yeah Assassins creed 2 was just as open as a TES game but still I stopped playing it after 10 hours.. I just got bored of it.

TES games shine.. they have CLASS. AC2 felt like it was made by teenagers.

Even fallout 3 only kept me busy for 2 months. I suppose there are more roleplay options in a fantasy setting than a post apocalyptic.

There is also more romanticism in using a sword than a shotgun.

Bethesda is my secrete lover

Yeah, well. STALKER blows TES out of the water and pulverizes it in mid air with a glance. It's not even an rpg, and it does the role playing bit better. Sorry. I had to say it. Anyway, I still enjoy TES games, but only after stalker, thief, and loz. You kill the mainstream games of today. But then, you've become more mainstream yourselves. Whatever.

*claps*

This thread lasted a very surprising amount of posts before someone came in to declare their hate. 50 posts! If this was in the Fallout forum it wouldn't have even lasted 5!

My opinion is that if you're going to be a Bethesda fan, you've got to deal with all the hate that's out there for them, of which there's a lot. Bethesda fans are used to seeing people hate on Beth or hate on their games, so what you're saying isn't going to phase anyone here, and only really serves to bring unneeded negativity to the thread. But you are entitled to your opinion.

uh, thanks. I just grouped Bethesda's TES with the three greatest gaming series, I've ever played. You're entitled to believe they are the greatest developers of all time. You are entitled to that opinion.

Lots of nostalgia in here, so I might as well contribute with my TES story.

I used to read a lot of magazines and stuff on my spare time. My cousins would encourage me by giving me various magazines and stuff like that. This trend continued for quite a while, and I remember that one of my cousins gave me an issue of Game Informer one day. There was a preview for Shivering Isles, and it looked really interesting, but what REALLY interested me was an interview with a Bethesda employee (Emil something) about how they tried to create believable NPCs with their own schedules and lives, and how he said something along the lines of "Its our job to make a world for the player to live in. If we make generic and boring characters that the player skips all of their dialogue, then we've failed." Not related, but I think that somewhere in the interview the developer expressed his agony when they had to get rid of hundreds of dialogue to save disk space.

A few weeks later, I was over at my friends house where we were borrowing games from each other (mostly to get our gamerscores up) when an Xbox 360 copy of Oblivion caught my eye. I took that game home with me, and years later it still hasn't left my possession. He didn't seem to care. "The achievements are easy. But the mage's guild is impossible with this one quest." I really enjoyed that game, consuming at least 300+ hours on it. I later purchased the PC version for the mods, but it ran much better on the 360, and the mods always seemed out of place with the unvoiced dialogue.

Years later, after buying a new laptop and in the market for PC games, I saw Morrowind GOTY at Best Buy, and I bought the game, and had an interesting conversation with the cashier about how he's spent so much time on WoW and how MMOs and RPGs are no good if you have a social life. Still, I purchased the game, and despite the graphics looking a bit dated, I quickly got used to them, and my adventures in Vvardenfell began. Needless to say, I still play the game to this day.

Actually, for me, this isn't about just thanking Bethesda for TES games. TES lead me to Fallout 3, which I must also thank them for. But because of how the forums are arranged, you either have to pick a forum catagory which separates them, or go to the discussion area for topics other than Bethesda games (which is a more appropriate place for the off-topic comments, imo).

Personally, I just love how they make games! bliviongate: :goodjob: :fallout:

Another thing I'd like to thank them for is opening up the construction set to allow us to play with their worlds like a kid with a big bucket of cyber-legos. I've only downloaded two mods and haven't done any modding myself, but I only see this aspect of their games getting bigger and better as time goes on. Do any other game companies do this?

And, thanks for these forums. A lot on intellect at work here and quite a diverse group! As a moderator on another type of forum, I'd have to say it's a tight ship, but run well.

I remember my older brother going on a walk to Stapes with my parents on a cold winter day here in Vancouver. Of course I decided not to go because I was lazy and I wanted to play Age of Mythology, one of my favorite games. My brother came back with two PC games, a FPS/TPS WWI game called "Iron Storm" and, of course, the Morrowind GOTY edition. Iron Storm looked cool but Morrowind looked amazing. I actually thought that Morrowind, Bloodmoon and Tribunal were completely different games at first and was not corrected until years later. I believe that it was Iron Storm I played first, interesting story, I never made it past the first level even though I must have played it about 50 times.

I remember first playing Morrowind about a week or so after my bother came back with it. He did not like it. He did not know how to play it though. I on the other-hand, being the little 7 year old self that I was, was killed by that first little Kwama Forger you meet right down the road from Seyda Neen. I always got killed by that guy. I did not know about taking everything off the tables in the Census Offices. I did not even know about the inventory. I had never played a game like Morrowind. I hated it. It seemed pointless and I was made uncomfortable by the way at asked what "six" do you want to be instead of "gender."

