The Akavir : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:31 am

Does anyone know of the appearance of an Akavir male? Im suspecting its asian based due to their weaponry but i could be wrong.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:44 am

Does anyone know of the appearance of an Akavir male? Im suspecting its asian based due to their weaponry but i could be wrong.

If you mean the Tsaesci: immortal vampire snakemen. In my mind, they look sort of like a spindlier version of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakeman.

You can read a little bit of a description http://til.gamingsource.net/mwbooks/2920.shtml.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:47 pm

I always see them as Yuan-Tis from D&D except without the hoods and a more human looking face.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:26 am

Does anyone know of the appearance of an Akavir male? Im suspecting its asian based due to their weaponry but i could be wrong.

By "Akavir male" I assume you mean Tsaesci, which are the snake men of Akavir.

Then, you should read http://til.gamingsource.net/akavir/index.shtml#tsaesci.

In 2920, they are (well, one of then is) described as "glistening ivory-yellow eel" having "thin, deceptively weak looking arms". They have tales ("His swords seemed to be a part of him, a tail coming from his arms to match the one behind him.").

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:04 am

Oh hmm think i was misinformed hehe but thank you for the information, how did they forge weaponry o.o Hmm well i guess they had arms to make the stuff.

edit:

Tsaesci is "Snake Palace", once the strongest power in Akavir (before the Tiger-Dragon came). The serpent-folk ate all the Men of Akavir a long time ago

Okay good so i can keep my character, even though its highly unlikely a human of akavir escaped ill use a little artistic licence and say one did >.>.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:45 am

Oblivion kind of messes up that image though

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:32 am

In what aspect?

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:49 am

In what aspect?

go to pale pass, it was an Akavir fort but only human corpses are inside it was from the Reman dynast i think so it was of Tsaesci origin i'd think

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:01 am

Oh yes pale pass i remember, the general didnt look like a snake man in any way, he had legs

. Hmm if i recall correctly (which i may not be i may be thinking of the tiber septim one quest) wasnt the general an orsimer. Oh and to make a correction to my characters backround he is half breton half akavir. So the reman fought the tsaesci? then how did the general guarding the draconian madstone have legs? So if we were to assume the warriors were human whats to stop a female akavir from stripping herself of her armor and sneaking into a roadside settlement and passing herself off as an immigrant. Gah the Akavir are such a mysterious people.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:50 am

[...]Gah the Akavir are such a mysterious people.

I wouldn't say so.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:00 am

Correction:

The akavir are such a mysterious people to me

hehe

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:56 pm

Correction:

Correction:

The [creatures living in/on] akavir are such a mysterious people to me

hehe

:P

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:21 am

Meh technicalities technicalities, hehe so any explanation as to how the general of the akaviri army has legs and is tsaesci or should i pass it off as an unlikely group of unlikely akaviri men and women formed an unlikely army and fought in pale pass.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:38 am

Meh technicalities technicalities, hehe so any explanation as to how the general of the akaviri army has legs and is tsaesci or should i pass it off as an unlikely group of unlikely akaviri men and women formed an unlikely army and fought in pale pass.

Legs? What http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=577539&view=findpost&p=8372469?

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:32 am

Oh hmm think i was misinformed hehe but thank you for the information, how did they forge weaponry o.o Hmm well i guess they had arms to make the stuff.

edit:
Okay good so i can keep my character, even though its highly unlikely a human of akavir escaped ill use a little artistic licence and say one did >.>.

Nonsense. There's a whole bunch at Rimmen. Or their descendants, rather. ^_^

Though ostensibly its own kingdom, Rimmen still pays tribute to the Mane of Elsweyr, from whose realm it seceded in CE812 during the Interregnum. Earlier, Akaviri refugees had fled persecution when the warlord Attrebus briefly aspired to the Imperial Throne. Attrebus, though he lasted no longer than most of the pretender kings of that period, thought he might rid Cyrodiil of the foreigners who had ruled it for the first half of the Common Era, and he drove the Akaviris past the Empire's borders into Elsweyr. The khajiit granted them asylum in the hills and steppes of northwestern Elsweyr, where they dwelt in relative seclusion until remnants of the Dir-Kamal resurfaced in Cyrodiil, seizing the Throne from Attrebus' successors. The Rimmen (literally, the "Rim Men," as the khajiit called them) joined their brothers to try to rebuild the Empire. This effort was doomed to failure, but not before the khajiit attempted to reclaim their lands in a series of bloody border wars. Currently, since the ascension of Tiber Septim, the hapless Rimmen have once again submitted to the protection of the Mane, with a renewed tribute paying for the Cat Lord's guarantee of their independence, a truly weak reed upon which to lean.

