Textures are absolutely horrendous

Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:11 am

It is a FACT that there is many horribly sub-part textures that have no excuse to be here.
It's even more egregiously visible because they stand side by side with actually well-done textures (seeing the detailed and high-textured face of a NPC, with a horribly blurry jacket just below his chin, is really irritating).
The game has absolutely gorgeous graphic design and sceneries, but both are horribly jarred by out-of-place blurry/blocky textures that pop here and there.

The amount of fanboyist knee-jerk defense against any and all criticism, no matter how well-founded, has to stop. It's stupid and actually does a dissservice to the game.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:55 am

I wish developers would stop ruining pc games catering to ignorant 12 year old console gamers with hardware from a decade ago.

But i guess its easier to sell a game when the entire playerbase is ignorant and doesnt know anything.

If this was PC only it would be a joke and a huge flop as everyone here knows this is how games looked and played 6 years ago.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:53 pm

From how Todd was going on and on about the level of detail they put into everything... this is just so disappointing. Look at anything close up, and it looks like it came straight from the PS2.



Jesus christ, stop circle strafing walls. If you actually play the game you cant even notice the low res textures.

Look at this

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1282046-this-game-looks-like-its-from-1995/page__hl__1995
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:25 am

I've downloaded ~900 megabytes of hires textures, installed the FXAA Post Process Injector, spent an hour to fine tune its settings and now my game looks 10 times better. Good to be a PC user.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:38 pm

Well since the last patch, I've had popping textures (flashing) so I agree with the op. There are major bugs in this game that need to be fixed. Love it anyway.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:06 pm

Games don't swap out different texture sets depending on your settings these days. There's one set of mipmapped .dds files which scale down for LoD (saves disc space). They have to work on a variety of hardware, from an ageing machine with a lowly 512 MB graphics card to a supercomputer. If Beth only included high-res textures then they'd excluding low spec machines, thus limiting their user base and sales; so textures are scaled down on things that aren't really important, like the edge of a table, to keep the overall memory usage manageable.

Open world games like Assassin's Creed have low-res textures, and a really terrible LoD too. It just doesn't notice so much because the action is fast moving, you're stuck in third person and you never put you face right up against something.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:28 am

im not even reading the crap here , but i see some people still deny the horrible textures. Try playing a thief.. you are supposed to be up close to everything , i constantly stand inches from peoples backs , i constantly sneak all the way up to a dresser or whatever.. this is coming from a guy who doesnt even mind morrowind graphics. but this , this is a joke from bethesda's side. good thing i already modded the hell outta my game visuals.. good job to those who do retextures , you are saving this game.

just had to edit to say : stop defending bad work.. you are the same kind of people who just blindly accept whatever crap you are fed and its tiresome.. btw skyrim isnt crap but its safe to say this is really really bad.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:39 am

I wish developers would stop ruining pc games catering to ignorant 12 year old console gamers with hardware from a decade ago.

But i guess its easier to sell a game when the entire playerbase is ignorant and doesnt know anything.

If this was PC only it would be a joke and a huge flop as everyone here knows this is how games looked and played 6 years ago.


im 33 and i own console and pc, in fact the average console owner are around 25-30.
what about all the ignorant 12year pc owners (with the latest hardware) playing old games like counterstrike/wow/starcraft/the sims from 2 decades ago?
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:50 am

im 33 and i own console and pc, in fact the average console owner are around 25-30.
what about all the ignorant 12year pc owners (with the latest hardware) playing old games like counterstrike/wow/starcraft/the sims from 2 decades ago?


Gameplay.

Beth sacrificed Gameplay on this for consoles.

At least they compensated with graphics.

Oh wait.

People played unmodded Morrowind for 10 years or more, some still do. You think people will play Skyrim
Unmodded for 10 years? LOL
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:29 am

He's either on a console or has a POS computer.

It always amuses me though how people rage when their 6 year old Dell piece of crap doesn't play a game on max settings.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:42 pm

Jesus christ, stop circle strafing walls. If you actually play the game you cant even notice the low res textures.

Look at this

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1282046-this-game-looks-like-its-from-1995/page__hl__1995


Wrong. Go, talk to a person and take a look at their clothes...
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:37 pm

He's either on a console or has a POS computer.