Years later, when I was about 9, I found my cousin playing it on my computer when he came to visit. He had awesome armor on and awesome weapons. He killed a Hlaalu guard to get the stuff and did it without being reported. The game suddenly looked awesome to me. The giant mushrooms, Dwemer ruins, Daedric shrines all that jazz was just amazing. I thought it was the coolest thing in the world. My cousin taught me how to play and I learned quickly because he taught me cheats. I did not play for the quests or lore, no sir. I played to run super fast and kill everyone in the game world with one hit and freeing slaves. I must have made about 20 characters named "God of Death". I loved it. It was great. When I heard about TES IV in a PC gamer magazine at Stapes I freaked out. I could not wait. It was great.

Strangely enough, when I played Oblivion I played it properly. I did the main quest and side quests but most importantly I did not kill people. With Oblivion I had a sense of morality that I now carry with me into Morrowind. Oblivion was great. Oblivion was my favorite game ever. I had it for the PC. The problem with the PC version was that I could use cheats. I got addicted to using cheats (movetoqt) so I never had an honest character. I always made my strength really high and my speed full.

The best move I ever made with the series was switching to the Xbox 360. Sure I loved the Oblivion mods but damn the game is so much more awesome without cheats. Oblivion finally felt like a second life instead of a game. Oblivion was my favorite game and is now tied in first place with Morrowind after I have played it without cheats.

I have recently played Daggerfall and Arena which I love very much. They are not up there with my favourite games but they are great. Arena has the best atmosphere of any game I have ever played. THere is something about that game that is soooo awesome. Magickal is the word I think.

I am glad that I can put myself into the same category as Seti18. I'm not an Oblivion fan or a Morrowind fan. I am an Elder Scrolls fan.


None of this will matter soon, though, because The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is the best game in the universe. <-(get it?)


Nah I'm just kidding. The next installment in the TES series will be my favourite. I am sure. I have no doubt.

Their games are in the spirit of the old, pen and paper rpgs, because of that freedom. Moreso than Bioware rpgs, which I generally deplore.


Yes. Valve. GSC. Others I can't name. I think it's a business thing, not releasing the tools.

Yep, thanks so much Bethesda for making this game series. Oblivion and Morrowind are greatest games I have ever played. I'll probably cry tears of joy when TES5 is officially announced let alone how happy I'll be to actually hold it in my over excited hands.

Here Here! :foodndrink: :celebration:

May Bethesda last for eons!

I have to concur with all of the previous posters in this thread, Bethesda Softworks is a marvelous company and has produced some of my favorite games to date:(Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3...) Personally I have a great admiration for all of their staff and faculty, for such great progress,evolution, and innovation and hope to see the same quality in their upcoming projects.

this

What he said. ^^

I concur. I have spent years looking at games in the isles of various outlets and thinking to myself, "But it's not Morrowind." Nothing compares to that sandbox. I, too, have been ruined by Bethesda.

Your "secrete lover"? :unsure: Dont even want to know what that sort of relationship entails.....

I would also like to add my voice to this chorus of praise by saying "Damn You Bethesda by ruining my life by making me stay fixated to a screen in your glorious game worlds that wont let me leave!"

I swear, I'll go outside when outside is better than games

Yes thank you for making the series I waited my whole life for!!! I always wanted a game that you could go any where and explore everything. Open-ended and set in a fantasy medevil setting.
Thank you Bethesda for reading my mind and making my dream a reality!!!

Thank you for SkyNET, the best game BGS ever made!!! Oh and thank for those... what are they called? The Elder... ermm, something... Meh, whatever
*goes back to playing SkyNET* :gun:

A toast to Bethseda, for spoiling us with such great videogames! :foodndrink:

a ghost ..... are u sure

anyway I too thank beth. for all their work and the modders for all thier awsomeness.

Bethesda is far and away my favorite game company. Why? Because they have perfected the open world RPG that gives the player the freedom to be anyone they want, go anywhere they want, do anything they want whenever they want. Its that freedom that attracted me to Morrowind back in 2003, it's that freedom that keeps me playing Morrowind all these years later, and it's that freedom that led me to play and love other Bethesda games, namely Daggerfall, Oblivion and Fallout 3. Of course freedom is by no means the only thing these games have going for them (Tamriel is one of the most detailed and well developed, if not the most detailed and well developed, video game worlds ever) but I think that freedom has become the distinguishing trait of a Bethesda game and I love it. So thank you Bethesda for creating the greatest video games ever, and thank you to the modders for making those great games even better.

Yeah, thanks for making games that can still be played years after their releases and be enjoyable. Arena and Daggerfall as the oldest ones come to mind.

I agree completely. They, along with Bioware, are the only devs from which I have consistently enjoyed their games. I have sunk hours into their games. Much more than I do for others.
Kudos and am definitely getting excited for ESV.

Come to think of it Beth. have set the bar so high, I can't look at most of the games that came after fallout3 they are either too short, too lame, too corny...etc.

with all of Morrowind/Oblivion/Fallout3 flaws, they are still among the best games out their, only the Gothic series and diablo and starcraft come to mind now as I think of ES 3 and 4 and FO and this shows you how amazing Beth. are.


and when ES 5 come out I shall do the Faterwakin dance VIGOROUSLY :woot:

I agree. Crap devs like EA make games that you can get what, 13 hours of gameplay?