The Airships! The Blimps! I think they mean something!

Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:38 pm

I just noticed this, and I dont know if this has been posted before.
So, do you guys remember Fallout Tactics? Well, in this game, the intro talked about how the Brotherhood had used Airships to chase the Mutants over the mountains.
Keep in mind, one of these ships crashed near Chicago.
In the Fallout 4 trailer, you see the airships again.
I think, that Bethesda is trying to tell us these two are connected. So, I propose, that these airships are used by the Brotherhood. And, this can maybe have some essentials to the plot as well as DLC. Maybe, just maybe, they will travel to Chicago to find their stranded comrades. Thoughts?
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:54 am

Maybe, they are an awful lot of valid theory's floating around as to who exactly and how these got here.

I liked Tactics myself but its "not Canon" designation really hurts it as a choice it seems.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:21 am

So this theory is old?

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:07 am

Tactics isn't noncanon. You might be thinking of the other game that was designed for PS2 and Xbox, which Bethesda declared completely noncanon. Tactics, on the other hand, is. In fact, part of Lyons's mission on the way to D.C. was to link up with the Brotherhood near Chicago.
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:30 pm

I'm going to go out on a limb and say, don't quote me on this, that the blimp in the trailer might mean that there are blimps in game.

On a more serious note I have no idea.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:13 am

Apparently, Bethesda declared that the game is non canon, but the events, or at least most of them are canon. I believe some of the bigger problems were Tactics weapon selection and its portrayal of things like deathclaws and ghouls. But ultimately, the midwest brotherhood is certainly canon, so logically their airships should be too.

This is as opposed to Brotherhood of Steel, which Bethesda pushed into a 43-foot hole in the ground, buried comletely with a combination of rocks, boulders, gravel, and partially depleted plutonium, nuked the site from orbit, just to be sure, and then declared that it shall never be spoken of again under penalty of death.

And nothing of value was lost (seriously, its like they made that game just to piss off fallout fans.)

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:46 pm

This was a kinder fate than that game deserved.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:23 am

which is funny, because it was less lore-breaking then Tactics was............................

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:27 am

Aside from the Burned Game, Bethesda has said every game is canon, while the events of Tactics are cherry picked by Beth, to fit their narrative. So while the whole game isn't considered canon, it's semi-canon.

It's been thrown around before, but no one can say for certain. The MWBoS who used airships in Tactics, had them all destroyed in a storm, or were destroyed from crashing via the storm. Although the burning airship we see is named Prydwyn, which is likely linked to Lyon's CWBoS, because Prydwyn is the name of King Arthur's ship, and Arthur Maxson, the boy at the Citadel in Fallout 3, is meant to be the boy king.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:32 am

I believe they are Midwestern Brotherhood. The Brotherhood insignia on the airship is the same as the Midwestern Brotherhood's.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:44 am

I Played Bos as well (and to be honest was not filled with hate, just wished it was a lot better, like most the games that played the same way hehe).

I wonder do we have a cannon ending for tactics at least.... ( I seem to remember one had the forming of the Mutant liberation army or something named close to that)

Also its been awhile did the storms take out all the airships I thought a few went down, the rest scattered maybe they regrouped and carried on.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:41 am

"I was born just after the bombs fell."
:facepalm:
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:54 pm

i meant overall..........

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:26 pm

I figured as much. That line in particular is just the most hilarious to me, because it's in the freaking trailer, and is such an obvious mistake. It's just a testament to how little attention to the setting there was in that game. Like, it's not an obscure thing. How many people do you think had to hear that line before they released it to the world?

I don't see how Tactics was so lore breaking. Most of the things unique to it can be easily explained as new content that is unique to the region.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:59 am

well, i think when people say it, they are talking about how it is ONLY in that game and not even referenced in ANY other game. Also, airships and armored cars/trucks and intelligent Deathclaws.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:04 am

Airships are about to be in Fallout 4, and didn't really contradict anything so much as lack explanation of their origins.

Armored vehicles exist in the series. They're just really hard to get running, and wouldn't work well with the gameplay in most of the other games. Fallout 2 had a car, after all.

The Deathclaws are not shown to be of human level intelligence. We know from 2 that they can mimic speech the way a parrot can, and while the intelligent ones of that game were created by Enclave experimentation, it is proof that they have a capacity for greater intelligence than other wasteland creatures (roughly up to that of an 8 year old human child). This Midwestern strain, which is clearly a different type entirely from those in other games (these are hairy), are the offspring of Deathclaws that simply mutated differently from those we see more often. There is a quote on the wiki by a dev admitting that they should've included both types of Deathclaw to show that they are not intended to be the same. But hindsight's 20/20.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:09 am

People have pointed out that the airship had a name referring to Arthurian legend (it was called the Pradwyn or something like that). As a result, they're thinking it might be related to the CWBOS. If I'm off on something, somebody correct me.
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:39 pm

OP I see what you're did there.

You're playing a dangerous game.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:36 am

It means the violet star will fall upon purple razor wire on the aqua beaches of velvet sand. . . shhhhh don't tell anyone :whisper:

Sorry, just having fun with the multitude of theory, guessing, speculating threads.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:01 am

I thought they covered it in pitch, lit it on fire, and dropped it into the Grand Canyon...

The term is "broad strokes canon."

I'm hoping that it is the MWBoS over the CWBoS, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be the latter, if only because Bethesda would rather play with its toys instead of someone else's.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:11 am

i just like to point out that the game that will not be named was developed/produced buy interplay, and it is quite possible that i might have never become a fan of fallout without it (i played all Dark Alliance game engine games back in the day).

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:51 am

The airship could be a sign of MWBOS, but all the BOS chapters should have the knowledge of how to build airships because it was WCBOS who built them, rather than them being something unique that MWBOS discovered.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:59 pm

Or the airship could simply be a sign of rebuilding. I mean, the BoS can't be the only ones to think of that kind of air travel. It would be much safer than land, or sea travel...

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:03 am

I still think the Airship has a Tesla cannon on the front.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:59 am

Not to mention not every Deathclaw in FOT was intelligent or could speak. Plus, it would appear that they could have been effected by the Beast Lords, ie tapping into their brains which increased their inteliigence via the beast lords psychic ability or whatever it was.

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