It always amuses me though how people rage when their 6 year old Dell piece of crap doesn't play a game on max settings.


How will having a beast computer magically make textures appear better?

If you use a very large monitor and sit close to it textures will appear more bloated. Especially on a resolution less than 1920x1080.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:41 am

Weapons, clothes and armors seem to have lower resolution textures than Oblivion. I'm on PC and I also reinstalled it (Only Oblivion, no MODs) to see if it was my memory playing tricks. Commoner clothes are very low res, same for weapons when looked at from 1st person view. This, with all graphic options set to max
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:08 pm

Here are some screens using the FXAA post-processing mod.

It adds a subtle but very significant improvement to the quality of the image. I'm using Preset 1, which adds some sharpness and saturation to the game. There are other presets if you just want to add color depth and not sharpness, etc.

Will add a few more seconds to loading screens, but not a big deal tbh.

I'm running the game on standard high settings, NO FXAA, only 8x AA/AF @ 1920x1080 (I did turn shadows to medium though, instead of high for better FPS). So these are not maxed out settings at all.

Stock:
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5679/screenshot42356.png
Mod:
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1606/screenshot42266.png

Stock:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/953/screenshot34003.png
Mod:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2384/screenshot34086.png

Stock:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3913/screenshot43244.png
Mod:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3844/screenshot43356.png

Stock:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8905/screenshot32441.png
Mod:
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/51/screenshot32366.png

Stock:
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8973/screenshot16718.png
Mod:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/435/screenshot16670.png

Stock:
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1563/screenshot70746.png
Mod:
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5359/screenshot70651.png

I highly recommend it if the washed out colors are bothering you, or if you want to add some crispness and depth to the textures. I like that the mod has an enable/disable function bind to your Pause/Break key. It really shows you how much of a difference it makes.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:18 am

It is a FACT that there is many horribly sub-part textures that have no excuse to be here.
It's even more egregiously visible because they stand side by side with actually well-done textures (seeing the detailed and high-textured face of a NPC, with a horribly blurry jacket just below his chin, is really irritating).
The game has absolutely gorgeous graphic design and sceneries, but both are horribly jarred by out-of-place blurry/blocky textures that pop here and there.

The amount of fanboyist knee-jerk defense against any and all criticism, no matter how well-founded, has to stop. It's stupid and actually does a dissservice to the game.

Oh jesus [censored] christ I was half through typing in essay about this but really, all you people are 12-year olds who didn't get the candy they expected so they whine over and over until someone does something about it. It's getting really tiresome, I mean just look at the topic "Textures are absolutely horrendous", it should have been automatically locked as it has nothing to do with constructive criticism whatsoever no matter how you look at it.

Edit: I don't mean you specifically either, as I can't deny the fact that some textures are all-to-[censored]-hell, but they're all textures you can look away from, or you're SEARCHING for bad textures.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:58 pm

From how Todd was going on and on about the level of detail they put into everything... this is just so disappointing. Look at anything close up, and it looks like it came straight from the PS2.

I think you may need to upgrade to a HD TV my friend.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:46 am

Also if it is uninstalled except for the lucky few, hope the patch sorts it. Game enviorments are fantastic but up close its just fuzzy.


My textures on the Xbox 360 are sharp close by.
Some are not of course but in general.
Maybe cause I have the latest version of Xbox and its a different hardware?
No idea.

I have seen some texture issues on xbox on internet and I have a ton better looking game then that.

I never installed it though, I dont dare too. The loading times are not that bad uninstalled anyway, but still 5 times longer then the PCs, which is over in a snip.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:21 am

I'll admit, the textures are "unique" at times, but I love how they add up and are absolutely beautiful together. I'm a 360 user, btw.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:45 pm

All this whining.

Having texture problems? You better check your specs before you break your specs.

This engine has a tendancy to downgrade textures in order to keep FPS up.

Update drivers, lower some settings, raise others.

Just to do a quick test. start a new game, and pay attention to the chain mail mesh under the shoulders of the guy sitting in the wagon in front of you.
Is it blurry? Or do you see metal rings?

