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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:51 am

Yeah, but they aren't enforcing it as much as what happened in real life, with the whole "You listen to me now because I landed here. You will stop worshiping your god(s) because our god(s) are/is the only right one(s). They give people the option to do things the "imperial way", but they didn't take down the whole Tribunal worshiping business and they didn't destroy the houses so that they could take over.

Yup. And they were still uneasy about freeing the slaves. They wanted to respect their ancient rights, but they couldn't let them get away with things that were morally wrong.

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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:31 pm

Yup. And they were still uneasy about freeing the slaves. They wanted to respect their ancient rights, but they couldn't let them get away with things that were morally wrong.

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I'm supportive of the slave-freeing movement. It also meant less deaths when something went boom.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:20 pm

Favorite should be obvious (<-----), and Altmer make good enemies, which probably means I don't like them, but I wouldn't have anyone else as an enemy...
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:34 pm

The empire indoctrinating and controlling the other races is exactly what I like about them. They had the power to do it. Its pretty cool to be able to destroy a culture and implement your own. It shows you're powerful enough to do what you want. Besides, the Imperials never really did that, they just helped the other races.

Yes it is all "white man's burden", but I think America turned out pretty good, right?
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:26 pm

BTW is the new emperor an imperial bandit? im sure i read somewhere he rounded up bandits to attack the imperial city, setting himself up as emperor.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:30 pm

they just helped the other races.

How do you define "helped"?

Yes it is all "white man's burden", but I think America turned out pretty good, right?

Not for the native americans. It's a similar situation. While our expansive and pollutive ways help us, it really makes life hard for the natives. It's the same for the Imperial.

Anyone could've turned the tables against anyone at some point in their history. But now their coupons have expired and the clerk won't accept them, so they're all jealous when the Imperials get new ones first.

Exactly my point! Most of the other races couldn't care less about an empire. The reason they tend to hate the empire, is because they're in thier provinces. NOT because they're jealous (Except, perhaps, the Altmer).

Personally, I would have loved to see the Aldmeri Dominion grow. It would be awesome to be the one to abolish them, and get rid of the slavery of men. Do Altmer still practice the slavery of men?

Anyhoo, this is what I love about Elder Srolls. When there is grey morality, and either side has an argument. Great stuff, Bethesda, great stuff. ^_^
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:01 am

I don't really 'hate' any races, I suppose I dislike Bosmer the most because they look so ridiculous

Favourite race, Nords, no question
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:30 pm

Anyhoo, this is what I love about Elder Srolls. When there is grey morality, and either side has an argument. Great stuff, Bethesda, great stuff. ^_^

I agree. And most of the time, both sides have good arguments. I can actually see why you'd hate Imperials, based on your beliefs, and how mine is different, because we have different perspectives. I still wish the cowards who said they hated Argonians and ran would've stayed to explain why. I wouldn't've come after them with pitchforks and torches until after. :)
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:53 am

Hated-Bosmer,they are sneaky little thieves.

Loved-Dunmer-Badass.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:04 pm

Aha, but when all else fails, the civilized send in their savages to do the job :)

... Though, they aren't really savage... they just fight :shrug:

They are not savages they fight in proper armour and use proper weapons. They also have a super organized way of combat. Roman Phalanx, Centuries, Decades(these are Roman Soldiers not years).

Yeah, but they aren't enforcing it as much as what happened in real life, with the whole "You listen to me now because I landed here. You will stop worshiping your god(s) because our god(s) are/is the only right one(s)." They give people the option to do things the "imperial way", but they didn't take down the whole Tribunal worshiping business and they didn't destroy the houses so that they could take over.

Pax Romana. The Roman Peace. It let the nations conquered by Rome to keep their Religion and Customs, in order to preserve peace. I'm not refering to the British Empire so much as I am refering to the Roman Empire(Which is what the Imperials are based on).
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:55 am

Pax Romana. The Roman Peace. It let the nations conquered by Rome to keep their Religion and Customs, in order to preserve peace. I'm not refering to the British Empire so much as I am refering to the Roman Empire(Which is what the Imperials are based on).

