tgm saveable?

Post » Mon May 07, 2012 8:11 am

I once got stuck on a file cabinet.

Tcl was helpful there.
Setscale 5 was also helpful in Skyrim for my giantess fascination. :hubbahubba:
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 3:01 pm

i dont get it..... people get pissed at someone that cheats in a game that they paid for....its their game....if they want to cheat they can........cheaters unite......hahahaha.
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I think it might be that we play the game for different reasons......sometimes we want a challenge.....sometimes we want a feeling of accomplishment.....and sometimes we want to just sit down have fun and play the game for the story and graphics
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 3:53 am

I once got stuck on a file cabinet.

Tcl was helpful there.
Setscale 5 was also helpful in Skyrim for my giantess fascination. :hubbahubba:
cant go wrong with giant hot women.......i made a few 7 foot prosttutes for the new vegas strip
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 6:51 am

I use the console for mod-testing and if I need to correct some sort of glitch. And on mod-test only playthroughs I sometimes, you know, force 35 Easy Pete clones to fight 25 Sunny Smiles clones + a giant Cheyenne in an Ultimate Goodsprings Death-match! :disguise: NPC wars ftw!
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:05 am

i dont get it..... people get pissed at someone that cheats in a game that they paid for....its their game....if they want to cheat they can........cheaters unite......hahahaha
Again, never said that people aren't allowed to cheat, I'm just curious as to how playing with a permanent tgm could be fun what so ever.
It's not a retorical curiosity either, I really want to know how it's supposed to be fun.
And I'm fine with people cheating, it's their copy of the game so they can do whatever they want with it. As long as they admit that they are indeed cheating and are contempt with it.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 7:04 am

Again, never said that people aren't allowed to cheat, I'm just curious as to how playing with a permanent tgm could be fun what so ever.
It's not a retorical curiosity either, I really want to know how it's supposed to be fun.
And I'm fine with people cheating, it's their copy of the game so they can do whatever they want with it. As long as they admit that they are indeed cheating and are contempt with it.
i have alot of fun playing the game when im in god mode....i can relax and concentrate on the story , game design , and graphics.......as i said , i think its all about the reason you are playing the game in the first place.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 12:33 pm

i have alot of fun playing the game when im in god mode....i can relax and concentrate on the story , game design , and graphics.......as i said , i think its all about the reason you are playing the game in the first place.
But... Why not just lower the difficulty to Very Easy or Easy or hell, Normal?
I mean, god-mode kinda pushes over the edge, while I can agree that playing a game in relax mode without having to worry about consequences can be nice, I think that god-mode is kinda too much.
Especially when Very Easy is basically God Mode -0.1. :confused:

I still think a game should have some form of challenge to it, otherwise I don't see the point to gaming. But that's just me and my view.
Oh well, going back to the OP's request which was what this thread was all about: I still think that every single PC Fallout player can spare 2 seconds to type 'tgm'.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 4:19 am

ya gabrial u stoopid raptur i think god mood is a chalenje u idiut get out



But on a more serious note, the laughed when you said "it gives me time to enjoy the graphics"

Who cares about the graphics? FO1, Tactics, and FO2 were GREAT and had bad graphics (as of right now, in the 1990's they were AMAZING)
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 9:26 am

(Where the hell is this mentality coming from about cheating? Why do some people think it's only cheating if it's done in a multiplayer game? It's a really bad justification that "It's my game, I can do whatever I want with it", cause while it's correct that you own the game it isn't your game, it is the developers game, and they set the rules, if you break the rules there is no justification for it, you have cheated.
tl;dr: "Stop having fun guys"

I don't cheat (except to get over bugs, like the upgraded ED-E getting stuck one) but seriously, it wasn't necessary to give the OP grief for playing the game the way he likes. I'm guessing you don't feel this way about mods, most of which allow you to play the game a way the devs did not intend.

My only objection to cheating is that, if you're in a multiplayer game, it ruins the game for everybody else. Since the only experience you're potentially ruining in an SP game is your own... I couldn't care less, as long as you don't brag about your accomplishments or whine about how the game is boring as a result.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 9:40 am

Only mods I got are mods to make the game harder.
If it's cheating to make the game even more brutal, challenging and balanced them I'm cheating my ass off.

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Oh and those mods are used because of flawed developer design.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 10:16 am

Only mods I got are mods to make the game harder.
If it's cheating to make the game even more brutal, challenging and balanced them I'm cheating my ass off.

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Oh and those mods are used because of flawed developer design.
But but,
it isn't your game, it is the developers game, and they set the rules, if you break the rules there is no justification for it, you have cheated.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 8:07 am

But but,

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Then I'm cheating my ass off. :)
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 9:09 am

Okay, okay, I was out smoking and pondered on how to reformulate what I previously said and I think I got it:

If you break the game rules that the developers set out for the design of the game there are two ways to it, one is cheating, the other is not.

How is it cheating?
Breaking the game rules in favor of your character is cheating, like giving yourself an extra 100 to 9000 in carry weight limit cause you don't like bein overencumbered or using 'kill' on any stronger enemies cause you're too lazy to actually fight it on your own or using tgm at the Boomer's base to get in.

How is it not cheating?
When you find the game unbalanced and you tweak it in your favor. You are breaking the game design but it's for a just cause; You find the game design to be flawed, broken or undetailed and you decide to 'fix it'.

Let's take an example.
Using a mod to give yourself a perk every level breaks the design in favor of your character. Cheating.
Using a mod to give yourself a perk every third level breaks the games design in favor of balance and perma-nerfing your character. Not cheating. If anything this goes completely against cheating as you're willingly [censored] yourself over.

I use a cheat actually.
I never liked the exp distribution in New Vegas.
A lot of people complain that they level up too fast, but I don't.
Cuase I don't go out and explore every inch of the map, I don't do every single quest as I roleplay and not every quest fits my character.
I don't get a lot of exp. And since I use a perk every third level, no health gain per level and less skill points per level I need to level up faster.
So I use a mod I created to give myself +400% more experience points for everything in the game.

I might think that the game is unbalanced but it doesn't change the fact that I'm using a tweak in favor of my character.
I am cheating with that part.
I am on the other hand not cheating with any of the other mods I'm using.
Except maybe Unlimited Companions. But since I don't give companions top tier stuff they just die on me anyway. :/

So if you are tweaking the game in favor of your character, to make things easier and simpler then it's cheating.
If you are tweaking the game to make it harder for your character then it's not cheating.


Then there are variations to both sides but I'm too lazy to get into those.
But anyway, using tgm is cheating, my +400% exp mod is cheating (despite the other mods I use to make the game harder), using a perk every level mod is cheating.

At least that's my view on it right now.
I'm still trying to figure out a better way to explain it.
But yeah, it's just my opinion on it, not really "fact".

I think that the developers rules should be followed in the game unless they've made crap rules that need to be broken in order to create new rules that are superior.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 6:39 am

That's fair. My original point was that it's all preference, and none of them makes you an objectively superior or inferior gamer.

For myself though, I'm more inclined to shrug and just say that singleplayer cheating is not bad, especially in an RPG. I'd also say that the developer's 'rules' should be seen, as the infamous pirate Geoffrey Rush once said, more like guidelines.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 4:00 am

Unless you're gaining a direct advantage over someone else by cheating (which I consider to be altering the game to make is easier), it's not really wrong, I suppose.

But if ones does, they can't really act indignant when people give them crap for it, either. As for what makes someone a "superior" or "inferior" gamer, that can't be objective. Such categorizations are entirely subjective, and as such, they are entirely open to debate.
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