Favourite - Nords

Dislike - Argonians, and after them Orcs, Khajits and Bosmer.

Care to expand? I'd like to see what people dislike about these races. I can understand Bosmer, though, what with Bethesda's bad representations.

And Yngh, I have no idea what you're getting at, here. You really are rambling.

You're trying to tell me the Tribunal weren't gods? I beg to differ. Vivec can challenge an attack by Sheogorath. I mean, just look at Dagoth Ur at the end of Morrowind. Fully charged up, and he's invincible. Sure, I "kill" him in the first room, but that's just because he wants to show off Akalukhan in the next room. After that, he can't be killed. Sure, game mechanics allow me to kill him with a 5000pt attack, but that's almost impossible without Bloodmoon exploits.

And Tamriel is not filled with anything that could challenge three (maybe four - this seemed to be what Ur wanted - he may have helped here) fully fledged gods. ure, there's powerful beings and the likes of Numindium may be floating around, but nothing can challenge a god, other than another god. The only other gods are stuk in their planes. The Daedra, other than Dagon, for some reason, never leave their realms, and the Aedra are stuuck in Ath-whats-it-called.

And even so, I doubt any of the gods would actually care enough about a rival empire to intervene. The Nine, regardless of what it often seems in game, don't work for the Imperials.

Orcs got destroyed in TES oblivion, which angers me because they became my favorite race while I was playing Morrowind. In Morrowind they were total badasses. Especially with the Better Heads mod.
There are actually no races which I really hate. Although Oblivion portrayed Bosmer as being annoying as [censored].

I don't think anyone who has disliked the beast races has given an explanation as to why. All disliked races have had an explanation thus far, but no one is brave enough to step forth and give us a good reason. :meh:


What makes you think such a ridiculous thing? It's not like they all got trapped in Oblivion or something.

What makes you think such a ridiculous thing? It's not like they all got trapped in Oblivion or something.
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You misunderstand me. What I meant was, I don't feel that their portrayal did justice to their BA-ness.

I'm guessing the reason they don't like them are because they think they're just generic cat and lizard people even though lore says otherwise.

I remember the first time I loaded up the game and started scrolling through the races and saw an Argonian staring back at me I was like "Attack of the giant lizards!". Now I'm fine with it, but the idea was... semi-new to me. At first I was creeped out by them, but that was like... 3 years ago. Now if I saw a lizard person walking down the street I'd be tempted to run up to them happily and say "The Prey Approaches!". Then I'd probably ask for a picture 'cause the people back at the Bethesda Forums wouldn't believe me.

D: I don't even think with a picture you guys would believe me... darn you photoshop.

Hircine - I put many different ideas in my post because the situation is more complicated than it seemed. God of various sorts probably care for what is going on if the other god is doing it, because they fear other gods, not mortals. A lion wouldn't attack a rabbit if it's not hungry, but if another lion starts rapid expansion, it's going to intervene.

However, to make it simpler, let's just use Occam's Razor here.

You are saying that the Tribunal didn't conquer Tamriel because of some obscure reasons.

I'm saying that they didn't do it because they couldn't.

It's more logical, really.

BTW Ur was betrayed by Tribunal. Forget about him helping them.

About the Dunmer - it's obvious that they would like to enslave everyone outside of Morrowind. Should they conquer Tamriel and create another Empire, it would be heavily based on slavery. Same with the Altmer, really. That's why I would tick the Dunmer or Altmer as the races I hate. On the other hand, they have great lore. The poll is too generic - should I judge by the lore "quality" or racial traits?

It's interesting whether Argonians will behave differently in the next game. Now they are stronger, they conquered Morrowind. I would like to see a conversation between an Argonian and a Dark Elf. I hope it will not be about mudcrabs.

It' far more logical that a GOD could easily do anything they like. I just don't get how you'd think that the Tribunal would get destroyed by a simple army of mortals.


My point is, he's completely against Imperialisation, and he, in fact, wants to reate a Dunmer empire. The want for this could outweigh hi hatred of the Tribunal.


Of course they would. But, my point is, the Atmer merely enslave to be "superior". The dunmer enslave for a practical want for slaves. While neither is ideal, I feel the Dunmer are the lesser of two evils.

The poll is pretty much taking everything into consideation. Though, perhaps not bad in-game representations (e.g. Bosmer)


I hope the Argonians become mad with power, and start their own form of slavery of the weakened Imperials and Dunmer. And try to expand their own empire. would be a great turn of events.

Sorry, I just can't see such power-hungry freaks the Tribunal were NOT conquering Tamriel. If they had the means, they would do it.


The result is the same - enslavement of other races. In fact, maybe Dunmer would enslave their own kin, too, the ones living outside of Morrowind, that is. Altmer probably wouldn't - they are superior, after all.


