I cant get into the undercroft i understand the key pickpocketed doesnt work ive waited for like 5 days ingame and it still wont unlock. please help.

Why can't you get into the Undercroft? It doesn't require a key to unlock.

The door is locked and it says "This lock can't be picked. You need a key"

And its starting to get to me i just killed everyone in the chapel and a few guards

Did you steal the key before waiting 24 hours? Apparently that's a known bug. I'd suggest reloading a save before that time. If you're on the PC, you can open the command console by clicking the ~ key, then click on the door to select it, then type in "unlock" and it'll unlock.

i thought i had waited long enough i even overcompensated to make sure. and no i wish i was playing on the computer. i have the pc version but for some reason i cant get the cheat menu to open on my laptop. on any other computer ive loaded it on its worked which kinda upsets me.

Honestly, I don't remember stealing a key for this quest at all, I thought you could just pick the lock. Regardless, it emphasizes that you should wait 24 hours BEFORE stealing the key and then it should unlock.

Have you gone into the oblivion.ini file and made sure the "bAllowConsole" line is set to 1?

i think i may be screwed and have to completly restart i dont have a save i can back up to

heh this svcks i spent so much time lvling my sneak lvl to 100

That's why you should always make multiple save files, not just for Oblivion, but for pretty much every game.

heh wow i figured out the probelm

What was it? Future visitors might be having the same problem and that information could be helpful.

apparently i didnt technichally "flee" the city because it was daylight the other guy after francios didnt chase me out of the city so i never left chorrol

At least you didn't have to redo anything! Now make sure to make multiple saves just in case.

hah ya i will

I done that once. Ran around Charrol after the fake murder. Looked back after a couple of laps. Swords flying everywhere.

I just did this quest for the first time. When I went in to save Francois he was standing next to the bed, and I had the ability to initiate conversation with him, but he didn't talk and I couldn't administer the antedote. Then, I waited for the full 24 hours, and he was lying down, and it worked. Weird!!

First, make sure you've gotten Quest Log #40. If not, then you've done something wrong or it's a glitch.

#40
"I have fled Chorrol, and Hides-His-Heart has not been killed. I must now wait a day, so Motierre can be discovered and placed in the Chorrol Chapel Undercroft. There, I must find Motierre and administer the antidote that will revive him."

Also, if you killed Hides-His-Heart you've failed. That may be a reason why you can't enter.

Or it may just be the simple door glitch. The command "unlock" should do the trick.