Mhm, I liked that about Rome, which is what Imperials did.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:00 am

They are not savages they fight in proper armour and use proper weapons. They also have a super organized way of combat. Roman Phalanx, Centuries, Decades(these are Roman Soldiers not years).

Eh, the Imperial Legion isn't really that savage. They just like their insults, and they tend to fight savagely out of anger, otherwise their just your normal Army. Occasionally calm, cool, and professional :disguise:.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:34 am

Mhm, I liked that about Rome, which is what Imperials did.

Nice to see some learned people in these Forums.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:15 am

Nice to see some learned people in these Forums.

:shrug: I'm 17, I've still got a lot of learning to do, but then again you never really stop learning anyway.

I also find it very interesting that the Imperial's religion is a lot like the Roman religion. You have the "leader-god" (Zeus/Akatosh), then other entities that control other things like Commerce (Mercury/Zenithar), Art (Minerva/Dibella), War (Mars/Talos), Love (Venus/Mara), Nature (Ceres/Kynareth), Wisdom (Minerva/Julianos), Wealth (Plutus [technically a Greek God]/Stendarr), Death (Arkay/Pluto).

Of course Romans didn't have the Daedra also interfering in their lives, and their gods could be good or bad depending on their mood. They'd kill you if they were having a temper tantrum, in the Roman Religion. The Nine Divines are sort-of there, but they're weakened and they love all mortals, and they really don't do anything bad.

They also have imperials named Roman names, even so far as to name them after roman gods like "Marius" which means "Mars" and "Julitta" which means "Child of Jove". Although I think they were probably just looking for "Roman-Sounding names"
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:12 pm

M'aiq thinks his people are beautiful.

Oh, and I hate the Altmer and the Dunmer. The former for having a preposterous attitude, and the latter for enslaving my favourite race.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:37 pm

:shrug: I'm 17, I've still got a lot of learning to do, but then again you never really stop learning anyway.

I also find it very interesting that the Imperial's religion is a lot like the Roman religion. You have the "leader-god" (Zeus/Akatosh), then other entities that control other things like Commerce (Mercury/Zenithar), Art (Minerva/Dibella), War (Mars/Talos), Love (Venus/Mara), Nature (Ceres/Kynareth), Wisdom (Minerva/Julianos), Wealth (Plutus [technically a Greek God]/Stendarr), Death (Arkay/Pluto).

Of course Romans didn't have the Daedra also interfering in their lives, and their gods could be good or bad depending on their mood. They'd kill you if they were having a temper tantrum, in the Roman Religion. The Nine Divines are sort-of there, but they're weakened and they love all mortals, and they really don't do anything bad.

They also have imperials named Roman names, even so far as to name them after roman gods like "Marius" which means "Mars" and "Julitta" which means "Child of Jove". Although I think they were probably just looking for "Roman-Sounding names"

The nine divines are sort of cross between the G-d and the Olympians.
You added a few Greek names to your Roman ones Zeus is Jupiter in Rome.
And I'm pretty sure All the Greek gods became Roman gods.
There is also the Gothic church style we find in the Nine Divines Temples.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:44 am

The nine divines are sort of cross between the G-d and the Olympians.
You added a few Greek names to your Roman ones Zeus is Jupiter in Rome.
And I'm pretty sure All the Greek gods became Roman gods.
There is also the Gothic church style we find in the Nine Divines Temples.

Yeah, I was just going by memory so I kind-of mixed them up. :facepalm:

I like how they combine a lot of elements to make a whole entire unique culture though. :)
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:08 am

Child of Jove"


Jove is another name for Jupiter for those who don't know


Anyway, Imperials are my least favorite and Bosmer are my favorite
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:21 am

Besides: Morrowind was destroyed. :woot:

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Morrowind was not destroyed. Vvardenfell was completely destroyed, along with coastal cities on the Inner Sea due to the tsunamis. Slightly further inland, moderate damage due to earthquakes. Southern Morrowind covered in ash from prevailing Southern Winds. Not like ash would bother any Dunmer except the old, young or sick anyway. :rolleyes: Northern Morrowind would have hardly been effected by anything but shockwaves because of the Southern winds and the mountainous terrain on both sides of Vvardenfell. Hlaalu, Dres and Indoril territory would be heavily effected by tsunamis (lowland) and ash fallout (even then I doubt it would effect healthy Dunmer.) Northern Telvanni and Redoran territory would be less effected by natural disasters.