If' it's blurry, you have a problem.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:22 am

Edit: I don't mean you specifically either, as I can't deny the fact that some textures are all-to-[censored]-hell, but they're all textures you can look away from, or you're SEARCHING for bad textures.

No, they're actually jumping in your face if you're not completely blind - or blinded by sheep mentality.
I didn't "searched" for them, they're just REALLY EGREGIOUS and standing out (again, particularly because there is so often a good texture right aside a really bad one).
There is nothing wrong with pointing out flaws, ESPECIALLY flaws that were already lengthly talked about in the forum before the game was shipped out (meaning Bethesda was aware of them), ESPECIALLY when these flaws are VERY visible for anyone with half of a working eye (again, meaning that Bethesda couldn't have missed them), and even more especially considering it's really not a lot of work to put the high-res texture in the image rather than the low-res ones.

Arguing "yes there is a problem but YOU'RE A KID IF YOU ACTUALLY NOTICE IT BECAUSE I SAID SO !" or putting fingers in ears and saying "NO THERE IS NO PROBLEM YOU'RE ALL WHINING AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE YOUR HARDWARE IS BAD !" is puerilistic in the extreme and only show a total lack of critical mind.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:38 pm

Funny, I was just marveling about how well the game looks when I turned the game on after watching T.V.
My exact words were, "Damn, how can they make it look so good?"
ALL textures in every game I have played are noticeably splotchy-looking when viewed extremely up close, which is easy to do if you run into a wall on 1st person
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:02 am

Arguing "yes there is a problem but YOU'RE A KID IF YOU ACTUALLY NOTICE IT BECAUSE I SAID SO !" is puerilistic in the extreme and only show a total lack of critical mind.

No idea what puerilistic is supposed to mean anyhow :D
And if you really are trying to quote me you seem to have misinterpreted alot of what I actually meant. I'm saying the problems with the textures are easy to ignore and because of this, there is no need to moan about it anyways and should rather request a mod instead of moaning and moaning.
But yes I guess if you dumb it down to pure feelings; "THE PROBLEM IS SMALL BUT I WHINE ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DIDNT GET WHAT I WANTED BUT WHINING DOESNT HELP AT ALL ANYWAYS" so yeah, I guess you could say people who whine about poor textures in this game are overcritical to say the LEAST.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:07 am

And if you really are trying to quote me you seem to have misinterpreted alot of what I actually meant. I'm saying the problems with the textures are easy to ignore and because of this, there is no need to moan about it anyways and should rather request a mod instead of moaning and moaning.

I perfectly understand your point, and my answer is :

1) No it's not easy to ignore (that's quite why I said that they are particularly egregious, something ugly that jump in your face in the middle of something beautiful is not easy to ignore).

2) WHY should people ignore blatants and rather inexcusable flaws ? So far the only reason I've been led to see about this answer is "because fan-boys don't like 'their' game being criticized", which is hardly a good reason.

(note : when I say "inexcusables", it's not because of the "gravity" of the flaw, it's because it was impossible to miss and easy to fix ; I can't and won't blame Bethesda for letting pass a minor bug that is easy to miss, but I sure will blame them about not even bothering to put their high-res texture in the PC release, or to not have corrected the blatant clash between good textures and ugly ones)

But yes I guess if you dumb it down to pure feelings; "THE PROBLEM IS SMALL BUT I WHINE ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DIDNT GET WHAT I WANTED BUT WHINING DOESNT HELP AT ALL ANYWAYS" so yeah, I guess you could say people who whine about poor textures in this game are overcritical to say the LEAST.

Or people claiming they are "whining" and "moaning" and the like are acting like kids and overly generous with a very glaring flaw ?
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:19 pm

From how Todd was going on and on about the level of detail they put into everything... this is just so disappointing. Look at anything close up, and it looks like it came straight from the PS2.


And now you know why a personal computer costs more than $300 US.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:15 am

Or people claiming they are "whining" and "moaning" and the like are acting like kids.........


*taps tip of nose in an agreeable manner*

Getting really tired of the term "whining" or any variant of.

How dare anyone voice a contrasting opinion. We all should know only their opinion is valid. It's their world, we are all just living in it. <_<
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