So, there's "Akaviri" in Rimmen, who are called "Rim Men." This strongly suggests that some men of Akavir survive in Rimmen. Though now (as the first PGE is old) they may have diluted blood rather than pure unmixed blood.

Meh technicalities technicalities, hehe so any explanation as to how the general of the akaviri army has legs and is tsaesci or should i pass it off as an unlikely group of unlikely akaviri men and women formed an unlikely army and fought in pale pass.

More like the devs not having the time/money to waste making a new race to use for one quest, but still deciding to do the quest anyways with some sacrifices. They should be vampire snakemen, really.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:47 am

Bah. Why is everyone so interested in the Tsaesci?

It's as if no one cares at all to speculate about the Ka Po' Tun, a much more interesting race as far as I'm concerned.

Even a little interest in the Kemal or Tang' Mo would be appreciated, but jeez, as soon as someone links the words vampire, snake, and men together, people go into an uncontrolled lore-induced ecstasy... :shakehead:

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:45 am

Bah. Why is everyone so interested in the Tsaesci?

It's as if no one cares at all to speculate about the Ka Po' Tun, a much more interesting race as far as I'm concerned.

Even a little interest in the Kemal or Tang' Mo would be appreciated, but jeez, as soon as someone links the words vampire, snake, and men together, people go into an uncontrolled lore-induced ecstasy... :shakehead:

There's more lore on them. Besides, we already have cat-men on Tamriel, why would we need more?

Likewise, Kemal and Tang-Mo have like, no lore on 'em...

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:11 am

There's more lore on them. Besides, we already have cat-men on Tamriel, why would we need more?

Likewise, Kemal and Tang-Mo have like, no lore on 'em...

Yes, but these are shape-shifting cat-men. They all have a latent ability to turn into dragons. Can Khajiit do that? No. So Khajiit are kittens compared to the Tigers found in Akavir.

But as for no lore, I smell another job opportunity for MK....

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:48 pm

Yes, but these are shape-shifting cat-men. They all have a latent ability to turn into dragons.

Sorry, but that's nonsense. I know who made it up though, but I will not go into criticism of fan lore.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:41 pm

Yes, but these are shape-shifting cat-men. They all have a latent ability to turn into dragons. Can Khajiit do that? No. So Khajiit are kittens compared to the Tigers found in Akavir.
But as for no lore, I smell another job opportunity for MK....

That's because the Khajiit choose to chase dragons instead of becoming them.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:53 pm

Yes, but these are shape-shifting cat-men. They all have a latent ability to turn into dragons. Can Khajiit do that? No. So Khajiit are kittens compared to the Tigers found in Akavir.

No. Not even Tosh Raka can do that, because he doesn't exist.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:47 pm

Yes, but these are shape-shifting cat-men. They all have a latent ability to turn into dragons. Can Khajiit do that? No. So Khajiit are kittens compared to the Tigers found in Akavir.
But as for no lore, I smell another job opportunity for MK....

Ka Po' Tun wish they could become Dragons.

Khajiit shapeshift more than Ka Po' Tun do. Lunar lattice, baby. B)

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:08 pm

Ka Po' Tun wish they could become Dragons.

Khajiit shapeshift more than Ka Po' Tun do. Lunar lattice, baby. B)

When did that change? I have a habit of taking the occasional two-month break from looking at this part of the forums. When was that notion dispelled?

If it isn't true, than so be it. But I apparently missed out on this change.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:19 pm

When did that change? I have a habit of taking the occasional two-month break from looking at this part of the forums. When was that notion dispelled?

If it isn't true, than so be it. But I apparently missed out on this change.

Ka Po' tun have always wished to become Dragons. Only Tosh Raka even succeeded. But, apparently, he does not exist, so ask Rayadrel as I'm not sure as to why this has been concluded only now.

But your average Ka Po' Tun has always been a tiger who wished to be a dragon.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:04 am

Ka Po' tun have always wished to become Dragons. Only Tosh Raka even succeeded. But, apparently, he does not exist, so ask Rayadrel as I'm not sure as to why this has been concluded only now.

But your average Ka Po' Tun has always been a tiger who wished to be a dragon.

Hm. I'm running on basis of information I got from a book in Daggerfall and another in Morrowind. If I can recall the names, or can find them, I'l put that up, but they stated along the lines that 'all Tigers have the ability to become dragon, but only Tosh Raka has succeeded in doing so.'

@ Rayadrel---But apparently he doesn't exist? Now that's something I've never heard of before....