Don't know about Imperials, but I can imagine that Dunmer are screwed.


Then it's useless. I won't vote.

Hmm, many people like the Bosmer. Why do you dislike them?

No, that's not a factor. Vivec, for example, didn't even seem to mind losing his powers for the good of Morrowind. He was simply a servant of the Dunmer. Almalexia had just went insane. Before she went insane, she was well known for her helping of the Dunmer. Sotha Sil... No one knows.

You're basing this all on a speculated opinion.


The altmer hate ANY impurities. If they don't live up to their expectations, or have the smallest amount of foreign blood, they will enslave them )I believe they're past killing, they found out enslaving was a lot better alternative)


Why? the empire is in total chaos.


I love bosmer. They have amazing lore and culture. I just hate their in game representations.

What? The Tribunal betrayed their so-called allies and friends (Dagoth Ur and Nerevar) and used the Heart to get godly powers. How can you deny that it's not pure power hunger? And when you have power, you strive for more.

I'm not saying that they did only bad things, but remember that all those "good deeds" are shrouded in myths and tradition. Besides, it's really hard to estimate how much powerful Vivec, Almalexia and Sotha Sil really had, so it's kinda tricky. They had to use some of their power to contain the Ghostfence. Maybe they feared that being busy with conquering other lands would make them too vulnerable for a potential strike from Dagoth Ur? I think it's a logical assumption that the Tribunal couldn't conquer all of the world by themselves, because they would have done so if they could.

EDIT: I've read it all again and I think we've gone totally off-topic. We were talking about the Dunmer, not the Tribunal, remember? Now we are talking about Tribunal powers. This is interesting, BTW - http://www.imperial-library.info/content/sotha-sils-last-words


Supposedly, young Altmer are getting more open-minded and are questioning some of the old ways, so one could expect that there would be internal resistance in case of the return of slavery.


Because the Dunmer performed regular slave-hunts in the Black Marsh and it wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that they are the "worst" enemy of the Argonians.

Empire is, in fact, no more.


Ok, but what exactly?

Remember, the Tribunal are quite the definition of a traditional Dunmer. they find Morrowind, and even moreso Vvardenfell to be a holy land. They have no need for any other lands.


I have many things to say about the Tribunal and Ur rivalry, but that's another argument.


Pff.. being of-topic is what Bethed'a forums are all about!

And yes, very interesting. I like how he describes where his city is. Is this riddle, do you think? Or is he blatantly saying "I won't tell you"?


This is another thing I hate. It completely ruins Altmer culture. They aren't supposed to be "open minded". If the world carries on like this, we're going to just have one big copy of Earth, with elves.


But if the Argonians become power drunk maniacs, I could really imagine them enslaving men aswell. I mean, look at the land they took from the Argonians, anyway. And look at how racist most of the native Argonians are.


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Much like my many complaints about sheogorath. Bethesda makes Bosmer a joke. They're just there to bully/annoy. It's ridiculous. I mean, just look at Bosmer lore. They're just as badass as the Altmer and Dunmer.

I hate Altmer for their elitist demeanor. Of course there have been some Altmer that I have liked.

My favorite race are the Khajiit. Their culture is the most intriguing to me, what with the roaming clans and moon sugar.

Favorite = Dunmer
"Hate" = Breton

Not that I adore them or anything, but what exactly did Bretons ever do to be hated? Lol.

They... fought amongst themselves and were friendly with everyone.

Well my least fav race would have to be prolly Nords just cause well, they RESEMBLE (key word) barbarians/vikings/neanderthals. But yea orcs are a close 2nd due to being fugly.

My favorite is Argonians, they are the race I basically or we know the least about. Kinda still a mystery to them. Not to mention racials are the best :celebration:

Nords resembling "barbarians" and Vikings is true, but http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00043/neanderthal2_43183t.jpg

Yeah, J'Sar. Didn't you know? Nords resemble the Homo neanderthalensis. It's because their last common ancestor with the Imperials (Homo sapiens) was only about 600kya. :V

Yeah wth, everyone in Cyrodill looks like a neanderthal!

My favorite race are Khajiiti. They are the best.

I don't know which of the others I hate the most. Probably Altmer, just because they are arrogant douches.

Is that sarcasm or do I know too little about Neanderthals to keep up with you? In real life, the Neanderthals died out ~30 000 years ago, no? The seperation between the Nords and Imperials is not as old, nor as great. Their biggest difference is their customs, as far as I understand?

Favourite: Argonian (don't know why, they are just my favorite)
Least Favourite: Altmer. From what I heard about them, I would like to keep a few thousand miles away from where they live (due to how they treat the races they think are inferior (which, according to them, is all of them exept Altmer))

Favourite is Dunmer.

I didn't know what to pick for the hated, Imperials or Altmer, but decided to go with Altmer...