JDNT_Brina Cross.esp36  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp37  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp38  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp39  OCC-KR-Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp3A  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp3B  GlenvarCastle.esp3C  Malevolent.esp3D  OCC-Malevolent-Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]3E  Nerussa The Wine Collector v1.0.esp3F  Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp40  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]41  Elder Council Plugin 1.1.esp42  Villages1.1.esp43  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 2.0.3]44  za_bankmod.esp45  TOTF.esp46  OCC-TOTF-Patch.esp  [Version 5.0]++  TOTF Delayer.esp47  RTT.esp48  RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]49  OCC-RTTv3 Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]4A  The Lost Spires.esp4B  OCC-Lost Spires-Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]4C  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.2.COBL]4D  Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]4E  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.7]4F  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.4]50  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.4]51  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0]52  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0]53  PTMudwater.esp54  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]55  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp56  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]57  xulTheHeath.esp58  XulEntiusGorge.esp59  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]5A  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]5B  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]5C  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]5D  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]5E  KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp5F  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]60  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]61  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]62  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]63  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]64  KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp65  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]66  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]67  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]68  KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp69  xulPantherRiver.esp6A  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6B  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]6C  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]6D  RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp  [Version 1.3.4]6E  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]6F  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]70  TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp71  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp72  Villages-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp73  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]74  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]75  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]76  Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]77  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp78  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp79  OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp  [Version 1.0]7A  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.1]7B  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp7C  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp7D  ImpeREALForts+BrinaCross Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]7E  ImpeREALForts+LostSpires Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]7F  Open Cities Reborn.esp  [Version 0.9]80  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - OCR.esp  [Version 1.1.1]81  OCR + OOO Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]82  OCR+ULCH Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]++  OCC-COBL-Wells.esp83  OCR+ULBWForest Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]84  OCR+Cheydinhal Falls Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]85  OC+ULSkingradOutskirts Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]86  NRB4+RR Patch.esp  [Version 2.1]87  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Better Lava by elveon.esp88  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp89  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.1.3]8A  MidasSpells.esp8B  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]8C  Oblivion XP.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Glenvar Castle.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Lost Spires.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Colovian Highlands.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Lost Coast.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Brena.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Blackwood Forest.esp++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.76]8D  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]8E  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]8F  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]90  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]91  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]92  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]93  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp**  NRB4 OCReborn Road Record.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.2]94  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Any help as to finding the cause of the problem would be appreciated.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:39 am

I don't have an answer to the problem, but have you tried the OBGE Liquid Water yet? It's seriously by far the best water replacer and it might bypass the problem you're having with the default water entirely.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:20 am

Does that have any impact on FPS (compared to normal water reflections). I'm extremely cautious about installing OBGE anyway since the last time I tried things went disastrously wrong...

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:07 am

Does that have any impact on FPS (compared to normal water reflections). I'm extremely cautious about installing OBGE anyway since the last time I tried things went disastrously wrong...

As long as you don't change any of the reflections ini settings and you run no shaders alongside it, there isn't any impact on FPS as far as I can tell. If you install the OMOD you don't have to have OBGE installed beforehand and you can just disable the omod if it doesn't work out. But that most likely still wont fix the texture pop in. I imagine you could disable statics reflection if you'd rather have no texture pop in than statics reflections.