Is there any way of saying these in an Elder Scrolls way:

President
Vice-President
Prime Minister
Minister of _______

president = emperor (but not elected)
high chancelor = vice president
prime minister = same as president ?
minister of _____ = would probably be the guild leaders

no, quite literally, if cyrodiil had a democratic system of elections, presidential campaigns, vote ballots etc, what would they be called?

The proper place to ask these questions is in the Lore forum. They know more about Elder Scrolls lore there than Bethesda does.

if cryodill had elections... it wouldent be an "empire"

ignoreing that fact and imagining cryodill was a country (or the entire empire of tamriel) that was democratic, i imagine it would work much like real world countires *shrugs* or if your a history major, how it worked when democracy was born in rome/greece (i'm not a history buff ^.^; )

...and where's this forum?

Just go to the forums page and click on the 'Elder Scrolls Lore' forum.

yuh democracy a red revolution and a communistic system, there is where it starts ... akaviri might be the opposite a capitilistic system, and the next elder's game is based about a cold war scenario ... eventually the sload nuke a atombomb on the capital cities of cyrodill and akaviri and take over the world, and than the dwemer are coming from there spaceships and blowing up the big deal ...

lol

I can imagine the empire becoming a republic with the High Chancellor taking over the emperor's duties. So High Chancellor would be the equivalent of a USA style president.

Um?

No democracy.

Only empire, theocracy and walking trees.

Darn! I thought for sure that TES V would have voting booths.

Forgive me for being a fuddy duddy--- but, doesn't much of the empires authority and power come from its form of governance being a divine theater of the way things work in the fractured conciousness of the godhead?

Wouldnt the very concept of a democracy be .... poisonous... to the elderscrolls universe?

Thats not exactly correct. A nation is considered an 'empire' when one group of people rules many other groups of people. It has nothing to do with the system of government (example: The British Empire - Ruled by Parlhymant with elected officials) (The Roman Empire - Even in its republic days was an empire).

sorry, had to nit pick there



It would be no different than the Liberal Revolution in our time when Democratic ideals started sparking revolts in absolutionist countries like Prussia and Austria.

You dont understand the mythotecture of the mundus very well do you......


A simple change in cultural belief is enough to transform an entire culture into a totally different species on Mundus.

A change like democracy would have....... far reaching.... consequences.

The British calling themselves an empire was just a bunch of Brits stroking thier epeens cause they can pwn noobs in teh Asias

well, SE asia, but W/E

Considering the definition of empire at the very least incorporates "pwning noobs in other countries", they'd be ego-strokers who were right.

Considering the Cyrodiilic Empire is an autocracy, at least for now, I would find it hard to believe that it would become a democracy anytime soon. Although maybe Chancellor Ocato will become a Communist...that seems more likely

But I'm not sure exactly why you're asking what the Tamrielic leaders would be called if it was democracy, because it would be the Devs who could call them anything from Prime Minister, President, High Chancellor, Warlord, Pharoah whatever. But Tamriel will, I think, never turn democratic because of how much it would change everything..and I mean everything!

As already stated yes you could say that some high goverment people have those statuses but with another name.

I'd say a Parliamentary system would work best for the Empire. The system already somewhat resembles what has existed in history. There's a king and a parliament (Elder Council), and they have checks and balances against each other. This has proven to be a very useful but unnecessary system, as the Septim family has been a great ruling line.

The problem would be running it as a true Democracy and not a Democratic Republic (like the USA). While the USA's system was efficient for communication when created, current communication capabilities render the electoral college useless.
Thus we come to a decision on the setup. One idea is to have an open place for people to discuss issues and vote on them. The results are then taken to the Imperial City.
Heck, the Black Horse Courier could take care of that!

Communication shouldn't be too big a problem for Cyrodiil's cities, especially if the Mage's Guild helps with it. The other provinces, though, might have to settle for an elected representation, governors and whatnot.

The problem with your argumentation is: The Elder Council is (and never was) an elected "body" of government. In a plain sentence: "The people" never had a say in who was in said council. A position in that council was determined in most cases either by birth or political or economic influence (or all three together). Besides, as some others already mentioned: THE EMPEROR (please note the capitals) is not just a political ruler, he also has (or had) a metaphysical role few can step up to. Not even the High Chancellor.

Well, when we abolished the monarchy, the leader was called "Lord Protector".


And America, and Australia, and Africa. To be honest, when you rule over a third of the world, you have the right to call yourselves an empire. We didn't need to "stroke our epeens" when there was no one else who could defeat us.

It was an empire, as Victoria was Empress of India. If not in name, then certainly in characteristic.

Aye, not now, but they could be. If a champion can do all the stuff that saved the world from Oblivion, changing the form of government shouldn't be too difficult.