I think in a poll about favourite/hated races, we need to go by stereotypes. Especially when they're true to most of the race. Most Imperials are in fact shrewd, diplomatic invaders that do all I've said. Just like most Altmer are "superior" to everyone else. (note the quotations)

Favorite: Argonian
Least Favorite: Altmer

Edit: Wow, I can't believe the majority agrees with me.

I can never judge an entire group of people without believing there are some good, and some bad mixed in with them. 'Cause it's inevitable. But, much of their culture has to do with taking over other countries, I mean their name is "Imperials", they're imperialistic, which can be good and/or bad for a country.

You can base things off of their general and culture and attitudes without being like "every imperial is an evil shrewd trickster who will do nothing but swindle you out of everything you own.". As a culture, they do some bad things, but it's not like every one individual person is to blame. I still like Imperials.

Well Imperials kickass seeing as they're the only ones capable of making and controlling an Empire, and they're the most balanced and race, they're usually tan and have dark hair so they kind of look like me. All those reasons make them my favorite race. I have a deep hatred for Bosmer because they're short and have the most annoying voice.

Does anyone else actually care about having an Empire, though? I'm pretty sure most other races could, if they wanted, but didn't find it appealing. I mean, the Dunmer ould have taken over all of Tamriel with the power of the Tribunal when they where powerful...

Well the Altmer revived the Aldmeri Dominion, I think this proves that there are other races who find it appealing.

It also proves that Imperials aren't the only ones capable of forming an empire.

Key word being "when." If they had an empire, they still could. But, seeing as how we Imperials are the only ones who have a well-functioning government.

SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T READ THE INFERNAL CITY:


And there should be no more assassinations, as the Mythic Dawn was CRUSHED underneath my righteous and powerful sabatons.

The Empire has risen and fallen an equal amount of times. You better hope that...

SPOILER FOR INFERNAL CITY

Oblivion Spoiler

No. Key word being "could". It would have been simple, they just didn't want to leave Morrowind. Most races couldn't care less about expanding an empire. At the most, they only want to expand thier immediate territory. I think the only ones who do care about an Empire are the Imperials and Altmer. The Altmer's empire only crumbled because tiber Septim cheated. (Numindum doesn't exactly make a fair battle)

"When" cancels out "could," as they no longer "can." Sure, they could've back then, but they passed up the offer, so it's no longer possible. Besides: Morrowind was destroyed. :woot:

And there is no cheating in war. An advancement of technology gives you an edge, but the less technologically inclined can still win a battle. For instance, Britain vs. the Zulu.

What are you talking about? You've just proved my point. They could have, but they didn't want to. And Morrowind wasn't destroyed by then... This was pre-Morrowind (the game)


A "Brass God" can hardly be explained as an "edge". When a god is quite literally directly intervening in a war, it counts as cheating, imo. It doesn't make an empire powerful, for abusing Numindium. The empire didn't need to do a single thing.

Its all very Roman and British, you know the "White mans Burden". Teach the rest of the savage, Barbaric world to be Civil. I better start brushing up on my dark ages, because it seems history is being revisited in TES.

Wellllll...not precisely. All I'll say is that the Septim lineage hasn't completely died out, there are still people in different provinces that are definite descendants of the lineage, I can't remember what their names were though. Looks like we both need to brush up on our lore.

Andorak Septim rules in high rock.
Edit: His line that is

Yeah, but the amulet was destroyed and there are no more Dragonfires. The Septim lineage doesn't hold any power anymore, as shown by the Medes becoming the ruling family in the Empire.

It's a close tie between dunmer and imperial. The imperials i kinda like the nine divine, the septim line is pretty interesting when you read about it. I also just generally like the way they do things, although sometimes i think the empire's lust for power and control over tamriel is annoying.
Then the dunmer... Feel sorry for them really, cursed appearance from azura, what happened with their religion in morrowind and now vfardenfall iscompletely caput isnt it?
But yeah... my two favourites.

Anyone could've turned the tables against anyone at some point in their history. But now their coupons have expired and the clerk won't accept them, so they're all jealous when the Imperials get new ones first.

And the Imperials, if they took over Tamriel and still had Martin as emperor (I hate the Mythic Dawn for what they caused), great things could've happened.

Martin would have been a great emperor, but he had three half-brothers who everybody knew about. Martin didn't know about him being a Septim himself. When Uriel died one of his three other sons would have taken up the throne. They could have all been power-hungry tyrants.

They were all murdered, weren't they? At the beginning of Oblivion, you can here this dialog; "My sons, they're dead."
"We don't know that, sire, the messenger only said they were attacked."
"No, they're dead... I know it."

Or something like that.

The Imperials deserve their place in history. They rose up from being the slaves of the oppressive Ayleids to toppling their empire and conquering all of Tamriel. Long live the empire! Too bad the empire collapsed... but as long as Bethesda shall allow it, I will assist my fellow Imperials and resurrect our lost glory.

Well yeah, but if it weren't for the Mythic Dawn they'd all be alive.

Anyway, the Imperials aren't so bad, they want to do good. They set up schools for Argonians around the border of Black Marsh and they're trying to stop the Skooma trade that leaves many people on the streets and addicted in Elsweyr. They've freed the slaves in Morrowind and done a lot for the good of humanity.

They're just a little too pushy about some things. But Morrowind still held its culture very well, same with all of the provinces really. The only thing they've actually "taken over" is Leyawiin.

They're good at heart, and that's why I love 'em. I think the only culture who isn't generally "good at heart" is the Altmeri one. It consists of believing they are the "closest to gods", looking down upon the other races, and breeding to be more like the Aldmer.

Like I said, "White mans Burden". To civilize these Barbaric Savages with Imperial Law, Education, and Commerce.

Aha, but when all else fails, the civilized send in their savages to do the job

... Though, they aren't really savage... they just fight :shrug:

Yeah, but they aren't enforcing it as much as what happened in real life, with the whole "You listen to me now because I landed here. You will stop worshiping your god(s) because our god(s) are/is the only right one(s)." They give people the option to do things the "imperial way", but they didn't take down the whole Tribunal worshiping business and they didn't destroy the houses so that they could take over.

I strongly dislike the Altmer, but I do love the Dunmer. :wub: