how did they live and are the alyid like the dwemer of morrowind

The only thing similar to the Dwemer that the Ayleids had is the fact that they "disappeared" in the same era as the Dwarves.

Except Ayleids didn't transcend into Numidium's frame; they just got driven out by their former slaves and assimilated into Valenwood.

so bosmers are of alyid decent?

Some. There are a few that remained in Cyrodiil and became "wild elves". The rest were slaughtered by the Monkey Prophet Marukh's zealot horde (OMG http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2080/protosszealot7374669rg6.gif). There was a time where some Ayleid kingdoms were vassals of the Alessian empire, but that went out the window when Marukh started manipulating things.

...and disappeared; we don't see them anymore.

Note I put "disappeared" in quotes.

.....but you didn't disappeared in quotes..?
^_^

i just noticed i spelled alyid wrong did anyone else notice that

yes <_<

how they lived? primarily a plantation economy and a loose system of city-states. slavery is prominent, daedra worship prevalent. light, the starts, and the sky were major motives in their religion and culture, and they seemed to value learning. hope that helps.

And you still spelled it wrong in this post. Did you notice that?

A bunch of elves in loincloths wearing star-beads and feathers.

And building more stuff than a million little humans could.

Of course, the humans didn't have loincloths so they were covering up their privies all the time and didn't get anything done.

/Faux Puritanism



Sans le culte le Daedra, Dame N.

....Using human slaves to do the building. Ayleids built little, their manslaves in all likelyhood did the building. And the slaves in all likelyhood were ground down to nubbins in the process, given the Ayleids' track record with slaves.

The Ayleids were the epitome of elven hubris, and they got what they had coming to them.

No, I agree, there was Daedra worship. The Ayleids had struck a pact with Meridia, and wore armor similar in appearance to that of her Aurorans. Daedra worship wasn't the dominant religion in the Ayleid lands, but it was definitely there.

Alliances and imitation of great beings do not qualify as worship. It may have been present, but counter to their philosophy and spiritual beliefs. 'Magic from the sky', not Oblivion. They're not about to worship those who 'bring Sithis into every quarter.'

That's practically what Daedra worship is; making deals and pacts with them and paying homage to their image. There isn't much other information on their practices, but all we have of them are some stones, ruins, legends, and armor. Not to mention that the Aurorans wielded Ayleid weapons. Although most Ayleids probably didn't worship Daedra, some of them almost certainly did. And it's complicated further when it is noted that the Ayleid culture was not united; there were opposing city-states, and some may have had different religious beliefs than others.

In addition, the Nine are based on the religions of the Ayleids. (ref: Shezarr and the Divines) We wouldn't have had that Dragon Broke if it weren't so.

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Daedra worship is the stuff done in Morrowind, everything else qualifies as extraterrestrial trade or cult worship. There are no indications of the latter by the Ayleids.

All the city states show a uniform architecture and designs. A fair indicator their culture was rather homogenized.

We have almost no information on Ayeid worship practices, aside from some books. And it's not like Morrowind didn't have an abundance of worshippers of Molag Bal, Mehrunes Dagon, Malacath, and Sheogorath, despite being taboo in their culture. However, Umaril's connection with Meridia and the armor and weapon similiarities suggests that there was some Daedra worship going on. But I never denied that the Imperial pantheon was derived largely from the Ayleid pantheon.

However, it should be pointed out that the Eight empowered the Crusader's Relics, which were made to allow him to face Umaril, so Umaril probably wasn't on too good of terms with the Eight.

As for their culture, it was Herminia Cinna who said this:

My own research into the Late Ayleid Period suggests that there was not a single Ayleid ruler, but many. They were a bitterly divided people, with many warlords vying against each other for power. Their ultimate demise was wrought by their own civil strife at least as much as by the rebellion of their human slaves.

She also wrote http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/last_king_ayleids.shtml, which better explains the lack of unity among the Ayleids.

The Chimer were worshiping the House of Troubles before the Tribunal told them not too. Not The Ayleid were the Heart Land High Elves. They never went through a radical phase where they started to worship the Daedra instead of their Aedra.

A culture of hostile city states does not automatically suggest that people have different religions. Might as well drag out High Rock before the warp in the West, bitterly divided with many warlords vying against each other for power. Each having a summoning chamber in their palace, yet all worshiped the Aedra. Not that different from the Greek city states actually.

Umaril is as much a Daedra worshiper as Mankar Camoran or Jager Tharn. They're co-conspirators, trading partners, allies but there is no veneration, no worship, no suppliance.

That does not mean there were no Ayleid who worshipped the Daedra but the Ayleid as a people did not worship the Daedra.

We don't know the degree of division of the city-states. But they had no unified Empire with a unified religion presiding over them like with High Rock.

As for Mankar Camoran, Jagar Tharn, and probably Umaril, they probably worshipped their Daedra lord before becoming partners with them.

At the same time, I never said that they as a people worshipped the Daedra.

High Rock shared the same gods before the Empire was there. There was after all a considerable Aldmeri influence on those half-elves. I shouldn't have to point that out though.

While you never said that the Ayleid as a people worshipped the Daedra, you've been talking about whole city states, large amount of people. That makes them a people who worship the Daedra.

I'm actually with Proweler here

Forgive me if I'm not convinced, but this doesn't prove that there wasn't any Daedra worship when their armor was modeled after Daedra and the Daedra themselves use Ayleid weapons and their leader bound himself to a Daedra Prince. And we have no information regarding the differences between the city-states, because this isn't High Rock.

What are you talking about with their armor and weapons? Daedra are birds now?!?

I was referring to Aurorans. Note that Elven armor bears some resemblance to their armor, particularly the boots. And the fact that Aurorans wield Ayleid weaponry.