The vast majority of the damage was provided by the Argonians, and even then, the Argonians wouldn't be able to clear out every single Dunmer. There is plenty of hiding places. In our technological day and age, enemies still avoid capture even with sensors and satellites and such. It is completely ridiculous to say a large Argonian horde could clear out every Dunmer. Not to mention there is a large Redoran colony on Solstheim that remains, and very very very likely a large Telvanni colony on Telvannis. (simply because Telvannis is very similar to Solstheim, would have been spared any destruction, and would be very very well fortified as the Telvanni capital city is there. Say what you want about the Telvanni, it's completely feasible they are very much alive and kicking.)

Nothing makes me madder than the people who say Morrowind is completely destroyed. It wasn't. The Dunmer are hurt in a bad way, but not nearly as bad as you would think. :rolleyes: Not to mention Divayth Fyr is still alive, so the Dunmer have nothing to worry about. :laugh:

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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:18 am

The obvious answer for my favorite race is Argonian. Second on that list would be Nord. In similar threads, I've always answered Argonian and added one of the human races, since I've never been sure. But lately I've pretty much made up my mind. Scratch that. Had I been a Nord, then my name would have been"... the ambiguous" (if that's the correct word?). I have a very hard time deciding between the human races. I like Nords, but I would be more like a Breton myself (I prefer when my characters reflects on myself in one way or another) and I prefer intelligence over drunken brawls. I play stealth characters a lot too, with some combat abilities, which means I'm better off with Imperials or Nords, so maybe it's best to say that Argonians are #1, with Bretons and Nords fighting for #2, although with some imperial traits and tradition.

There is not a single race that I hate, but the Redguards are my least favorite race. Not because it's the race with the most things that I dislike, but the least things I like.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:34 am

:facepalm: Morrowind was not destroyed. Vvardenfell was completely destroyed,


any chance you could put this sort of stuff in spoiler warnings for those of us who haven't read the book yet?
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:51 pm

Argonians are my favorites because they're just awesome!

I don't like Altmer because, in general, they're a bunch of stuck-up jerks.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:35 pm

any chance you could put this sort of stuff in spoiler warnings for those of us who haven't read the book yet?

The only thing I said was Morrowind was overran by Argonians and Red Mountain erupted and if you don't already know that either of those things happened without reading the book, I dunno what to tell you. :shrug: But I'll humor you.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:52 pm

:facepalm:
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Morrowind was not destroyed. Vvardenfell was completely destroyed


By Morrowind I mean Vvardenfell. I get them confused sometimes. Thanks for proving my point. :chaos:
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:35 am

I'm really hoping that all of the races get some more background and detail in TES:V. *fingers crossed*

Also, I remember reading in http://www.imperial-library.info/content/pocket-guide-empire-third-edition-blessed-isle-alinor-and-summersets under the "Current Events" that many young Altmer are starting to feel that their ethnocentrism and prejudices, as well as their arrogance is ill-founded.

But also some of these people who support the change are killing royal people, as well as historical figures.

I think the Altmer culture of TES:V (which is rumored to take place many years after Oblivion) may be an entirely new culture. They're not so "prim and proper" anymore (among the youth), there are even assassinations and the Psijics are being less picky about who they accept. There is/was also a Dunmer queen in the Summerset Isles.

The elves are changing from their ways of "always doing things the same". The Dunmer stopped worshiping the Tribunal, the High Elves are becoming less ethnocentric, the Bosmer are changing culturally to be more centered around the forests and there's even been the "Wild Hunt" spotted.
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