You N'wah

Yes, really. Just another cycle of violence on a troubled world.

Yes, really.

Well that was a fun discussion.

You are right that it doesn't belong in the TES 3 section, but you and many others are wrong that it belongs in the Skyrim section. This thread definitely should be moved to the lurk lore section, which seems to be often largely neglected. There are more sections then just the ones for Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim, everyone please realise this.

We Nords show the Dunmer sympathy in our time of dysfunction for only one reason. We need more meat sacks to fill body bags with on the front likes of our civil war. Also those body bags are made of Argonian skins.

Maybe that's the next novel. That would be a great read!

This just in! Sliced bread.

I'd like to see how you manage an army when half your country explodes when a floating ministry goes "LOL, ZOMG PEW PEW INTO TEH MOUNTAIN!!" and boom.

Oh hush. The nords were part of the those that caused the dunmer's destruction to happen.

Loss of Tribunal --> Nords, with orc mercs, attack Redoran strongholds on the east (like they do every year) --> Oblivion Crisis --> Red Year --> Argonian invasion --> dunmer expulsion of Morrowind.

And it was only mentioned that the nords of Solstheim, not Skyrim, will be very charitable to the dunmer.

The Beast Races shall reign supreme in Tamriel!

Wait......are Argonians even in Skyrim? like as a playable race

WHAT?!

Seems the Nerevarine needs to come back and kick some [censored]. Wouldnt mind the next game being set on the mainland Morrowind fighting the Argonians (jumped up slaves).

More civil? Yeah right, after the Argonians have occupied MW the Dark Elves will feel put upon and probably require an Argonian slave once they regain power.

All ten of the races that have appeared in previous games, including Argonians, are in Skyrim.

It does seem to suggest that those trapped in the mines would eventually build a culture down there, but that might not have happened yet. Imagine your entire civilisation being underground for nearly two centuries.


All 12 of them.

Personally I wonder what happened to the Telvanni. They would have to get hit by the eruption pretty badly to lose to the argonians.

But this wasn't the Landfall we were looking for. THE FUTURE HAS BEEN CHANGED!!!

Unless that was a mind trick.

I thought at the time they were Hist-zombies?


Doubtful. Dunmer society is / was built on some pretty certain values, leading to the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dunmer of them being, "proud, ruthless, and cruel" with a "vengeful nature". The eye for an eye mentality can only serve to stir up racial tensions further and make them even more jaded and bitter (as if that was possible). I can imagine the Dunmer will embark on a bloody - and potentially futile - crusade to reclaim the homeland when they believe they're capable of it. As Hellmouth mentioned, see low birth rate.


I wonder how the Telvanni of the far east are doing? Telvenni holdings stretch further to the north than Vivec, which is where you said the Argonians got to. Plus the more http://images.uesp.net//f/ff/Racemap05S-Morrowind.jpg (the island to the north-east specifically) Telvanni territories were just as / at least as far away from Red Mountain and Vivec as Solstheim. Plus the more sheltered areas, such as that island (no idea what exactly that is though) would be sheltered by other landmasses from any tsunamis or whatever kicked up from the inner sea.


They didn't during the Velothi exodus either. I'm sure a certain three Daedra Princes will be more than happy to step in and fill the ecclesiastic power-void.

Also, maybe the Landfall was their caverns collapsing on them?

I feel the dunmer would be too jaded to worship the daedra again. After all, the daedra did greatly weaken Morrowind in the Oblivion Crisis, with no one to help them.

You're probably right there. I think the whole situation could be a volatile turning-point for the faith / souls of the Dunmer people. A good prophet (a new age Veloth) could turn them back to the Daedra - who were separated from the 'Bad Daedra', like the ones who attacked them for a reason. If left to their own devices they could end up as god-hating cynics, I guess. Interesting dynamic, to me at least. I'd like to see if there are Dunmer trying to establish a new Anticipation-worshiping Temple in Skyrim or Solstheim, come TES V.

Still, I wonder if as Anticipaitons of the Tribunal, the Daedra would take some of the PR stick for the living gods doing squat as the Dunmer got pasted?

As far as Dunmer society goes, yeah the slavery sympathizers and slavers deserved it. I'm sure not every Dunmer thinks like that though.

One thing I keep seeing people say is that Morrowind is a wasteland though. Morrowind was a wasteland almost two centuries before Skyrim. It wouldn't make sense for it to still be a wasteland by the time of Skyrim.

Vvardenfel was a wasteland, but an inhabitable Wasteland with exotic flora and fauna not found on the mainland, Southern morrowind belongs to the Argonians, what about western morrowind and Telvanni Northeast?

I think the northeast was Tsunami'd Bao Duur and Red mountain Combo is a feat not easily brushed off. western morrowind had to have some enclaves untouched by the blast. and its been 200 years they had to have made some kind of rebound, yes 40 yrs after Red Mountain the seas were boiling, but 200 is more than enough time

IIRC they went east. Not sure where to, but y'know.

Don't worry, House Telvanni are surely alright.

Telvanni might be very powerful, however they're very isolationist and tend to never look out of a window.