The 16 Acceptable Blasphemes : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:16 am

16) http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/panoply... how do bad dreams and evil omens protect? Are the bad dreams sent to mortals as 'correctional' - in other words, "you've been a bad Bosmer, and this is what will happen if you keep on being naughty!"

I personally think the "splendid display" definition is what it means. The others don't make sense.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:18 pm

I'd tell you what I think of the Azura Blaspheme but it's so dirty that I can't post it here.

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:17 am

I'd tell you what I think of the Azura Blaspheme but it's so dirty that I can't post it here.

Actually, Shades probably said it already.

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:01 am

Actually, Shades probably said it already.

Phew.

I though I was the only one.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:42 pm

Phew.

I though I was the only one.

Dude, I think that was one of the first things that came into everyone's head when they read that.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:15 pm

I personally think the "splendid display" definition is what it means. The others don't make sense.

Then... would it be possible that she's behind Good Dreams, too? :unsure:

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:44 pm

Then... would it be possible that she's behind Good Dreams, too? :unsure:

Bad dreams can contain a splendid display as well, just one that doesn't act in your favor.

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:36 am

Another interpretation on the Mora one, because we need more pointless yanking: the implication that you're reading something that needs to be held up to the light is that you are in the dark because it's a secret. Either your document or your reading of it.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:05 pm

Another interpretation on the Mora one, because we need more pointless yanking: the implication that you're reading something that needs to be held up to the light is that you are in the dark because it's a secret. Either your document or your reading of it.

Well really, the only time you actually have to hold paper up to light is when you're holding it up to be able to see the writing through an envelope - essentially hidden knowledge.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:45 pm

Well really, the only time you actually have to hold paper up to light is when you're holding it up to be able to see the writing through an envelope - essentially hidden knowledge.

Sounds good

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:28 pm

And he was made of tossed out ideas, so..his knowledge may not even all that correct

So, I take it that he always wins when all the Daedric Princes play Trivial Pursuit? (And Jyggylag always holds bets on the winner, that cheeky bastard)

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:56 am

Well really, the only time you actually have to hold paper up to light is when you're holding it up to be able to see the writing through an envelope - essentially hidden knowledge.

To "hold up to the light" is also a figure of speech meaning to look at something carefully, similar to "shine some light on the issue."

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:23 pm

(And Jyggylag always holds bets on the winner, that cheeky bastard)

And that right there is the real reason he was cursed, he was too good of a gambler, that the other princes had to get rid of him.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:09 pm

To "hold up to the light" is also a figure of speech meaning to look at something carefully, similar to "shine some light on the issue."

Sorry about playing semantics, but could "holding up to the light" and "holding to the light" mean different things? For me the first sounds like you're just trying to see it better, while the second sounds like you're holding it up against it.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:17 pm

Why would Herma Mora's sphere be "blocking light?"

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:55 pm

Why would Herma Mora's sphere be "blocking light?"

I'm sorta thinking of his plane, where all his books look the same, and has everything you could want to know, except for what you actually want to know and you end up searching forever for that one bit of information you want to know. But, I find Luggar2's explanation to be more spot on of what the passage meant

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:30 am

Well really, the only time you actually have to hold paper up to light is when you're holding it up to be able to see the writing through an envelope - essentially hidden knowledge.

See, now I forget...what happens when you hold a twenty dollar bill up to light???

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:10 pm

Herma-Mora's probably refers to his sphere of 'secret knowledge'; holding the paper up to the light represents the illumination of the unknown.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:37 pm

See, now I forget...what happens when you hold a twenty dollar bill up to light???

You see a watermark.

And if it is held under UV light, you get to see a neon strip of color.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:03 pm

or maybe it's an allegory or looking for something that's not there. like looking for "hidden knowledge" that isn't there, yet you're led to believe that there's more to it. it would explain why mora's realm is more or less a trap.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:03 pm

See, now I forget...what happens when you hold a twenty dollar bill up to light???

You see a watermark.

Very true, though the notion is the same either way.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:47 pm

Water mark = Proof of Truth?

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:13 pm

Water mark = Proof of Truth?

Ah, very clever, I guess I didn't actually factor in the intent behind the watermark. Not sure how that would relate to Herma-Mora though.

Btw, in case I've never said it before, flood control svcks... <_<

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:50 pm

Herma-Mora is supposed to keep the secret truths?

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:19 pm

Kinda. I read it as if Herma Mora reminds mortals of the truths they've denied by defining their world.