So the animations are going to be terrible again? Boo. : V - Skyrim

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:03 pm

No.

Even if I could, it's not like a keyboard is going to chop off my fingers if I don't focus on it.

It's not like that wheel could chop off his fingers too... he was barely sharpening his axe. I don't see any reason why he has to focus on it so much...

Don't know about you... but I can blind-type, and I'm sure you (for a man that has occupied with smithing most of his life - referring to the NPC) that he's not looking at that sharpening wheel. It's unnecessary, it's not difficult, it's not dangerous, he's experienced, he's bored, and it will not chop of his fingers...

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:15 am

TC, you're never going to get perfect life-like animations. Not in 2011 at least.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:09 pm

L4d 2 has some pretty bad animations, the tank picking up the cement to throw, pulling people up off of ledges very often has arms/legs clipping. Not overall bad animations, but there are areas that need improvement. Dragon-age origins suffers from the same clipping problems, but you are going to find those in all games, there are tons of invisible walls and the animations for being hit off of your feet are no good at all, there is no collision detection when being hit into objects. Overall not bad, but many problems. The witcher 2 has like the same exact problems that Skyrim does, lol except for that sliding bit looks pretty bad. Bf3 I haven't really seen enough gamepley to judge but it does look amazing.

I'm not questioning that these games are good animation wise, but I wouldn't say they are far and above vastly superior. BF3 looks nice though.

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» Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:36 am

I can agree with the OP. THe animations are fine, but not overkill. Its good for a open-ended rpg, but for the rest of the games, not so. Dragon Age:Origins wich is 2 years hold, had almost as smooth animations as Skyrim has now.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:50 pm

The animations weren't terrible.....and They weren't even close to Oblivion/FO3 level.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:27 am

I have no idea what your talking about. I thought they looked great. Especially when compared to FO3 + Oblivion.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:47 am

It's not like that wheel could chop off his fingers too... he was barely sharpening his axe. I don't see any reason why he has to focus on it so much...

Don't know about you... but I can blind-type, and I'm sure you (for a man that has occupied with smithing most of his life - referring to the NPC) that he's not looking at that sharpening wheel. It's unnecessary, it's not difficult, it's not dangerous, he's experienced, he's bored, and it will not chop of his fingers...

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» Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:26 am

Battlefield 3 has the best animations so far and they still don't look totally real. Gamers are experiencing "Next-gen" withdrawal symptoms. They subconsiously believe next-gen is here, but in reality, it won't be until 2014.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:16 pm

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» Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:02 am

I can agree with the OP. THe animations are fine, but not overkill. Its good for a open-ended rpg, but for the rest of the games, not so. Dragon Age:Origins wich is 2 years hold, had almost as smooth animations as Skyrim has now.

DA:O had average animations in my opinion... Skyrim takes DA:O any time. Plus, DA:O works on point and click, which you can't really compare to a game with Skyrim's mechanics regarding combat and such (the only thing you CAN compare is the walking/running animations).

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:00 am

Battlefield 3 has the best animations so far and they still don't look totally real. Gamers are experiencing "Next-gen" withdrawal symptoms. They subconsiously believe next-gen is here, but in reality, it won't be until 2014.

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» Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:51 am

It's not like that wheel could chop off his fingers too... he was barely sharpening his axe. I don't see any reason why he has to focus on it so much...

Don't know about you... but I can blind-type, and I'm sure you (for a man that has occupied with smithing most of his life - referring to the NPC) that he's not looking at that sharpening wheel. It's unnecessary, it's not difficult, it's not dangerous, he's experienced, he's bored, and it will not chop of his fingers...

Agree with this completely.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:42 pm

It's not like that wheel could chop off his fingers too... he was barely sharpening his axe. I don't see any reason why he has to focus on it so much...

Don't know about you... but I can blind-type, and I'm sure you (for a man that has occupied with smithing most of his life - referring to the NPC) that he's not looking at that sharpening wheel. It's unnecessary, it's not difficult, it's not dangerous, he's experienced, he's bored, and it will not chop of his fingers...

The problem is, he doesn't took at what he's doing at all. He just stares into your characters face for the whole conversation. It's no better than Oblivion's dialogue.

I have no idea what your talking about. I thought they looked great. Especially when compared to FO3 + Oblivion.

There were many examples of jerky transitions and sliding throughout the Quakecon demo... and it was only 30 minutes long. Games like Red Dead Redemption and BFBC2 are leagues ahead of Bethesda's weak attempts at smooth animation.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:19 am

iD have animations all sussed. Yeah, but no need to share any knowledge or anything... -___-

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:00 am

There were many examples of jerky transitions and sliding throughout the Quakecon demo... and it was only 30 minutes long. Games like Red Dead Redemption and BFBC2 are leagues ahead of Bethesda's weak attempts at smooth animation.

Don't get me wrong, Red Dead Redemption is one of my most favorite games, but the animations were the most glitchy thing in the whole game. People sliding, and just magically appearing when activating cannons. I've played it for countless hours, and there were many instances where things just didn't look right.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:59 am

The problem is, he doesn't took at what he's doing at all. He just stares into your characters face for the whole conversation. It's no better than Oblivion's dialogue.

besides the fact that its in real time, and everything doesn't stop, and no massive zoom in?

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:54 pm

I wish they'd improve side to side movement and make you only move full speed when facing forward. Plenty of games both old and new still have better movement. It's an improvement over Oblivion for sure, but I'm still a little disappointed.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:35 pm

There were many examples of jerky transitions and sliding throughout the Quakecon demo... and it was only 30 minutes long. Games like Red Dead Redemption and BFBC2 are leagues ahead of Bethesda's weak attempts at smooth animation.

RockStar and EA have loads of more cash to spend on animations.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:04 am

RockStar and EA have loads of more cash to spend on animations.

This.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:07 pm

DA:O had average animations in my opinion... Skyrim takes DA:O any time. Plus, DA:O works on point and click, which you can't really compare to a game with Skyrim's mechanics regarding combat and such (the only thing you CAN compare is the walking/running animations).

I think (s)he meant the animations in dialogue, if so I agree with him. The facial and body animations in dialogue were smooth and believable. Also very life-like.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:48 am

I still love how when we see them show off the animations, they never jump.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:14 am

The animations are good for BGS.

They're pretty bad when you compare them to RAGE.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:56 pm

The problem is, he doesn't took at what he's doing at all. He just stares into your characters face for the whole conversation. It's no better than Oblivion's dialogue.

No better than Oblivion's? No lock in zoom already makes it better let alone the fact that you can do whatever while engaged in dialogue and even walk away if you want.

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:19 pm

How bout we all stop talking and DANCE :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :rock: instead
No? oh ok...

» Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:02 am

How bout we all stop talking and DANCE :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :rock: instead
No? oh ok...

You really do like to dance don't you? :biggrin:
For you I'll place a little dance when I get Skyrim on release ^_^

OT: I forgive them for the animations...
1: It's a big game, open world, lot's can happen... you can't control everything.
2: More important is the fact that it's an alpha build... They need to go trough a couple of stages before they go gold.